tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post91895099970144180..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Tatchell to Present Channel 4 Pope DocumentaryIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-75055249897760145932010-06-07T23:48:42.377+01:002010-06-07T23:48:42.377+01:00Laurence,
I haven't read TGD but according to ...Laurence,<br />I haven't read TGD but according to a posting by The Western Confucian, the relevant pages (in which Dawkins also wonders whether the Catholic Church has been 'unfairly demonized'), are 315-6.tempus putationishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08717989265190251148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-20860385294801947572010-06-07T18:39:31.518+01:002010-06-07T18:39:31.518+01:00Will he interview Richard Dawkins about his having...<i>Will he interview Richard Dawkins about his having been sexually abused as a child, which he describes in The God Delusion as "an embarrassing but otherwise harmless experience"?</i><br /><br />I fear you might be mistaken there David. Would you care to provide a page number of TGD to back this up?Laurence Boycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17838530535994771528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4874606151410606482010-06-05T23:47:38.349+01:002010-06-05T23:47:38.349+01:00Will Peter Tatchell's Channel Four programme o...Will Peter Tatchell's Channel Four programme on the Pope mention Tatchell's campaign to lower the age of consent to 14, and his occasional public expressions of his true view, which is that the age of consent should be abolished altogether? Even Harriet Harman's Paedophile Information Exchange thought that it should be four. But that won't do for Tatchell.<br /><br />Will Tatchell interview Stephen Fry about <em>The Liar</em> and <em>The Hippopotamus</em>? Will he interview Germaine Greer about <em>The Boy</em>? Will he interview Richard Dawkins about his having been sexually abused as a child, which he describes in <em>The God Delusion</em> as "an embarrassing but otherwise harmless experience"? Will he interview Philip Pullman about how is celebrated trilogy ends with sexual intercourse between two children aged about 12, and about his repeated bemoaning of the lack of sexual content in the Narnia novels?<br /><br />Will Tatchell interview anyone from the numerous Social Services Departments that ran homes in which, at the same time as the Church was hushing up sex between men and teenage boys on the part of a small number of priests - and thus, however imperfectly, indicating disapproval of it - such behaviour was absolutely endemic, with major figures in that world publishing academic studies, used for many years in the training of social workers, which presented it as positively beneficial to both parties and therefore actively to be encouraged?<br /><br />Will Tatchell interview anyone from the Police, who long ago stopped enforcing the age of consent from 13 upwards, perhaps even asking them to explain for exactly whose benefit they adopted the present approach, a question also hanging over their non-enforcement of the drugs laws?<br /><br />And will Tatchell interview anyone from Channel Four, the dramatic output of which has waged, and continues to wage, a relentless campaign in favour of sex between men and teenage boys? Remember, we own Channel Four.David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-43812976515561098592010-06-05T17:34:43.840+01:002010-06-05T17:34:43.840+01:00Channel 4 confuses Roman Catholisism with Christia...Channel 4 confuses Roman Catholisism with Christianity which is why they used Ann Widdicomb and Cherie Blair (appalling - all about herself (CB) not the subject.They also did a programme which would have been more credible had it been presented by a scholarly Christian instead of the clever (and opiniated) Bettany Hughes maliciously wearing a muslim necklace.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14203194933582263389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-53639117542356898832010-06-05T13:17:09.106+01:002010-06-05T13:17:09.106+01:00Stephen,
Thanks for calling me a "Blog Moron...Stephen,<br /><br />Thanks for calling me a "Blog Moron". I might in fact begin to use it as a username!<br /><br />I am vehemently against the lowering of the age of consent but not for religious or moral reasons. 14 year old are children and therefore should be seen and protected as such.<br /><br />You don't do irony, do you? I thinks it is ironic that Peter Thatchell (an individual who wants to legally allow adults to have sex with 14 year old children) should do a documentary on a Pope who is being accused of protecting paedophiles.<br /><br />And this is nothing to do with his being gay so I resent that you imply that it is. I don't want 14 yr old boys or girls fiddled with.<br /><br />PS: You critisism of Iain is totally unfounded & unfair.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13928365498735989685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-84263904007002761322010-06-05T12:48:29.312+01:002010-06-05T12:48:29.312+01:00@ Stephen
