There is something wrong with a process of accountability that, two years on, continues to prevent the publication of the review of the events leading up to 22 July 2005. Health and Safety legislation is an inappopriate mechanism for scrutinising a counter-terrorism operation - and risks a counter-productive impact on policing. However, the trial has shed light on the serial failures that led to the tragic death of Mr De Menezes. They include failures of organisation, command and operations. The failures were systemic, falling within the clear responsibility of the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police. His position is now untenable, in light of these findings and the overriding need to restore public confidence. We think the jury is right to say Cressida Dick should not be blamed for this failure. Neither, should the frontline officers, because this was a serial failure of organisation, training, tactics and resourcing. Only one person can be held overall accountable for that.
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Thursday, November 01, 2007
Sir Ian Blair Must Go
The verdict in the de Menezes case today has many implications, not least for police operational procedures. There was no personal culpability on any of the officers in charge, or Cressida Dick, who directed the operation. However, the Judge was damning in his comments on the way the police conducted themselves. He said it was a "corporate failure, not an individual failure." As Metropolitan Police Commissioner, Ian Blair is in charge of the force as a "corporate body". The buck stops with him. He has to take ultimate responsibility for one of the most grotesque failures of modern policing in recent times. The LibDems have already called for him to resign. I agree. UPDATE: David Davis has also now called on Sir Ian Blair to go. He said...
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I will be very surprised if Sir Ian Blair resigns. The modern culture of leaders in public life is the complete abrogation of responsibility.
whoever sanctioned the defence of "he acted like a bomber" should be sacked as well.
he acted like a bomber - what, you mean he wore clothes, got on a train, then reacted in an alarmed manner when several sinister-looking armed blokes set about him?
disgraceful. also cressida dick said that she was never "out of control" of the situation. well, if that's the case, and they've been found guilty, please leave by the nearest exit, ms dick.
Bah. I was about to say that!
If you think of how Mellor and Parkinson resigned for absolute trivia (it was even trivia at the time) and compare this to the manner in which public figures now cling on beyond all dignity, the discrepancy is striking.
The likes of Rommel used to reture to a quiet room with a bottle of whisky and a revolver. No doubt that now constitutes a breach of health and safety legislation.
Of course he should resign but then so shouold jowell, prescott, bliar, browne etc etc
the best thing DC can do is insist on responsibility in public life when he is elected. it is the only way to reverse the culture of corruption and lying ushered in by this most odious of governments
How does Commissioner Yates sound?
It was Blair who said that officers would be left in a difficult position of not being able to use their judgement in emergency situations, out of fear of breaking the law.
Well excuse me! The rest of the population have to exercise judgement over whether they are breaking the law at all times, and so should the police. If they are not up to the job, they should quit.
Bebopper - "How does Commissioner Yates sound?"
Sounds good.
How is it that a Police Marksman(?!) needed to fire 8 dum dum bullets into the head of someone being held by another officer. Sorry 7, one missed. Some Police, some Marksman.
I just keep imagining if it were me or my brother in that situation. Absolutely petrifying for the victim!
Iain,
Doesn't the buck stop with the person in control of the operation not the head of the organisation.
If we are taking a 'buck stops' approach why limit it to the police? What about ministers?
*Falls over*
Ffffing hell Dale, agreeing with the Lib Dems?!!!
Shock!
Horror!
Glad to see you have finally come to your senses!
In a way this case has illustrated how completely crazy the police service has become, I think it said more about leadership than anything, and the leadership in todays police, despite the so called emphasis placed on it, is very poor indeed. Much of the blame must be laid at the door of the liberal left which has seemingly infiltrated the service at high levels, along with the other once great institutions of this country, and rendered them impotent with the help of Health and Safety and Human Rights legislation. Leadership cannot begin to function in an overly legislated and micromanaged environment. I think the execution of Mr Menezes was a dreadful act, but I also feel for the officers involved on the ground, the firearms teams and surveillance officers, who must have believed they were dealing with a suicide bomber - how they must feel is anyone guess. I just hope that the result of this case is not an even more useless police service, completely tied up and ineffective because of legislation and bureacracy - but once again I think the lawyers will be the only ones coming out with anything in the future. The most simple policing action will now have be justified by a milion words. Shame!
