Friday, January 22, 2010

Following Gordon

There an unintentionally hilarious feature in this week's New Statesman in which they ask leading Labour luvvies to speculate on who should succeed Gordon Brown as Labour leader. The likes of Melvyn Bragg, Greg Dyke, Ken Loach, Bob Crow et al discuss the respective merits of messers Harman, Milband (twice), Balls, Cruddas and Purnell. All except the Prime Minister's pet pooch, Charlie Whelan...
There's going to be no leadership election because we're going to win the election and Gordon Brown's going to be leader.


However, the plot thickens. If we are to believe James Macintyre, Gordon intends to stay on as Labour leader even if he loses. ROFL. Sunder Katwala thinks this is a rather good idea on the basis that you should take at least six months to choose your new leader if you go into Opposition. Actually, I think he has a point. Labour does indeed need to take time over the choice of its next leader and have a full and frank debate about the direction of the party. Assuming, of course that bankruptcy doesn't intervene in the meantime.


Cllr Peter cairns (SNP) said...

Please No....

We've already had rumours of a defeated Jim Murphy heading for Holyrood please not Brown too.....

Archbishop Cranmer said...

Bob Crow is hardly a 'luvvie' ;o)

Mark M said...

Wow, Charlie Whelan is completely deluded. Even if Labour do win the election he really thinks Gordon will keep going.

The only reason he's still in is because Labour MPs don't want to lose their seats in the immediate election that would follow replacing him now. My bet is Gordon would be gone within 6 months of a Labour victory.

Will.Grace said...

I have already said, he stays until confrence and then steps down because of health reasons.

I have a theroy....

During the questioning over Iraq, Gordo will break down, crying, it was the hardest thing he ever did in his life, its put him on drugs for depression. Oh Woh is Gordo. It will be a play for the public to feel for him.

How do you think it will go down?

Northampton Saint said...

Thats exactly what Micheal Howard did, and the internal debate did the conservatives good. Might not be a good idea if theres a hung parliament though, and the chance of a second election.

Max Atkinson said...

Thanks for directing us to this fascinating article - in which I was surprised to see that only one of them even mentioned my top tip, Andy Burnham -

But maybe I've got it wrong too!

Anonymous said...

There will be no leadership campaign and election for Labour will disintegrate into various factions of left and lefter still after what will be their worst defeat ever in a general election as voters wreak revenge for 13 wasted years of Labour mis-rule by Brown and Blair.

Anonymous said...

Labour will not dissolve - it will be hard for them to point blame because they all signed Browns nomination papers and all allowed themselves to be bullied by him as chancellor.

The next leader will be Ed Milliband.

But lets win the election first.

The Telegraph and the Barclay Bros seem determined to do all they can to ensure a labour victory and I have long since stopped buying their paper edition (tabloidisation of expenses story was the last straw).

I shall stop reading it on line soon if they keep allowing Martin Salter a platform for his partisan bigotry. Still he is not as bigoted as Heffer i suppose.

Victor, NW Kent said...

Bob Crow is not even a member of the Labour Party.

But when all the squawking and shoving is over I am tipping Liam Byrne - a smooze operator who knows where the bodies are buried.

Allan said...

As Northampton Saint pointed out, thats exactly what Michael Howard did (and that's what Major and Hague didn't do). Blair was also elected some time after an election too (abeit in dificult circumstances).

However didn't quite work out when Jim Calaghan left the Labour leadership 18 months after losing office.

The Purpleline said...

Rumour-Rumour Brown is going to call an election end of next week for March!!! Good source.

Designed to ensure a no show at the Iraq inquiry and to put Tories off the scent. Allows Darling not to make a Budget, which will be negative. Also he wants to scupper a pre election investigation into his slush fund, in negotiations with Mr Lyon to hold investigation until after election, Lyon agrees if election called next week. Reason he has not made a comment on the subject, even after official complaints made.

Unknown said...

Despite your sneering it's actually a good article and quite pertinent.

Assuming the Conservatives win the GE then there's every chance that they will only be in control for a single term. The boom time is over and we face several years of austerity as the country reduces its debt. Whoever is in charge will be blamed for this and Labour in opposition will capitalise on the unhappiness of the masses and gather support by harking back to the good old days, and promising 'jam tomorrow' under a future Labour government. The Tories will become deeply unpopular as they administer the necessary economic medicine to the country, especially as the masses will not believe that the multi-millionaires in the Cabinet are really feeling their pain. (Not to mention the constant negativity generated by the drip, drip, drip of British deaths in Afghanistan in a hugely expensive war. This won't end with a positive outcome.)

I also think that there is still enormous cynicism about politicians triggered by the allowances and expenses revelations, this will surface again during the General Election and will be another damaging factor for the new administration. I bet Labour are glad they won't be running the country come June.

Tom said...

They could do worse than ask Iain Dale to lead them. That would be one way of getting into Parliament! :-)

True Belle said...

Does anyone remember the 'CAINE MUTINY' with Humph. Bogart--

Captain Queeg remind you of anyone?
Whittaker: Mr. Maryk, Mr. Kieth. The captain wants a meeting with all officers, right away.
Lt. Maryk: Now? At one o'clock in the morning?
Whittaker: Yes, sir.
Lt. Maryk: Do you know what it's about?
Whittaker: Yes, sir - strawberries.

Lt. Barney Greenwald: Doctor. You have testified that the following symptoms exist in Lieutenant-Commander Queeg's behavior. Rigidity of personality, feelings of persecution, unreasonable suspicion, a mania for perfection, and a neurotic certainty that he is always in the right. Doctor isn't there one psychiatric term for this illness?

True Belle said...

(Carrying on from previous post)

Doctor Dickson: I never said there was any illness.

Lt. Barney Greenwald: Now you're learning, Willie. You don't support your captain because you like him; you support him because he's got the job or you're no good!

Lt. Steve Maryk: Will you take our case?
Lt. Barney Greenwald: I'd much rather prosecute.
Lt. Steve Maryk: [disappointed] Well, I guess I can't blame you.
Lt. Barney Greenwald: [in a more friendly tone] I'll take your case.

Court-Martial Board Member: Proceed carefully, Mr. Greenwald. You are questioning the reputation of a long serving officer in the United States Navy.
Lt. Barney Greenwald: It is not my intention to question the courage of Lt. Commander Queeg. No man who is a coward rises to the command of a naval warship. The question is rather if Commander Queeg showed the judgement suited for command at that specific time and if Lt. Maryk was justified in relieving him.

Ens. Willis 'Willie' Seward Keith: How do we plead?
Barney Greenwald: Your case depends on Maryk.
Lt. Steve Maryk: Well then how do I plead?
Barney Greenwald: [oozing sarcasm] Not guilty, of course. You're a great naval hero!

True Belle said...

[Discussing Captain Queeg's sanity]
Lieutenant Tom Keefer: Will you look at the man? He's a Freudian delight; he crawls with clues!

I did not suggest any thing, but coincidentally I met an ex banker ( from Chancellor Browns days)yesterday, who did!

Anonymous said...

"Take at least 6 months to select a new leader"

You mean "dither"?

psychotrader said...

I hope he stay for ever, that way Labour will finally die once and for all.