Tuesday, September 23, 2008

Gordon Brown Speech Open Thread

Your comments please...

2.35 Nothing new so far, no mea culpa, lots about being serious, a sentence about not using his children as props, which by even mentioning them he just did.

2.40 The list of announcements starts with a commitment to an 80 per cent cut.

Wants to help families through difficult times. What about those not classed as 'families'.

2.43 Incredibly weak Harry Potter joke.

2.47 Describes the NHS as "Labour's NHS"!

2.52 Getting applause after every couple of sentences. Very reminiscent of IDS in 2003.

2.53 Wants to put children first. As opposed to putting them second.

2.55 Promises complete elimination of child poverty by 2020. He must know this is an impossible pledge to keep.

2.56 This is a speech which ticks boxes, but doesn't inspire.

2.59 Here he goes with the personal stuff.

3.00 From April free health check ups for over 40s.

3.02 Abolishing prescription charges for cancer patients.

3.06 Lots of announcements, but where the vision? Where's the plan?

3.08 This is a budget speech, not a conference speech.

3.09 Bear in mind I am listening to this sitting in a service station on the M6. It may come across differently on TV.

3.17 Not sure how much more of this bollocks I can listen to. Apparently all the nation's ills are the fault of the Conservative Party ... who haven't been in power for eleven years.

3.18 Whenever he talks about how much he loves this country he sounds so incredibly false.

3.20 Oh, 55 minutes in, he finally mentions the armed forces. In one throwaway sentence. Disgusting.

3.21 Sorry, I now understand why George Osborne says he hates Gordon Brown. I can't stand listening to him any longer. I am going to get back on the M6 and switch over to Steve Wright on Radio 2. He talks more sense.

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Anonymous said...

The media are still telling us the speech was great and has saved Gordon, yet they don't dare show any clips of it, it was so dire!

From The Vol Abroad:
http://thevolabroad.blogspot.com/

Gordon Brown is going down

Gordon Brown, the British Prime Minister, is enjoying personal approval ratings that would make George Bush snicker with comparative glee. I'd bet a higher percentage of the UK population has the clap than think Gordo is doing a good job.

In British political life, you don't wait every four years to have a convention. No, they have one every year. I guess that's the benefit of having a small country. All the big parties do it. And the leader of the party has to give a big speech, and one of those leaders will be the Prime Minister.

And you know what, they don't broadcast the speeches prime time. Mostly because the speeches aren't given in prime time. They happen in the day. Sure, you can catch it on tv, but it interrupts a cookery show or some show where you go through your house and sell off your valuable goods to finance a trip the Gran Canaria or some such. And frankly, most people are at work while these are going on.

Like me. I was at work when Gordon Brown gave his big headline speech today. This was the speech that was supposed to save his political career. This was make or break time. Pundits were saying that he needed to have "an Obama moment" to turn around his political fate.

On tv tonight, many of those pundits were reporting that he'd done it. Or at least, that he'd given a great speech. The speech of his life, blah, blah, blah. And then they'd interview some Labour party goon, some former press under-secretary in the Blair government, or some Broonite loyalist and they said "Wow, what a great speech. He showed what a leader he was." Blah, blah, blah.

Several channels flipped through and all we could hear were people talking about how great his speech was and offering insight. But no clips of the speech. "Show us some of the damn speech," said the Vol-in-Law. We wanted to bask in Gordon's brilliance, too.

Finally, the ViL had sense enough to turn to the Parliament channel. It's a little like I remember C-SPAN, except they rarely seem to show sub-committee meetings live. In fact, they always seem to have happened months in the past. Not sure what that's about. But they were showing Gordon Brown's speech just as we flipped to it. In fact, I think we caught most of it.

Obama moment, my arse. Barack Obama is an incredibly gifted public speaker. Even when he's talking shite it sounds pretty good. Gordon Brown, not so much. Not even close. Not even in the same solar system. Not even when Gordon Brown is talking sense.

But Gordon Brown wasn't talking sense. He made some sneering jabs at the Conservative Party. I'm not sure this is the time to do this. He made some sneering jabs at the "novices" who want to take over from him. He said some really lame stuff about the economy and how the Tories would end all regulation of the financial markets. Gordon Brown wanted to make us believe that he's the right man to handle the economic chaos, but instead he sounded like the pompous bloke at the pub who tries to make himself look smarter by distorting other people's points. And he did it not very well.

