tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post952774778275340497..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: My Mother Loved Jeremy ThorpeIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-53717762480964389202008-01-29T21:40:00.000+00:002008-01-29T21:40:00.000+00:00I'm fairly sure there is nothing more about the Th...I'm fairly sure there is nothing more about the Thorpe scandal which hasn't already emerged. The trial brought almost everything known then. Anything really damaging would have been found in David Holmes' papers after his death. <BR/><BR/>There is an untransmitted LWT documentary about the case which was prepared in anticipation of a guilty verdict but this doesn't actually contain anything novel; it's just the prosecution case in film form.<BR/><BR/>The only 'smoking gun' which could still be out there would have to be in the possession of Andrew Newton (aka Hann Redwin) but casting doubt on his trustworthiness was one of the few areas where Mr Justice Cantley was on the money in 1979.<BR/><BR/>Despite threatening legal action at almost all stages Thorpe has never gone through with it, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among those who have written about the case. Freeman and Penrose's "Rinkagate" gives no indication of having been gutted by lawyers.David Boothroydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01161970886471901426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-73591070861923430212008-01-29T18:15:00.000+00:002008-01-29T18:15:00.000+00:00The real lesson of Jeremy Thorpe and his legal tro...The real lesson of Jeremy Thorpe and his legal troubles was that the Establishment are damned good at circling their wagons around one of their own.Stan Bullhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05955961163910010638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-18690068149071743192008-01-29T16:33:00.000+00:002008-01-29T16:33:00.000+00:00I would heartily recommend the late Auberon Waugh'...I would heartily recommend the late Auberon Waugh's book "The Last Word" on that trial.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-70024813569053881162008-01-29T14:59:00.000+00:002008-01-29T14:59:00.000+00:00We have to wait for Tharg to die so that someone c...We have to wait for Tharg to die so that someone can write the full story of Rinka, without a libel writ. On the other hand, Wislon and Heath have both died, and nobody seems to written up all the juicy scandals involving their private lives, either. It hardly seems worth outliving scoundrels.<BR/><BR/>Clothilde SimonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-41626536371584501332008-01-29T10:54:00.000+00:002008-01-29T10:54:00.000+00:00he wasn't as nice as he was made outhe wasn't as nice as he was made outAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-30937364400937710352008-01-29T10:38:00.000+00:002008-01-29T10:38:00.000+00:00I cannot think of Jeremy Thrope without recalling ...I cannot think of Jeremy Thrope without recalling Peter Cook's sketch "Entirely A Matter For You" and the famous "self-confessed player of the pink oboe". The full sketch is <A HREF="http://www.phespirit.info/pictures/heroes/p008_info.htm" REL="nofollow"><BR/>here</A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-58513326880068473992008-01-29T10:23:00.000+00:002008-01-29T10:23:00.000+00:00That name rings a bell, everyone at the local scho...That name rings a bell, everyone at the local school in 70's had 'Norman bites pillows ok!' written on their school books.Philipahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03440234602399886097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-74613571048444571532008-01-29T10:15:00.000+00:002008-01-29T10:15:00.000+00:00Gosh nine years since you published that book! I ...Gosh nine years since you published that book! I am sure I was at the launch at the shop. Where does all the time go...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05783725666410626346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-52689378336950721392008-01-29T10:01:00.000+00:002008-01-29T10:01:00.000+00:00Quote from interview: Although Thorpe did agree wi...Quote from interview: Although Thorpe did agree with Heath on Europe - "without the Liberal vote they wouldn't have had the majority [to get into Europe]. <BR/><BR/>Thanks, Jeremy, you and your mob really did us a big favour there (not).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-17689403224455707132008-01-29T09:50:00.000+00:002008-01-29T09:50:00.000+00:00Although I am stupid and self-satisfied (according...Although I am stupid and self-satisfied (according to the fragrant Verity), may I offer this piece of experience. One may be friends with people with whose political views one disagrees and also with people who have broken rules or laws. Thank goodness for the warm illogicality of friendship that sees beyond puritan rectitude or flock membership.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358349301959327747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-39055489882799216882008-01-29T09:43:00.000+00:002008-01-29T09:43:00.000+00:00Are you a friend of Nigel Watersons too Iain?Are you a friend of Nigel Watersons too Iain?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-29911871156920540892008-01-29T08:44:00.000+00:002008-01-29T08:44:00.000+00:00What a charming man...and Ian Huntley was so good ...What a charming man...and Ian Huntley was so good to his dog...Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15755490516141328662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-38455568753041627362008-01-29T08:18:00.000+00:002008-01-29T08:18:00.000+00:00So as a 'friend' of Derek Conway could you tell me...So as a 'friend' of Derek Conway could you tell me how many more of his spawn am I supporting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44963007322656456302008-01-29T08:08:00.000+00:002008-01-29T08:08:00.000+00:00I assume Iain you are not seeking any further Cons...I assume Iain you are not seeking any further Conservative party nominations for MP, As with what you are saying in recent posts brings out your true vocation. The church is short of ministers, and your fogiving attitude would well qualify you for a ministry, or perhaps not.<BR/><BR/>You do not sound like a Thather supporter at all.Johnny Norfolkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16900659617233793880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-26460533835593907772008-01-29T07:40:00.000+00:002008-01-29T07:40:00.000+00:00There is a warning for some of today's leaders fro...There is a warning for some of today's leaders from the Thorpe story. He was priviledged and clever. Eton and Oxford. Talented and ambitious and well-connected. MP at 30, Party leader at the age of 38. Liked by the media and engaging in his public face. Superb public speaker...<BR/><BR/>... but he failed because of hubris - the fatal flaw of some who begin to think that they can walk on water.Paddy Briggshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17847108655078927970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-33161698959967692992008-01-29T07:36:00.000+00:002008-01-29T07:36:00.000+00:00My sister felt the same about him, on account of h...My sister felt the same about him, on account of his 'nice eyes'. Pathetic.Rush-is-Righthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12860467341217977185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-50116384955447632172008-01-29T02:21:00.000+00:002008-01-29T02:21:00.000+00:00I am sure Thorpe has many fascinating political me...I am sure Thorpe has many fascinating political memories; but how could one ever believe a word he says? Anyone who is inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt should read Simon Freeman and Barrie Penrose, Rinkagate: The Rise and Fall of Jeremy Thorpe. Details here:<BR/><BR/>http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rinkagate-Rise-Fall-Jeremy-Thorpe/dp/0747533393Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-11389988853765342132008-01-29T02:13:00.000+00:002008-01-29T02:13:00.000+00:00To be called "a Jeremy" was a slur when I was at s...To be called "a Jeremy" was a slur when I was at school. I think you know why. Thorpe would've fitted in well today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-32888304349308838462008-01-29T01:24:00.000+00:002008-01-29T01:24:00.000+00:00Iain are you having a bad judgement day? First yo...Iain are you having a bad judgement day? First you defend Conway and now Thorpe. Both are, for different reasons, crooks. I am sure Thorpe is nice and a pleasure to deal with. Perhaps Norman Scott thought the same once, not to mention his dog! Have a stiff nightcap and get to bed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-84566259877175616592008-01-29T01:08:00.000+00:002008-01-29T01:08:00.000+00:00Indeed, he is certainly compos mentis; his advice ...Indeed, he is certainly<I> compos mentis</I>; his advice to us Lib Dems to be wary of parties offering coalition is sound: ' . . I think the Tories are desperate, defeated twice already. And they are ruthless beasts . . '<BR/><BR/>Are you ruthless? Or toothless? I wonder and so do many Lib Dems.rob's unclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03001074396029714388noreply@blogger.com