When I used to be a ship's captain (I'm alright now though) I acted upon the principle of "ultimate responsibility" for the actions of those under my command.
So if the second mate ran the ship aground thru poor navigation - my neck was on the line.
Likewise if the chief engineer decided to pump the engineroom bilges over the side - I carried the can as well.
So it's just a pity more people in public service did not operate under the same principle.
Blair should go and take the can for it!
Only very slightly on topic, there have been dark mutterings about an organisation called "Common Purpose".
Several people are caught up with the idea that they want to take over the country, a la Bilderbergers, illuminati, the Jews, et al.
Apparently, Cressida Dick is one of them.
So that's buggered plans for world domination, hasn't it?
Pompous over educated clown. If he has any sense he will resign. When appointing Chief Officers the competition has been to find the unusual. Female, gay, ethnic minority, young,outspoken etc. The results of this experiment are plain to see.
At first we were told that this was a Kratos operation. This means that someone has been positively identified as a suicide bomber, and must therefore be shot dead with no warning. But it now appears that Miss Dick did not issue a Kratos codeword, she merely told the police to "stop" the suspect entering the tube station (too late, as he was already in).
I want to know why the armed police got it into their heads that the suspect had been positively ID'ed as a suicide bomber, when the surveillance officers had not done so, and the operational commander had not given them the Kratos command. They had no right to consider him a suicide bomber and shoot him without warning. It looks to me as if they panicked, and they have got away with it.
So he resigns, pockets a nice payoff plus pension rights most of us could never imagine, probably to be replaced by someone who is even more institutionally useless and wet.
And so the downward spiral continues
He should have resigned long, long before.
A Crown servant displaying the sort of partial behaviour and contempt that he has exuded during his tenure is absolutely unacceptable. He has only served to encourage other senior police officers to enter political debate and demonstrate that it's somehow 'okay'.
Ranter. "...completely crazy how the Police Service..."
Therein lies the whole problem. We used to have a Police Force - now we have a Service which in reality is a sub dept of Social Services. All run by the book/tick boxes and nought to do with common sense and iniative. Whole bloody squad of girl's blouses and still they cock it up. Shoot the lot of them. I blame the politicians for allowing the Force to become a Service.
anonymous 4.02pm I take it you have had experience, first hand, of being involved in a similar situation?
If not, as I suspect, I can tell you that the only way to stop a suicide bomber is to kill the brain!!! nothing less as it is that which controls everything...BUT I accept that everything that could go wrong, went wrong.
I agree that Blair should go but he has previous. He will never resign as he is from the Tony Blair school and they never resign.
But I bet my life that had a junior officer been before Ian Blair on a discipline charge that showed such incompetence, as this case, Blair would sack the man or woman!
The Police Authority should now demand the heads of Blair and Cressida Dick...and none of the 'only a woman' nonsense.
In Brazil, where people are killed by police with gay abandon,the family would never have achieved such an open hearing.
One question. Who is paying for the whole De Menzies family to stay here?
wrinkled weasel.
Common Purpose.
Ian Blair is one also!!
as are most of the cabinet and junior ministers and most police chiefs!!!!
The worrying part is that next time there is a risk of suicide bombers, the police will be too busy filling risk assessments to stop the bombers.
In the midst of all this we have to remember that we are in a very dangerous situation.
We have perhaps large numbers of fanatics in our country who feel allegiance to nobody, except one another. They hold western values and laws in absolute total disregard. They feel alienated, they feel different, and they hold us and our liberties in the utmost contempt. Many are incensed at being regarded with hostility by the public simply because of their dress and their appearance.
Some have now obtained weapons and they are quite prepared to use these to bring unimaginable horror to our public transport.
These people are called "the police" and they have to be stopped.
wrinkled weasel..for your info and others who should be!
Common Purpose (CP)
- a hidden menace in our government and schools
Although it has 80,000 trainees in 36 cities, 18,000 graduate members and enormous power,
Common Purpose is largely unknown to the general public.
