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Friday, May 08, 2009
Iain Dale Radio Show Open Thread 11pm-1am
If you're listening on PlayRadioUK.com feel free to use this thread to contribute to the show. Or why not phone in or Skype?
We'll be discussing MPs' expenses, Joanna Lumley, the rise of the BNP, the Euro elections and a lot more. Here's how to get in touch with you.
There is the matter of all EU citizens of Member States being allowed to vote. EU prisoners in UK prisons can vote, and UK prisoners in Europe can vote but EU citizens who are also UK citizens cannot vote. What kind of shambles is this?
So has Phil Woolas been buying Joanna Lumley some Agent Provocateur undies to get on her good side, and then buying some nappies in case he $h!ts himself if he still gets on her 'bad side'....
This seems to be the best link for it, the internal player is a bit fidgety and the link on the web site is wrong. http://audio1.playradiouk.com:8490/listen.pls
I'd love to be listening, Iain: but I'm one of those pesky meddling Mac users, and the playradio site doesn't seem to work for me. I follow the Mac links, but can only get PlayTwo through iTunes. By all means tell me if I'm being daft.
My concern tonight is the calling in of the police over the expenses leak. What does the Speaker think he's doing, emulating Jacqui Smith over Greengate?
Not able to listen to the programme but --- today 4 soldiers were killed. Corus looks like closing a steel plant. The Gurkha scandal rolls on. Thousands of jobs continue to be under threat at Vauxhall, Jag/LR and LDV. The Guardian reports we should brace ourselves for a 3rd wave in the financial crisis.
The main news though is about the scandal of MPs expenses.
Never mind Woolas, John Major should sue anyone who compares his final years with what's happening to Browns fag end government.
Not able to listen to the programme but --- today 4 soldiers were killed. Corus looks like closing a steel plant. The Gurkha scandal rolls on. Thousands of jobs continue to be under threat at Vauxhall, Jag/LR and LDV. The Guardian reports we should brace ourselves for a 3rd wave in the financial crisis.
The main news though is about the scandal of MPs expenses.
Never mind Woolas, John Major should sue anyone who compares his final years with what's happening to Browns fag end government.
Iain, The MPs are saying that their claims are within the rules, but I haven't heard any explanation from them how multiple flipping of their 2nd home designations is beyond reproach. It's clearly done for personal financial gain, and therefore against the rules.
Doesn't seem to be working for me. Get an error message when it tries to stream. FWIW, I'm using an iMac running Firefox. Never usually have problems streaming media.
Glad to see that I wasn't the only one having problems connecting with either a Mac or a PC.
Definite bandwidth bottleneck somewhere, irrespective of what the techie at the radio station insisted on telling me.
Better fix it by next week or people will rapidly lose interest.
I can, otoh, commend Mrs Dale's promptness at answering the phone and sounding professional.
ps. Why can't this show be run from a US radio server, then everything would work and as well one could use a Squeezebox to listen to the broadcasts without hogging mega bandwidth.
Great show, and I enjoyed being on it. Keep up the good work.
It's true, however, that playradiouk.com's server is extremely unreliable and slow. It takes forever to get in to listen, and every ten minutes or so the server would cut out.
But I know it's not easy, doing my own radio show on BlogtalkRadio, which broadcasts in AM sound quality, whereas PlayRadio is in FM stereo.
Also, the site was inaccessible for Firefox; on IE it finally worked (but was still slow and spotty).
It is becomming clear, that contrary to Harman's claims, that rules HAVE been broken. For example (1) cost were supposed to include REPAIRS, many including Gordon Brown claimed for a NEW IKEA kitchen.
What we are seeing is CRIMINAL FRAUD on a massive scale. I suspect hundreds of MPs have broken the law. I think there should be a quick investigation if each MP by their own local police and they should be prosecuted in their own area.
Iain you have said before you cannot support their behaviour. You need to come up with a view whether ParliMent is full of criminals or not and say so publically. You cannot become part of what is looking like the worst episode in British political history.
Just wanted to add that the rules state that Peter oborne is saying that the rules only covered REPAIRS. So Gordons new kitchen and Prezzas new mock Tudor beams are clearly outside the rules. Hundreds of MPs have committed criminal fraud , the fact the expense office conspired is irrelevant.
A lot of MPs on all sides of the house ave committed a crime, including Gordon, they need to be arrested.
It would be interesting to find out what legal advice they have been given.
Good show, and some interesting callers too (but not enough).
Some risque jokes were a bit too kinky and in-your-face tho I thought -- it's funny at the time, but in the end it severely limits your audience and detracts from what you're talking about.
