Monday, May 18, 2009

New Guardian ICM Poll


Will Woodward has the story HERE. Although the Tory score is down one point, their lead is up one.

The results of the poll, conducted over the weekend after the Daily Telegraph had featured stories on MPs of all three main parties, underline the view at Westminster that Cameron's response to the 12-day furore has been more fleet-footed and direct than Brown's. But the results also suggest that voters believe all parties have been damaged by the row and that the issue has not become a general election decider.

More than two-thirds of those surveyed, 69%, say the prime minister has handled the controversy badly, including half of all Labour voters. But 55% of voters credit the Conservative leader with handling it well. Opinion on Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat leader, is evenly split: 37% say he has handled it well and 39% badly.

Some 63% of those asked thought all political parties had been damaged by the expenses scandal, but 34% thought Labour was most damaged. Some 17% thought the Conservative party had been damaged the most and 6% nominated the Lib Dems. The percentages on this question added up to well over 100% because voters were allowed to nominate two parties as well as "all of them".

26 comments:

Anonymous said...

Tories increase their lead from 10 Points to Eleven Points as Labour slump!

Anonymous said...

Labour and Liberal Democrats are shameless in not dealing with MP expense sleaze!

Rennard has still not been moved and the LD chief executive was fingered by the NOTW 8 days ago!

Lee H said...

I get the feeling there is an opportunity out there just waiting to be found. Will DC find it and will he use it? The time is for leadership, the petition is good politics but now is the time to show what he is really made of. Suggestions would be welcome and interesting. These moments don't always come along and here is one to seize. Momentum is everything and is always best got the jaws of darkness as such. People love new ideas that they can hang there hats on.

Anonymous said...

Nick Clegg has been the usual Pious Liberal Democrat he has to be as head of that party!

Clegg has done nothing of substance in regard to MP troughing or the michael Brown donation or even the shamelss Lord Rennard who is LD chief executive and a champion Peer of Pigs for taking expenses that do not stand upto the court of public opinion!

LD LD LD - Out Out Out!

Catosays said...

ILLIBERAL DEMOCRATS said...

Rennard has still not been moved and the LD chief executive was fingered by the NOTW 8 days ago!



I'm sure Iain won't mind if I ask you to rephrase that!

Anonymous said...

LEE,

Directly elected PM STV (Like London Election). A Deputy PM also on the ticket - this means a useless one eyed Idiot can never be foisted on the nation again!

Commons cut to 300
Peers cut to 100 (Elected in 25's so a quarter each year).

Ministers appointed by PM mandate
2 term limit of 4 years per term (Max 8 years).

Anonymous said...

Cato - Ok Rennard was Nobbled by the News of the World 8 days ago and the Member is still in tact!

Lee H said...

Illiberal Democrats

So each county regardless of size would get two elected life peers for example. Giving the population two opportunities every 4 years to vote on national issues? Here is one, in England and Wales the constituency size is roughly 55000 and in Scotland 44000. How about a bit of a re-balance? Scotland has its own parliament after all? That would bring the number of MP's down a bit?

Anonymous said...

Lee - No it is done on population not county!

You would just add up the wards to get a fair representation for each seat.

In theary if you have an election each year then you 25 representatives for the entire UK. So 25 are elected for 4 years every year. Scotland, NI and wales would get the number of elected peers their population merits.

Mirtha Tidville said...

As long as Labour`s share of the vote keeps declining I shall remain one very happy bunny..

Anonymous said...

LEE,

So that might mean 18 English
1 Northern Ireland
1/2 welsh
4/5 Scottish

Mike said...

Hmm, Con 39%, Lab 28% and LibDems on 20%. Thats a Tory majority of just 8 seats according to UK Polling Report.

Not much to crow about Iain compared to the weekend polls.

Simon said...

So 87% of those polled are still going to vote for one of the corrupt main parties who are at the centre of the present fiasco.

They have polled 101% and not noticed which looks a bit dodgy. Are the people of this country stupid enough to vote for more of the same? Looks like it.