It recruits and trains "leaders" to be loyal to the directives of Common Purpose and the EU, instead
of to their own departments, which they then undermine or subvert, the NHS being an example.
Common Purpose is identifying leaders in all levels of our government to assume power when our
nation is replaced by the European Union, in what they call �the post democratic society.� They are
learning to rule without democracy, and will bring the EU police state home to every one of us.
Common Purpose is also the glue that enables fraud to be committed across these government
departments to reward pro European local politicians. Corrupt deals are enabled that put property
or cash into their pockets by embezzling public assets.
It has members in the NHS, BBC, the police, the legal profession, the church, many of Britain�s
8,500 quangos, local councils, schools, social services, the Civil Service, government ministries,
Parliament, and it controls many RDA's (Regional Development Agencies).
Cressida Dick is the Common Purpose senior police officer who authorised the "Shoot to kill" policy
without reference to Parliament, the law or the British Constitution. Jean de Menezes was one of
the innocents who died as a result. Her shoot to kill policy still stands today.
Common Purpose trained Janet Paraskeva, the Law Society's Chief Executive Officer. Surprising
numbers of lawyers are CP members. It is no coincidence that justice is more expensive, more
flawed and more corrupt. And no surprise the courts refused to uphold the law, when a challenge
was made to the signing of the six EU treaties, which illegally abolish Britain's sovereignty.
Common Purpose is backed by John Prescott's Office of the Deputy Prime Minister (ODPM), and
its Chief Executive is Julia Middleton. The Head of the Civil Service Commission is a member
It is close to controlling Plymouth City Council, where is has subverted the democratic process.
Local people cannot get CP's corrupt activities published, because the editors of local papers are in
CP, and refuse to let journalists publish the articles.
The power of councillors is being usurped nationally by council executives, as CP substitutes
�expert officers� and swamps councillors with paperwork and directives. The ODPM�s councillor
monitoring officers can remove councillors who don�t comply, or try to stand up for democracy.
CP started in 1985; in the 1990�s, with its members' cross departmental influence, it was involved
with what then became the disastrous New Millennium Dome Company and the squandering of
�800 million; it appears �300m of this was diverted into the web of quangos set up by CP. There is
a fraud case over this, stalled in the courts thanks to CP's influence in the legal profession.
Over �100 million of our money has been spent on CP courses alone, and its been hidden from the
public, and members names are a guarded secret. It charges substantial figures for its courses.
Matrix for example costs �3,950 plus VAT, and courses for the high flying �leader� can be as much
as �9,950 plus VAT. This money is ours, paid by government departments financing senior staff to
become agents for CP, instead of loyal to their own jobs.
Common Purpose (Ltd by guarantee, No. 2832875) is registered as charity No. 1023384. Given it
targets the powerful, and charges expensive fees, its charity status stinks and should be revoked.
Potential Common Purpose subjects are selected for training. Are they susceptible to being
converted; are they in the right job, with the right colleagues and friends? Do they have power,
influence and the control of money? If the candidate has some, or all of these key attributes, then
the local Common Purpose Advisory Board decides if they can do the course.
Common Purpose - training our future EU rulers - continued
Trained leaders are encouraged to act as a network, enable other members' plans, and have
meetings under the so called Chatham House rules. This effectively means their statements are
not attributable to them, nor can attendees reveal information heard at a Common Purpose
meeting.
Council Officers are having secret meetings with, for example, property developer Common
Purpose friends. No agendas and no minutes. Common Purpose Graduates from the public
quango sectors such as the Regional Development Agencies attend, and have the power to award
large sums of public money to projects.
It is the worst national example of cronyism, closed contract bids, fraud and corruption. And
unseen to the general public.
Common Purpose undermines traditionally effective and efficient government departments with an
overwhelming influx of new language, political correctness and management initiatives. The talk is
of empowering communities, vision, worklessness, mainstreaming (sucking EU money into a
project to sustain it), community empowerment, working partnership, regeneration and celebrating
diversity etc etc. Documents appear about change, and reorganisation.
