PM: Are you a politician or just a greedy little mercenary bastard?
BJ: You mean there's a contradiction interms there?
PM: Do you see yourself as a politician or a journalist?
BJ: Why do I have to choose?
PM: Do you think you will be Prime Minister one day?
BJ: It is highly unlikely.
PM: Thats' bollocks. Inside you, you think you can be, don't you? Why bother with it all otherwise?
BJ: Well look...we're all in a ...I think...listen, David Cameron is going to be an absolutely fantastic Prime Minister.
PM: I don't mean now, I mean one day. Is there any reason why you shouldn't be?
BJ: What, biological, Intellectual? Moral? Aesthetic?
PM: Do you think you can be PM and a buffoon? That's my point really.
BJ: I think it's very difficult to be both. I agree. Mind you, there have been quite a few Prime Ministers who've done a pretty food job of it!
PM: Can you host HAVE I GOT NEWS FOR YOU and be a Cabinet Minister?
BJ: I don't see how I could, no. I want to win and I want to be in office.
PM: And you want to be taken seriously?
BJ: The awful truth is that people do take me seriously. I judge that by the amount of rage I seem to inspire with my casual remarks.
PM: I dont really buy this buffoon thing. I think you play it up all to make money and charm the public, when underneath it all lurks a calculating, ambitious and very serious brain.
BJ: That's very kind of you but you must consdier the possibility that underneath it all there really may lurk a genuine buffoon.
PM: How much will your image have to change as your political career develops? You cannot go on playing the buffoon if you ever aspire to be leader of this country.
BJ: Very true. And that may be why I am finally prohibited from getting very much higher. Because it may be that the psychological effort needed to haul myself around into a more serious gaffe-free zone proves too difficult.
PM: Do you expect a Cabinet post if Cameron wins?
BJ: I don't know. Statistically speaking I am due to be fired again. My grandmother always said, "It's not how you're doing, it's what you're doing". And I think it will get easier when there is a big job to do and I can get on and do it. These points you make about buffoonery will fall away.
PM: You do want to be Prime Minister one day, don't you?
BJ: Well, of course. In an ideal world.
PM: [what do you think of] Cherie Blair?
BJ: I stick up for her. I think people are too nasty about her. I like her energy.
PM: Do you fancy her?
BJ: Well, erm.. I like her. I suppose I... I suppose I do a tiny bit.
And Boris you were doing so well. This is only about 10% of the entire interview but I thought it worth mentioning here because I got the sense that Boris really does no realise what he has to do to be taken seriously. Can he make it to the Cabinet table? In all honesty I think the jury is out. There is no doubt that he is one of the Conservative Party's main assets but he can also be a huge liability. He remains tremendously popular in the country and among non-Conservatives, but if he were promoted to the Shadow Cabinet soon there would be quite a few mutterings from his parliamentary colleagues I suspect. But you don't get anywhere as a political leader if you don't take a few risks, and David Cameron may think this is one worth taking. There are far too anonymous people in the Shadow Cabinet as the May Media Tarts list will prove, which I will be publishing on Monday. Press visibility isn't everything but in Opposition it counts for a lot. I suspect this is one of the first lessons Andy Coulson will be preaching.