Saturday, February 03, 2007
Poll: Blair Should Go Now
An ICM poll for tomorrow's Sunday Express shows that more than half of voters think Tony Blair should resign immediately. 56% say he should go now and 37% want him to stay. Even among Labour supporters, 43% say he should step down... 66% believe that evidence relating to cash-for-honours allegations has been covered up by Downing Street. 71% of people are opposed to the new Las Vegas-style attractions. And 63% believe the Catholic church should have been allowed an exemption in the row over gay adoptions.
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95% believe Moon landings were faked
105% believe Tories set to massacre first born
99% don't know.
I'll go with Gordon Menzies and the Conservatives.
The Conservatives stand against the Roman Catholic Church has cost it 1 Million RC voters.Well Done Cameron.The Christian voters are slightly more forgiving to Labour. Maybe as they are a bit light on the brain cells if they are traditional new labour thickos.The climate is becoming right for a new political party.
The reason Blair should go is that he can't run the government anymore. Its long been clear that he can't run the country.
He should have resigned, for the long term good of democracy in our country, when no WMD were found in Iraq.
He should even resign for his health - which looks terrible - and for the sake of his family.
Interesting poll Iain, I think Blair should go now for the good of the country. Interesting on the gay adoption row.
Personaly I never saw the need for this round of equality legislation in the first place, but perhaps I wouldn't. I am also very skeptical about "activists" banging on about things.
I am truly puzzled by the 37% who want him to stay, particularly when I cogitate on the fact that this is more than one in three of the people I pass in the street, as it were.
Which third person is it that believes the Bliar shoud stay? Is it his belief in the Bliar a result of lack of knowledge, an inability to reason, or maybe something else ("Tories are the nasty party", "When all is said and done he is a pretty straight kinda guy" "I will automatically say No, to any question I am asked (such as should anybody go?)"
Mind you, when I think of Dave inheriting the keys to Number 10 I an not so sure I want the Bliar to go just yet.
Maybe it would be better to wait a bit longer in the hope that a real alternative to this sleazy slug of chancers emerges.
I am truly puzzled by the 37% who want him to stay, particularly when I cogitate on the fact that this is more than one in three of the people I pass in the street, as it were.
Isn't that about the proportion of people who voted for him at the election? I think most people were shocked that there were still people voting Labour even then!
We get the government that the majority deserve...
I'll wait to see what questions were asked and how leading they were.
I suspect a poll on whether people "think David Cameron is a tosser" would yield a positive response of over 50%, but that doesn't mean the Tories wont win the next election.
The only important polls are voting intention (and to some extent people's opinions of leaders). Any sensible polling blog will tell you that.
The Gay Issue is going to cost the Tories more than the Nu Labs.
When The Christian Press starts rolling the Conservatives will lose core voters for the long term.
"I suspect a poll on whether people "think David Cameron is a tosser" would yield a positive response of over 50%, but that doesn't mean the Tories wont win the next election."
Actually, I suspect it means exactly that.
"Actually, I suspect it means exactly that."
Cryptic. Even for an anonymous poster.
Are you saying that the more people dislike Cameron, the better chance he will win a General Election? Bizarre!
I think anonymong was saying that if lots of people think DC is a tosser they won't vote for him.
But I can't believe that many people ever thought that Bliar was "a pretty straight kinda guy" either.
And...100% thought that Diana was abducted by Aliens (or possibly prince Philip - can you tell hte difference?) who were riding on shergar with Lord Lucan in tow before stopping off and having late night burgers with Elvis!
This is the express we are talking about!
If enough people refuse to vote Tory because thay don't like Cameron then Gordon Brown will win the next election and we'll have another 5 years of New Labour.
Get down from your ivory towers and stop being so self-indulgent.
"Get down from your ivory towers and stop being so self-indulgent."
ha ha ha
what on earth does that mean?
what on earth does that mean?
I think he means "the enemy's enemy is my friend". i.e. vote conservative.
"I think he means "the enemy's enemy is my friend". i.e. vote conservative."
How despicably ignoble
With that poll you might want to use this.
Carstairs -
I love you guys! People who think that all they need to do to win the next election is to bang on about Scotland are great!
99% of the people the Tories need to win over to win the next election are going to vote on the economy and on public services.
The Scotland thing might make Tory penises hard, but it just makes you look bigoted to the people you're trying to win over.