DMB said...

Haven't Guardian polls been a bit off mark recently? Let's hope so because I fear that Brown, Mandy, Jacqui, and Martin will read these poll figures as indicating that they are scratched rather than shattered and that there is not a huge consensus in the country against them and that given time and fair went, they could even retrieve the situation. So a lot will hang on the Euro elections not producing this kind of result.

Dave S said...

Few ideas, nothing really new, an elected upper chamber, without political parties involved. A free vote (clearly) on all legislation passed to the upper chamber.

The Speaker, assuming we have a proper speaker, to be able to override party whips, and declare a free vote on matters considered in the wider national interest.

Also MPs to serve for only one term, so it's more a sabbatical in their career than a career in itself.

Anonymous said...

I think it would be a very good thing if the LibDems became the Oppostion party and Labour fell to 2nd oppostion party.

The nation would hugely benefit from this shift in power. The more people who vote LibDem the better. It's pretty certain now that DC will win the next general election.

I hope David Cameron is prepared to leave the status quo behind and get rid of any Tory MPS who can't or won't change with the times.

Anonymous said...

A bit O/T but I can't help thinking, looking at the posting styles of Martin Day and Illiberal Democrats, that there is, er, a certain similarity...I'm sure I'm just imagining it...

Anonymous said...

Anon May 18, 2009 8:34 PM

Yes the same person but two different posting names! One anti-Labour and one anti-Liberal Democrat (LD = Pious self interested schisters!!!).

Any problem with that or do you want me to stop posting due to you ILLIBERAL views?

Anonymous said...

May 18, 2009 8:53 PM
"do you want me to stop posting?"


Yes, please. :)

Anonymous said...

Haven't you got a day job to go to?

DARFC

Anonymous said...

canvass & Anom -

No i am unemployed due to Labour supported by the LDs when it suited them screwing up the economy!

The economy is in a mess - If i cannot go to work everyday i will make my displeasure known of Labour and Liberal Democrats in every way i can.


Labour and the Liberal Democrats had voting pacts and joint cabinet meetings when it suited them politically. They are two cheeks of the same rotten bottom! They both need kicking out in every seat possible to enable change! A vote for the LD is a vote for Labour and vice versa. LD lie even to voters through two horse bar graphs, they have a chief executive Lord Rennard who should be sacked and a £2 Million donation financed by stolen money.

I am sure you would like me to stop posting but Labour and Liberal Democrats are rotten to the core!

Labour LD Labour - Out Out Out!

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Anonymous said...

ILLIBERAL DEMOCRATS> please by all means voice your opinion - but must you shout downeveryone else and be a blowhard about it?

We know how strongly you feel...you've made your point. Stay rational :) thanks

Anonymous said...

Cameron should suggest to the constituencies to deselect the
greedy like Ancram, Hogg, Mckay, Mrs Mckay... who are downright dishonest.
I wonder whether this will happen. The ICM poll is a warning, the ratings can nose dive and the consequences we all know- a hung parliament and Lab-Libdem coalition.

Pelagius said...

Looks like 'Brit-gate' has hit the British unionist parties hardest. Quite right too. It's their rotten parliament, which can't even reform itself. How can it be expected to govern a state?

In Scotland and Wales, the SNP and Plaid Cymru are being seen as trustworthy alternatives for 4th June.

And, of course, the more the UK is seen as a failed state, the more likely independence is seen as the better option in the north and west of Great Britain.

Imagine it, republics with written constitutions and the separation of powers. Much more sensible than the Westminster mess.

cassandra said...

Labour on 28%? I dont think so!

Just who are ICM polling, labour MPs?
A quick look back at previous grauniad polls tells you that they always inflate labour support, a dodgy poll that is miles away from all the other polls being taken, something smells fishy, a socialist rag propped up by state aid(charitable status&nonjob adverts) coming out with a rose tinted poll at the very time Brown needs support?
Lets see all the other polls and compare them eh?