As CP �leaders� become more senior they employ countless managers and bureaucrats. In time
confusion rules, and things don�t seem to work properly. Management decisions are made that
seem stupidly destructive. The organisation�s performance becomes sluggish. Undermining the
NHS is Common Purpose�s biggest success so far, with bureaucrats outnumbering hospital staff
three to one.
David Cameron, who is pro Europe, uses the language and techniques of Common Purpose
against the Conservative Party. He has appointed Ken Clarke, the most committed of the pro
Europeans, in charge of his �Democracy Taskforce� - rather like putting the cat in charge of the
safety of mice.
Common Purpose specifically targets children from the age of 13, and more recently younger, for
special leadership and citizenship training. Yes, it is active in schools, and again the average
parent has no idea.
People have contacted us to speak of their experiences with Common Purpose. A common theme
is its all sweetness and light, until you fail to follow the direction set by the CP leadership.
Then interesting things happen. Ladies in particular have been bullied at work, some have lost their
jobs, some have become paranoid and depressed at the pressure from people ganging up on
them.
A typical story is a husband describing the decline in his wife from the time she becomes a
Common Purpose graduate. Loss of sparkle, enthusiasm, anxious and �changed�, and she initiated
a divorce.
Other Common Purpose people lie when they are challenged as to their involvement.
Common Purpose candidates are given a two day residential course in which they are �trained� in a
closed residential environment, such as a small hotel. They are encouraged to reveal personal
information about themselves, such as their likes, dislikes, ambitions and dreams. Discussions are
then controlled by the course leaders. Some participants have likened this to Delphi technique or
the application of group psychology such as Cognitive Dissonance or brainwashing.
If you suspect Common Purpose is active in your organisation, or see a pattern of incredibly bad
decisions, money being wasted, notice bullying, fraud, or threats, note the names of those
involved (we've tracked down over a thousand) and please contact us. And publish the truth about
Common Purpose as widely as you can.
Brian Gerrish 07841 464187, David Noakes 07974 437097; http://eutruth.co.uk for action.
i find it deeply troubling that you can get a death sentence from the police on mere "suspicion" of being a terrorist - with the police acting as judge, jury and executioner.
Why does every situation have to have someone to blame? BY all means call for Ian Blair's head - the man is clearly incompetent, but there are a hundred other reasons why he should go than this particular case.
I don't get why no-one can possibly see that the police made a devastating mistake under the most incomprehensible of high pressure circumstances.
Just been Googling 'Common Purpose' - spooky stuff.
Strapworld - My God! The freeloading family are still in Britain? I'll never forget the griefstricken mother landing at Heathrow carrying her bags of duty-free.
I read that the police kill around 2,000 a year in Rio alone, so she should have felt quite at home.
He should not resign. He should be sacked.
what I have never understood is why someone would get on a bus, pass Brixton Tube Station, and then get off the bus at the next tube station to board a train. It would have been quicker to board a train at Brixton. No one has ever answered this question. Or did I or the police miss something
I've just been reading up on Common Purpose. It seems to operate in exactly the same way as the Conservative Party.
As an afterthought I cannot believe that the Special Branch Operations room does not tape the radio and phone traffic during an incident in which the lives of dozens of innocent people are thought to be at risk from a suicide bomber. Let me stress this is not a critisism of the individual officers actually at the scene. To add insult to injury why did they plead "Not Guilty" and wash all their dirty linen in public?
PS Stun guns are the best and safest way to stop this sort of thing.
Sir Ian Blair is morally and intellectually bankrupt. I bet he won't be dipping into his pocket to pay the fine either but will be first with his snout into the trough when bonus time comes round again.
I suspect his resignation would be warmly welcomed by hundreds of police officers.
"I can tell you that the only way to stop a suicide bomber is to kill the brain!!! nothing less as it is that which controls everything.."
Bollox. An Israeli idea, easily countered by a hand-held 'Dead Man's Switch' as is the case in Iraq - hence why the US Forces there don'tgo in for the 7-in-the-head approach - because it doesn't work. If you stop them, you do it somewhere OUTSIDE, and halt them a good distance from anyone else (or as few people as possible). A mag to the head? Risky - and in a Tube Train, utterly foolish as well.