That's why Labour will win the next election - Tories can't resist showing their bigotted side.
Anonymous 11:39 said...
95% believe Moon landings were faked
105% believe Tories set to massacre first born
With stats like that you have to be Polly Toynbee.
"Polly implies that 142% of people are dissatisfied with Tony Blair"
(from factchecking Pollyanna)
wonderfulforhisage said:
37%...isn't that about the proportion of people who voted for him at the election?
Comprised of the public services and Lord Cashpoint's pals?
NOT A FAN OF CAMERON,
You've been trolling that line for the past few days now- it's interesting to see that you speak for 1 million Catholic voters.
You're wrong, of course.
Cameron's personal decision not to vote against the legislation might act as yet another tick against him (Christ, they're building up ever-so-quickly), but the fact that this is a free vote shouldn't be too much of a problem for most Catholic constituents who are losing sleep at night over the matter.
Of course, the other point is, what are they going to do? Not vote and help Labour get in? Come on- get it together. Even the Catholic church is pragmatic on such matters and will recognise the 'lesser of two evils'.
You sound as bad as those Muslim 'community representatives' who make veiled threats about being disenfranchised from the political process.
Machiavelli's understudy: "You sound as bad as those Muslim 'community representatives' who make veiled threats about being disenfranchised from the political process."
No. Catholics and Methodists don't plan to behead people who don't believe in an unpleasant and backward diety.
And, the muslim "community" and their veiled threat --- yes, I get the joke --- need to understand that they are living in Britain, which has a 2,000 year history of striding towards civil liberty. They are not going to overcome hundreds of generations of British people with their ghastly philosophy.
Eh? Why will Cameron's adoption vote 'cost the Conservatives 1m votes?
Labour is in Government, the overall bill in which this controversy sits was brought forward by Labour and the Catholic church was told to fuck off by a Labour cabinent.
So us Catholics will take it out on Cameron?
Christ almighty.
Maybe 1m Catholics will refrain/abstain from voting Labour next time?
Ever thought of that?
"Britain, which has a 2,000 year history of striding towards civil liberty"
Presumably the 2000 years referred to lasted from 3 BC to 1997 AD? We are doing our best now to become the high-tech surveillance and detention-without-trial capital of Europe. And so far as I can tell, few people give a damn and many, starting with our thrice-elected Prime Minister, actually welcome this.
37% wanted Blair to stay...must have been the postal vote.
Blair is only interested in himself he has no care for anything else.
Why dont the Labour Party DO something about him. I think history will judge him as the worst PM ever.
I'm stunned to find The Express wants Blair gone....whatever next ?
Ed said...
We get the government that the majority deserve...
11:54 PM
Surely the majority get the government that the minority elect; deserved, or not.
The threats from alleged 'Christians' that they won't vote Tory because of Cameron's stance on Catholic exemption from discrimination legislation terrify the shit out of me.
I've seen comments on other sites about 'taking back Conservatism for Christianity' - well I don't want any religious faction to take over my Party, nor do I want it beholden to ANY religion.
Didn't we have enough with that arch hypocrite and supposed Christian, Bliar, claiming that you couldn't be a Christian and vote Tory?
There is just one good reason for wanting Bliar to stay on as PM - every day will weaken NuLab and Brown.
Murdoch was given the exclusive by a Brownite source:
SHOCK admissions by one of Tony Blair's closest aides are set to lead to three people being charged in the Cash For Honours scandal.
The News of the World can reveal that the Prime Minister's political secretary John McTernan "started the dominos falling" when quizzed by cops.
These dominos are expected to come crashing down around Blair, who yesterday pleaded with the Labour Party to be allowed to stay on in Downing Street. We can reveal:
THE new evidence led to two arrests and Mr Blair being questioned by detectives.
NOW three people, including two of the PM's closest aides, the Prime Minister's fundraiser Lord Levy and his head of government relations Ruth Turner, are set to be chargedSources at the Crown Prosecution Service say they think police now have enough evidence to bring charges. Lord Levy faces two, abuse of honours and conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.
Miss Turner can expect to be charged with Perverting the Course of Justice. And Sir Christopher Evans, the millionaire who lent Labour £1million in May 2005, faces a charge under the 1925 Honours (Prevention of Abuse) Act.
And last night CPS sources said they think the Prime Minister will be questioned again, a third time, possibly under caution.