But all in all, I think your shock-jock role so far is the best you attempted I think, you have a great radio voice too.
I too had connection problems -- btw, is there an mp3 for those who missed the show?
Seeing the interesting emails you didn't have time to read on the show would also be good, plus if people take the time to compose and you run out of time and can't present their input, it's nice to be able to see their thoughts anyway and their effort won't be wasted.
To rebuild confidence in both houses of parliament I suggest we take up the proposal below.
It should be an honour to be an MP’s and serve the electorate and the country so MP’s pay will stay the same. As MP’s do not need qualifications to become an MP the wages should be designed to keep them in touch with the average worker. While they are MP’s Lords and Baronets they will not be permitted to have any other job or consultancy nor shall they be a member of a local parliament or council. Lords and Baronets will be given a flat rate for voting, no more sign in and leave.
We need to build possibly in an old Army or TA location in central London, MP, Lords and Baronets Apartments. The apartments will be for MP’s Lords and Baronets who live outside a 75 miles radius form parliament (If an MP has a constituency within the 75 miles radius but decides to lives outside their constituency they will be given the option to stay at the apartments at a flat fee of £75 per night). MP’s Lords and Baronets can take up the offer of to live there or not. If not they will not get any living allowance in consideration!
The apartments will be 2 bed roomed with a cooker, fridge, washing machine, tumble dryer and carpeted. They will be cleaned for the MP’s, Lords and Baronets by an appointed firm and have free telephone, sky/cable TV, internet, free utilities and council tax, maintenance and guarded by the Met or a security firm.
The MP, Lords and Baronets will provide all the furnishings and food, when the MP’s leave parliament they will move out and the new MP will move in after the apartment has been a cleaned and painted. If unelected an MP’s will get a one off payment of £1500 to move out of the apartment, if they retire they will cover the cost themselves.
The apartment will be for the sole use of the MP, Lord and Baronet. They cannot be used for any other purpose, i.e. children, family or friends unless accompanied by the MP, Lord and Baronet!
The MP, Lords and Baronets will get reimbursed for flights in economy class, fist class rail travel, bus journeys, and after 8pm a taxi from Parliament to the apartment only and only after producing a receipt. They will get 10 free flights for their partners a year non transferable, no other subsidy for partners.
MP’s Lords and Baronets will get 35 days holiday a year. MP’s pension entitlement will be as that of the Armed Forces. Only after 22 years service will an MP get their full pension, not the 12 years currently.
They must advertise all jobs in their offices; no family member will be automatically given a job. Constituency offices will be owned and operated by the party, constituency offices will not be owned by the MP’s family, extended family or friends. All MP’s will get a flat rate office allowance set at the average for financial year 06/07 and a flat rate motor mileage allowance set at the average for financial year 06/07.
If there are other constructive points add them here we can then send them to the commission into MP’s pay and conditions for their consideration, and if they come up with something that is outlandish we can inform them that this is against public opinion!
46 comments:
That website seemed to be down for me, took ages to load.
Iain must be very popular indeed!
Iain, do you think you would have been on the front pages of the Daily Telegraph if you had become an MP?
If not why not!
Having trouble connecting Iain, have we overloaded it?
Forget my last, I'm now connected.
"French polishing" doesn't come cheap!
“I’ve never had so many knobs in front of me. Actually, I have, but that’s a different story…”
Ho, ho! :-)
(Word verification: "mingular"!)
There is the matter of all EU citizens of Member States being allowed to vote. EU prisoners in UK prisons can vote, and UK prisoners in Europe can vote but EU citizens who are also UK citizens cannot vote. What kind of shambles is this?
The site doesn't support Macs. Aargh!
So has Phil Woolas been buying Joanna Lumley some Agent Provocateur undies to get on her good side, and then buying some nappies in case he $h!ts himself if he still gets on her 'bad side'....
Sorry..
This seems to be the best link for it, the internal player is a bit fidgety and the link on the web site is wrong.
http://audio1.playradiouk.com:8490/listen.pls
I've tried three different browsers to get it going. No joy so far...
Must be popular!
Would have been nice to listen, but you appear to have broken PlayRadioUK Iain.
It wont load for me on any of three internet connections. Just times out.
Too popular?
I'd love to be listening, Iain: but I'm one of those pesky meddling Mac users, and the playradio site doesn't seem to work for me. I follow the Mac links, but can only get PlayTwo through iTunes. By all means tell me if I'm being daft.
My concern tonight is the calling in of the police over the expenses leak. What does the Speaker think he's doing, emulating Jacqui Smith over Greengate?