Strapworld "the only way to stop a suicide bomber is to kill the brain". One dumdum bullet in the head is sufficient to do that. According to the transcript the two marksmen(?) fired eight bullets; five hit the head, one the neck, one the shoulder and one missed. The suspect was at the time being held down in his seat by another officer. An IRA contract killer could have done a better job with one shot. It would seem that the SO19 officers were either untrained panicking idiots or psychopaths on a spree.
I thought David Davis was particularly good on PM this evening. Another Shadow Tory who sounds far more on top of the issues than the Govt. Minister.
Of course Blair should go. And of course he won't.
He has to go as does the former Commander Dick. Despite the apparent conclusion that Dick was not at fault, she was the operational commander and it was her operation.
This situation arose because of organisational failings and because of operational failings, for which Blair and Dick were respectively responsible for. The cops who shot the poor guy are the only innocent parties. The damage to the reputation of the Met is colossal.
I used to work in a military ops room, in operations with live armed aircraft. The situation in the Met ops room sounds as if it was out of control with an incompetent commander. The order given was unclear enough to be misunderstood. If it had been a military operation, there would have been courts martial galore. But the police have more clout, can withdraw en masse from firearms duty and know where various political bodies are buried....
It will go to inquest and possibly to Europe (if the Human Rights Act can apply in Iraq it can apply on the Underground) and the aforementioned senior officers may well find themselves in the dock. They will have retired by that stage, with pensions. The bloke was unlawfully killed, as the result of clear failures of the system and of judgement.
As all those police were engaged in a joint enterprise, they should all be held accountable.
This issue is making Question Time in Wales very London-centric... again. We have a London Mayoral candidate, a London MP and an MP from Kent on the panel all rabbitting on about London from the South coast of Wales.
Blair and Dick...look for alternative employment.
Ian Blair should NOT resign.
He should be FIRED. Seven Times.
Anonymous 5:18 PM - Around a month ago, someone put a link to an exposé of Common Purpose. It was one man, giving a talk. I thought the clip would be around three or four minutes. Instead, it lasted for over an hour and a half and I watched it all the way through, rivetted.
Freedom to Prosper - I like weapons, but don't know anything about stun guns. The point about a suicide bomber - the clue is in the adjective - is, as long as he has any control of his facilities, he can press the button on his belt. Dead is best.
DeMenezes - frankly, I may be wrong, but I still think he is suspicious. What was he doing clinging on in Britain? He couldn't get a job as an electrician in Rio? Isn't Britain a strange choice for a Brasilian? Why not Portugal? Why didn't he apply properly to get his visa extended instead of paying for a fraudulent stamp?
In a just well run freeish country responsibility is taken to the top.
In a very bad dictatorial corporate fascist country responsibility is taken to the bottom.
However what sort of country is it where no one takes responsibility at all for any thing EVER.
Quite frankly there are no words in the English language strong enough to describe that sort of nightmare country. Other then just calling it, New Labour's Briton.
It is certainly a Briton I will not take any responsibility for creating whatsoever. Will denounce to any one I meet and will encourage all my 4 children to leave as soon as possible.
Verity. The Common Purpose org. should be looked into for there are many accusations against it. But until someone comes up with a rigorous test of the facts, its just another conspiracy theory story put out by lonely souls who want a simplistic answer to why the world is shit.
One example of this is that members experience mental health problems and marriage breakdown as a direct result of the in-house training. Someone would have to present me with several cases of this corroborated by experts for it to be convincing. That is, doctors trained in psychiatry who understand brainwashing and cult techniques. As it is, the promulgators of this story lack the resources and credibility and no such evidence has been presented.
Sure, CP is a cult, but so is the Alpha Course and so is Freemasonry and so is Queen's Park Rangers fanclub. A certain type of person feels more secure in these things and others don't. There are too many loose cannons, to many individuals and too much f**kup factor in life to allow Bilderbergers and Martians to do much more than tinker with the edges.
Conspiracy theories are massively self-fulfilling - I shall probably be branded a member of CP for merely being sceptical. Muuuhahaha!
Strange that you and Davis had so little to say about it at the time, Iain.
Anonymous 4:02 PM
said...