Downing Street aides have been warned the worse case scenario is possible within the next few weeks. In his police interview the PM told detectives he would "get back to them" with answers to key questions.
CPS sources say the police are unhappy with the incomplete answers they were given. The Crown Prosecution Service have now spent 11 months working with detectives investigating the affair.
Now they believe enough evidence has been amassed to make charges stick.....continues
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/story_pages/news/news3.shtml
Blair's misdemeanours pale into insignificance compared to Brown's trashing of the UK economy. This will soon come back to haunt us for years to come and destroy the living standards of millions:
Treasury debt is twice Chancellor's 'sustainable' figure, says think-tank
economics correspondent
Sunday February 4, 2007
The Observer
Gordon Brown has hidden liabilities worth more than £500bn, and the true size of the public debt is up to 87 per cent of GDP, more than twice the Treasury's 'sustainable' limit, according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies.....
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,,2005183,00.html
bw 'I am also very skeptical about "activists" banging on about things.'
So if you were in Oxford, and on side of the street you saw people protesting against 'animal testing', and on the other side of the road the 'Pro-Test' people were campaigning for the right to test medicines on animals you would be sceptical enough to think you should walk down the middle of the road, as neither would get your support ?
Blair's 'legacy' could be the laying bare of the mechanisms of government to us all. In their clumsiness and naivety 'new' Labour has acted since 1997 outside the limits of propriety, although what they have engaged in is familiar practice, conducted with more reserve, to all insiders.
Consider these mechanisms on Blair's departure. There are a lot of paid for governmental favours still to be delivered - just think of all those PFI initiatives, the industry placemen in the spending ministries, the computerisation kickbacks, the war funding, the privatisation of local government services etc. Delivering appropriate policies on casinos (money laundering) alone has to be in the 'right' hands.
The support for Brown as successor is marked in some media and in some factions of the Labour Party.
Either Brown (and the Labour Party) is as deeply into all this as Blair, in which case should go down with him.
Or is so different from Blair that Blair's majority should be re-affirmed at a general election on Blair's departure as a Brown/Labour majority.
Certainly we did not vote for this shambles; neither did we vote for Brown whether he is part of it or not.
Look at the news today:
Blair's cronies Levy and Turner to be arrested.
Tony and Cherie's rich Indian pal, a "race advisor" to the Government, is being investigated for running a "people trafficing racket"
The public debt run up by Brown is revealed to be twice as big as he has been claiming.
Brown's Smith Institute to be investigated by the Charity Commission for alleged breach of the rules.
Increasing numbers of Labour MP's including most of the cabinet want Blair to step down now.
Charles Clarke turns on Reid.
Gordon Brown's latest desperate attempt at populism is to raise £25million to set up a Trust for Shilpa Shetty (Celebrity Big Brother) to enable her to impart her Indian wisdom to the British public.
McTernan and Powell singing like canaries to save their own skins.
Levy states "I'm not going to be the fall guy"
Meanwhile the rate of debt defaults, bankruptcies, repossessions and business failures accelerate as the pyramid scheme of an economy created by Brown heads towards recession.
Don't you get the feeling that it's the end of an era? 10 years of sleaze, dishonesty and corruption is coming to the surface like a puss-filled boil.
New Labour's chickens are coming home to roost.
How much longer can they carry on?
Here's Brown's shameful legacy as Chancellor in a nutshell:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml;jsessionid=TGL4WSCA0G3LRQFIQMGSFF4AVCBQWIV0?xml=/opinion/2007/02/04/do0405.xml
"The Scotland thing might make Tory penises hard, but it just makes you look bigoted to the people you're trying to win over."
It amuses me how you think the English aren't bothered about the Scottish issue. It might not be the most important thing on our minds but we don't consider it bigoted to point out the West Lothian Question etc. Come to think of it, didn't a recent poll show a majority favouring independence?
The Christian Bloggers are right. Some of the Sunday Christian Publications are headlined just to switch the readers off voting Tory as well as Tony.
You HAve ALL beeN wARNEed.
Hung parliaments will be the consequence and the Catholics,Anglicans,United Reformists.Evangelicals and Methodists will win the day with a united front.
This is in light of all the warnings that the Conservative Party is being overun and ruled by Homosexuals.
Yes, PJ. My error.
Blair should go now, and so should all his cabinet and administration; they are all part of the governmental incompetence and corruption amply analysed and described here and just about everywhere else (except for the Guardian).
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