No wonder they couldn't show any clips of the speech. It would have showed just how full of it the political reporters are.

Anonymous said...

The media are still telling us the speech was great and has saved Gordon, yet they don't dare show any clips of it, it was so dire!

From The Vol Abroad:
http://thevolabroad.blogspot.com/

Gordon Brown is going down

Gordon Brown, the British Prime Minister, is enjoying personal approval ratings that would make George Bush snicker with comparative glee. I'd bet a higher percentage of the UK population has the clap than think Gordo is doing a good job.

In British political life, you don't wait every four years to have a convention. No, they have one every year. I guess that's the benefit of having a small country. All the big parties do it. And the leader of the party has to give a big speech, and one of those leaders will be the Prime Minister.

And you know what, they don't broadcast the speeches prime time. Mostly because the speeches aren't given in prime time. They happen in the day. Sure, you can catch it on tv, but it interrupts a cookery show or some show where you go through your house and sell off your valuable goods to finance a trip the Gran Canaria or some such. And frankly, most people are at work while these are going on.

Like me. I was at work when Gordon Brown gave his big headline speech today. This was the speech that was supposed to save his political career. This was make or break time. Pundits were saying that he needed to have "an Obama moment" to turn around his political fate.

On tv tonight, many of those pundits were reporting that he'd done it. Or at least, that he'd given a great speech. The speech of his life, blah, blah, blah. And then they'd interview some Labour party goon, some former press under-secretary in the Blair government, or some Broonite loyalist and they said "Wow, what a great speech. He showed what a leader he was." Blah, blah, blah.

Several channels flipped through and all we could hear were people talking about how great his speech was and offering insight. But no clips of the speech. "Show us some of the damn speech," said the Vol-in-Law. We wanted to bask in Gordon's brilliance, too.

Finally, the ViL had sense enough to turn to the Parliament channel. It's a little like I remember C-SPAN, except they rarely seem to show sub-committee meetings live. In fact, they always seem to have happened months in the past. Not sure what that's about. But they were showing Gordon Brown's speech just as we flipped to it. In fact, I think we caught most of it.

Obama moment, my arse. Barack Obama is an incredibly gifted public speaker. Even when he's talking shite it sounds pretty good. Gordon Brown, not so much. Not even close. Not even in the same solar system. Not even when Gordon Brown is talking sense.

But Gordon Brown wasn't talking sense. He made some sneering jabs at the Conservative Party. I'm not sure this is the time to do this. He made some sneering jabs at the "novices" who want to take over from him. He said some really lame stuff about the economy and how the Tories would end all regulation of the financial markets. Gordon Brown wanted to make us believe that he's the right man to handle the economic chaos, but instead he sounded like the pompous bloke at the pub who tries to make himself look smarter by distorting other people's points. And he did it not very well.

No wonder they couldn't show any clips of the speech. It would have showed just how full of it the political reporters are.

Twig said...

Anyone see Michael Crick on Newsnight:
(what a creep that Draper bloke is)

Play Place That Face
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/

Vote Best PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7605991.stm

Anonymous said...

Of course the speech worked.

The useless tories got better poll results only when nulab decided to commit suicide. Now you're all apoplectic because nulab has decided to stop committing suicide.

ha ha

You're all the same anyway.

Useless English-hating twats.

Lola said...

That Speech keeps going round in my head.

People say that he had to make his vision clear. Stangely I think that that is excatly what he did, unconsciously. he produced a list. A list of things he considers that he can make difference to. A list of things he can make a difference to by spending money on them. That money can only come from taxation. He will take money away from people and use it spend on them to make them do the things he listed. he will also take soem money away from you and spend it on other people whom he thinks deserve it.

His vision is simple. His vision is that he can spend your money better than you can. That's it. That's all it is. Period.

His vision takes no account of everyones ability, rich and poor alike, to spend their own money and manage their own resources best for them. It takes no account of the better well off, under the influence of nothing more than human compassion, of helping without question the less well off.


It is a very bleak vision if he condemns all mankind as incapable of controlling their own destinies unless he does it for them.

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