"It looks to me as if they panicked, and they have got away with it."
Exactly.
Anonymous 6:23 PM
said...
what I have never understood is why someone would get on a bus, pass Brixton Tube Station, and then get off the bus at the next tube station to board a train. It would have been quicker to board a train at Brixton. No one has ever answered this question. Or did I or the police miss something
Because Brixton station was closed. The police didn't notice either.
Who authorised the shoot to kill policy? If it was Cressida Dick, she should go.
Anonymous 7.48. I didn't have anything to say at the time because
a) I didn't have a blog
b) I was working for David Davis
David Davis said quite a lot at the time. A quick Google search will tell you that.
'Working together for a safer London,' emblazoned as it is on the side of each Metropolitan police car and van, means that because of this unfortunate verdict poor Sir Ian could now face, on top of everything else, what he's been secretly dreading all along: that awful knock on the door from his local Trading Standards Office.
And today the orchestrated campaign to keep Blair in his job has got under way. Last night the delightful Jenny Jones (Now MPA Board member and ex Deputy Chair of the GLC) managed to look a complete idiot on Newsnight whilst Grieve carved her arguments up. Today the snivelling Livingstone is talking complete bollox on any news channel he can get to.
And you can bet that several other toadies will be adding to the general cacophony.
Anyone with a shred of decency or honour would not have come out of tha court and proceeded to grandstand in that truly awful manner. Blair reminded me vividly of the Lady McCartney perfomances just a few hours before. Come to think of it, are they related in some way? This self-obsessive sickness is surely congenital.
"anonymous 4.02pm I take it you have had experience, first hand, of being involved in a similar situation?
If not, as I suspect, I can tell you that the only way to stop a suicide bomber is to kill the brain!!! nothing less as it is that which controls everything...BUT I accept that everything that could go wrong, went wrong."
You do not have to have been a Gold Commander to have an opinion based on the evidence. The jury system depends on the good sense of ordinary people.
I understand that on a Kratos operation the suspect must be killed without warning, because he has been positively ID'ed as a suicide bomber. The problem here is that Miss Dick states she did not give the Kratos code word.
It is now unclear whether this was a Kratos operation. If it was not, the armed police had no right to shoot a man without a challenge. They are now saying they shouted "armed police", but no-one else heard them. They are also saying de Menezes got up out of his seat. So did everyone else on the train.
The armed officers had been ordered to stop the suspect before he got to the station. They arrived late, and we have seen the CCTV pictures of them running into the station. I don't think they had time to consider what they were doing, they just did it. Not good enough.
The most telling part of the question time debate was when the absolutely wet and pathetic Paddick was waffling along about diversity initiatives and Edwina Currie jumped in and said "we don't want to hear about police forces and diversity we want to hear about them catching criminals". I'd suggest it is many a long year since an evil Tory got such a genuine round of applause in South Wales
That Lammy was a typical NuLab panellist talking over any attempt to question him and even playing the race card (which Dimbleby picked him up on) when defending the West Lothian question,
Anonymous 8:58 a.m. - Can your read? It has been explained in the media often, and has been explained on this thread twice.
Third time: Not just shoot to kill, but shots to the brain. Shooting in the heart is no good because in the last second or two of consciousness, the suicide nutjob can press the button on his belt. That's why he has to be lifeless instantly. That's why shooting to wound doesn't work.
This sleazy world of murderers from a primitive society, in the service of a primitive belief system is brought to you courtesy of Tony and Cherie Blair and Gordon Brown.
Iain Anon 7:48 was it seems watching to much BBC and Sky TV to notice.
Could you please please do us all a big favor.
Please find out what the Conservative party intend to do about and with the BBC.
This state propaganda cabal has now not only become an obvious mouth piece for secular corporate socialism. But it has also recently abandoned any commitment to reporting what is happening in the world.
Anyone with a cable or a internet connection can see this now. It tells us nothing about anything important whatsoever ANYMORE. It simply has no useful purpose other then to promote divisive socialist ideology.
It is not good enough to reform or change or just sell off the monster to the highest bidder.
It must be closed down or at least broken up and sold to private small shareholders and investors.