Not able to listen to the programme but --- today 4 soldiers were killed. Corus looks like closing a steel plant. The Gurkha scandal rolls on. Thousands of jobs continue to be under threat at Vauxhall, Jag/LR and LDV. The Guardian reports we should brace ourselves for a 3rd wave in the financial crisis.
The main news though is about the scandal of MPs expenses.
Never mind Woolas, John Major should sue anyone who compares his final years with what's happening to Browns fag end government.
Not able to listen to the programme but --- today 4 soldiers were killed. Corus looks like closing a steel plant. The Gurkha scandal rolls on. Thousands of jobs continue to be under threat at Vauxhall, Jag/LR and LDV. The Guardian reports we should brace ourselves for a 3rd wave in the financial crisis.
The main news though is about the scandal of MPs expenses.
Never mind Woolas, John Major should sue anyone who compares his final years with what's happening to Browns fag end government.
PS - not sure if this is going twice.
I just spend ten mins trying to listen, but could not find the station or make it play.
For those having trouble finding the correct listen link on the Play Radio UK website try this link:-
http://audio1.playradiouk.com:8490/listen.pls
This should launch Winamp or other media player and connect directly to the stream.
Oscar.
Aha! It's working now! Wonderful. The Mac "advanced listening" link works.
V. disappointing - I just can't get it to load up. Constantly 'connecting to media'. Anyone else having this problem?
Mr Dale just too popular??
Iain,
The MPs are saying that their claims are within the rules, but I haven't heard any explanation from them how multiple flipping of their 2nd home designations is beyond reproach. It's clearly done for personal financial gain, and therefore against the rules.
Can't get through to the playradiouk.com site. Taking hours.
Goodnite
Do you get paid when you appear on the BBC Iain?
sorry Iain. I'm trying to listen but the Play Radio site is unbelievably slow.
Doesn't seem to be working for me. Get an error message when it tries to stream. FWIW, I'm using an iMac running Firefox. Never usually have problems streaming media.
There appears to be some right nutters calling in. Liebour voters probably.
A shame I didn't get on, Iain. Oh, well. It was a good show though - thanks.
Well, I heard most of it and I thought you did pretty well.
Crap! I missed it! Damn, I forgot what the time was.
I hope it went well, Iain?
Actually, I wanted to apologise if my question came across as being patronising. It wasn't meant to be. My apologies if it came across otherwise.
I could get it to work.
Was the show recorded? any mp3's we could dl?
Glad to see that I wasn't the only one having problems connecting with either a Mac or a PC.
Definite bandwidth bottleneck somewhere, irrespective of what the techie at the radio station insisted on telling me.
Better fix it by next week or people will rapidly lose interest.
I can, otoh, commend Mrs Dale's promptness at answering the phone and sounding professional.
ps. Why can't this show be run from a US radio server, then everything would work and as well one could use a Squeezebox to listen to the broadcasts without hogging mega bandwidth.
I tried to see if they had listen again, but it kept buffering...
I use Firefox. Might that be it?
Great show, and I enjoyed being on it. Keep up the good work.
It's true, however, that playradiouk.com's server is extremely unreliable and slow. It takes forever to get in to listen, and every ten minutes or so the server would cut out.
But I know it's not easy, doing my own radio show on BlogtalkRadio, which broadcasts in AM sound quality, whereas PlayRadio is in FM stereo.
Also, the site was inaccessible for Firefox; on IE it finally worked (but was still slow and spotty).
Gave up trying to log on. Two different browsers and still nothing - shame really.
I didn't have much difficulty connecting - (PC not mac). Bit slow/confusing initially but fine after that.
Pretty good - line X got a bit repetitive - good of Tom Harris to call in - the more MP's/MEP's etc the better.
About 6-7 out of 10 I reckon which is a good rating for first broadcast - any idea of audience size?
I had trouble connecting but found this page:
http://www.playradiouk.com/radio_channel.php
and click on one of the links, covers both mac and windows. Got connected no problems.
Will it go up on Itunes or something like that?
It is becomming clear, that contrary to Harman's claims, that rules HAVE been broken. For example (1) cost were supposed to include REPAIRS, many including Gordon Brown claimed for a NEW IKEA kitchen.
What we are seeing is CRIMINAL FRAUD on a massive scale. I suspect hundreds of MPs have broken the law. I think there should be a quick investigation if each MP by their own local police and they should be prosecuted in their own area.
Iain you have said before you cannot support their behaviour. You need to come up with a view whether ParliMent is full of criminals or not and say so publically. You cannot become part of what is looking like the worst episode in British political history.
Just wanted to add that the rules state that Peter oborne is saying that the rules only covered REPAIRS. So Gordons new kitchen and Prezzas new mock Tudor beams are clearly outside the rules. Hundreds of MPs have committed criminal fraud , the fact the expense office conspired is irrelevant.
A lot of MPs on all sides of the house ave committed a crime, including Gordon, they need to be arrested.
It would be interesting to find out what legal advice they have been given.
Good show, and some interesting callers too (but not enough).
Some risque jokes were a bit too kinky and in-your-face tho I thought -- it's funny at the time, but in the end it severely limits your audience and detracts from what you're talking about.
But all in all, I think your shock-jock role so far is the best you attempted I think, you have a great radio voice too.
I too had connection problems -- btw, is there an mp3 for those who missed the show?
Seeing the interesting emails you didn't have time to read on the show would also be good, plus if people take the time to compose and you run out of time and can't present their input, it's nice to be able to see their thoughts anyway and their effort won't be wasted.
A good start and not too many Gary Bellamy / Down the line incidents..
How long will it be before Iain 'Savage' Dale is banned from the environs of Westminster by Jackboobs Smith ?
Was looking forward to the show but couldn't log in. Is it available to listen to again ?
Thanks for all your comments. Am sorry there were logging on problems. I will forward all the comments to PlayRadioUK.
There will be a podcast available from tomorrow. I will post the link when it is up.
To rebuild confidence in both houses of parliament I suggest we take up the proposal below.
It should be an honour to be an MP’s and serve the electorate and the country so MP’s pay will stay the same. As MP’s do not need qualifications to become an MP the wages should be designed to keep them in touch with the average worker. While they are MP’s Lords and Baronets they will not be permitted to have any other job or consultancy nor shall they be a member of a local parliament or council.
Lords and Baronets will be given a flat rate for voting, no more sign in and leave.
We need to build possibly in an old Army or TA location in central London, MP, Lords and Baronets Apartments. The apartments will be for MP’s Lords and Baronets who live outside a 75 miles radius form parliament (If an MP has a constituency within the 75 miles radius but decides to lives outside their constituency they will be given the option to stay at the apartments at a flat fee of £75 per night). MP’s Lords and Baronets can take up the offer of to live there or not. If not they will not get any living allowance in consideration!
The apartments will be 2 bed roomed with a cooker, fridge, washing machine, tumble dryer and carpeted. They will be cleaned for the MP’s, Lords and Baronets by an appointed firm and have free telephone, sky/cable TV, internet, free utilities and council tax, maintenance and guarded by the Met or a security firm.
The MP, Lords and Baronets will provide all the furnishings and food, when the MP’s leave parliament they will move out and the new MP will move in after the apartment has been a cleaned and painted. If unelected an MP’s will get a one off payment of £1500 to move out of the apartment, if they retire they will cover the cost themselves.
The apartment will be for the sole use of the MP, Lord and Baronet. They cannot be used for any other purpose, i.e. children, family or friends unless accompanied by the MP, Lord and Baronet!
The MP, Lords and Baronets will get reimbursed for flights in economy class, fist class rail travel, bus journeys, and after 8pm a taxi from Parliament to the apartment only and only after producing a receipt. They will get 10 free flights for their partners a year non transferable, no other subsidy for partners.
MP’s Lords and Baronets will get 35 days holiday a year. MP’s pension entitlement will be as that of the Armed Forces. Only after 22 years service will an MP get their full pension, not the 12 years currently.
They must advertise all jobs in their offices; no family member will be automatically given a job. Constituency offices will be owned and operated by the party, constituency offices will not be owned by the MP’s family, extended family or friends. All MP’s will get a flat rate office allowance set at the average for financial year 06/07 and a flat rate motor mileage allowance set at the average for financial year 06/07.
If there are other constructive points add them here we can then send them to the commission into MP’s pay and conditions for their consideration, and if they come up with something that is outlandish we can inform them that this is against public opinion!
@Dorian Smith
The links against the icons on that page didn't work for me; iTunes opened but I got PlayTwo, and the Human League rather than Iain.
But later I tried scrolling down to the "Mac advanced listening" bit - clicking on PlayTalk there worked.
"BexleyTory said...
Will it go up on Itunes or something like that?"
Yes, if you look lower down on this page:
http://www.playradiouk.com/radio_channel.php
for Windows PC Advanced Listing or Mac Advance Listing it should allow you to hear it via iTunes (it did on my mac).
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