This country has no chance sorting out anything while the entire broadcasting media is controlled by such a small number of the same types of people.
This is not intended to be a racist comment I am of exactly the same High faith as they are.
Concentrate more effort on the real creators of what is wrong with YOUR country.
Because even if Cameron gets elected the way things are his hands will be so tied all he will achieve for his party is another long period in the wilderness. With this time nothing at all good to show for it.
David Davis is my fave. As leader he could land votes by the netful - including disenchanted Labourites.
Atlas Shrugged - There are two massive, sinister and toxic organisations that have to be destroyed utterly. By which I mean, their premises razed to the ground and left empty for years to detoxify.
I suggest dynamiting the UN and the BBC on the same day and making that day a national holiday in all the Western democracies.
The Israelis don't shoot suspected suicide bombers 7 times in the head.
They tend to arrest them.
Hence the recent documentary with a portion of their collection of captured suicide bombers....
Yes, Iain Blair etc. were lying when they said that they had adopted Israeli policy...
Yes, Blair's has to go.
Auntie Flo'
The net effect of all this will be weaker police leadership, weaker policing, less willingness to "get stuck in" on behalf of the public, etc.
The calls for Blair's resignation from Tories are politically motivated - they see Blair as New Labour. Disgusting political opportunism of the worst and cheapest sort.
Cressida Dick appears to be one of the key officers responsible and as a fast-tracked officer with little practical experience this is unsurprising and highlights the results of trendy recruitment policies in sensitive and high impact professions like policing.
"The Informer"
Verity you are always on my wave length and have been for some years.
I also note that you have changed your attitude very much at the same rate I have.
You simply do not have to be a brain surgeon, so to speak, to see were we are all going now. Every day makes things more and more clear to anyone, who can still think for themselves.
You are right on both counts but we both surely now know neither is ever going to happen. If it did the BASTARDS would just make us pay to build them both back up again somewhere else.
When one finally stops making excuses for all invented dialectic democratic (mod rule) political parties the world seems a much easier place to understand. In fact almost simple by comparison.
Money rules the world and its all printed by the same small amount of people. What else is there to say?
Auntie Flo' - Blair's what has to go? Whatever it is, I endorse your thinking.
Commisioner Yates sounds Good, he did after all turn down the Offer of a Bonus, An encouraging sign of Good old fashioned British Honour and Integrity sadly Missing in Comrade Blairs Met...
Something has to happen before we end up just another failed Marxist Hell Hole.
SA has 25,000 Murders a year Now.
And to think, they recently unveiled a statue to Mandela.
http://deathofjohannesburg.blogspot.com/
http://uk.wrs.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geumd.bSxHzxIA2VlLBQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTFjNjlhZTk0BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMjkEY29sbwNhYzIEdnRpZANVSzAyNjNfMjYzBGwDV1Mx/SIG=11osv4b7l/EXP=1194180350/**http%3A//blog.ilanamercer.com/%3Fp=378
http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/news/opeds/2003/power_kill_country_am_1203.htm
The point of no return is dawning fast.
Here's the Mets 12 Most wanted list..Remember I didn't compile this list, the Police did
http://www.met.police.uk/wanted/
Here's their 15 Most wanted
http://www.met.police.uk/wanted/othercases.htm
Yet More. And remember the Govt will not deport them.
http://iamanenglishman.com/rogues_gallery.php
Here's west Midlands most wanted.
http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/wanted/index.asp
We never see these in our National News Either.
http://newnation.org/NNN-UK-Europe.html
More Victims of Our Govt's Hidden Genocidal agenda Against Britain and the
British, And remember if you do happen to defend yourself against these People YOU OR YOUR CHILDREN GO TO JAIL..
http://thefallenlist.blogspot.com/
More Slaughter of the British
http://warband.wordpress.com/
http://warband.wordpress.com/category/paedophilia/
We simply have to get our country back and sorted out.
We are at present about 80% of the Population, the EU Socialist
Govt is racing to Flood us out of existance
It will only get worse, we cannot leave this to our children
http://www.crimestoppers-uk.org/wanted/ukmostwanted/
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