Sensitive little soul, aren't you? ...@ Stephen<br /><br />Sensitive little soul, aren't you? I'm sure there are many who can give you a few hints about how not to be so deeply offended.Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-6215050236587237352010-06-05T12:24:37.537+01:002010-06-05T12:24:37.537+01:00After 25 years of opposing Tatchell politically I ...After 25 years of opposing Tatchell politically I know at least he seems to be a highly honourable individual who will always give his own objective and consistent appraisal of the good and the bad.<br /><br />I'm deeply sorry that one of your blog morons has posted a disgusting and libellous claim suggesting Peter's motivations on thne age of consent are towards child molestation. Shameful. Utterly shameful.<br /><br />I'm becoming deeply uncomfortable with the way Iain Dale is increasingly exploiting the names of his gay political opponents as scraps of meat for spiteful and homophobic elements of his readership to feed off.<br /><br />If this blog is to be the 'Daley' Mail, part serious journalism, but part visceral hatred, propaganda and obcene lies then this small c conservative will stop coming. <br /><br />I avoid the gutter press for a good reason and I am deeply shocked this morning at the filth I have read here.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01952550278660027732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-35444383250812830712010-06-05T12:18:30.209+01:002010-06-05T12:18:30.209+01:00According to Wikipedia:'Tatchell has been heav...According to Wikipedia:'Tatchell has been heavily critical of the Catholic Church and Pope Benedict XVI, whom he describes as "the ideological inheritor of Nazi homophobia".[citation needed]<br /><br />So he's very impartial.Gerry57https://www.blogger.com/profile/04992247213876699939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-23898760993129061662010-06-05T10:46:36.083+01:002010-06-05T10:46:36.083+01:00It's on Channel4! So if footy or a Cowell prod...It's on Channel4! So if footy or a Cowell production is on at the same time few will see it... move on nothing here...Julian Brayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199331063397553707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2129905279045379872010-06-05T09:47:54.771+01:002010-06-05T09:47:54.771+01:00@ Kevin
'interestingly'?
How/why?@ Kevin<br /><br />'interestingly'?<br /><br /><br />How/why?Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87110140800908184062010-06-05T00:54:36.009+01:002010-06-05T00:54:36.009+01:00Why is Robert in this country? I don't want hi...Why is Robert in this country? I don't want him here.Henry Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00447003961256484619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-51403467194076934752010-06-04T21:40:29.956+01:002010-06-04T21:40:29.956+01:00Why is the Pope coming to this country? I don'...Why is the Pope coming to this country? I don't want him here.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12146467728776928724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-18783270067244279382010-06-04T19:33:24.270+01:002010-06-04T19:33:24.270+01:00No offence to Channel 4, but Ian Paisley would hav...No offence to Channel 4, but Ian Paisley would have been a much better choice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-6463683718701298412010-06-04T17:08:18.697+01:002010-06-04T17:08:18.697+01:00Should we perhaps exchange the word "Document...Should we perhaps exchange the word "Documentary" for the phrase "hatchet job"?James Burdetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04023338351348066767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-77454182317217273642010-06-04T16:36:45.210+01:002010-06-04T16:36:45.210+01:00interestingly i am a catholic but at the same time...interestingly i am a catholic but at the same time a big fan of peter tatchell.<br /><br />despite his campaigning i have always found him a man that is NOT bigoted in his view on life.<br /><br />more than i can say for our present PopeDanny Lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08789209821773052718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-49324447152790838482010-06-04T16:18:48.106+01:002010-06-04T16:18:48.106+01:00As Tatchell supports the lowering of the age of co...As Tatchell supports the lowering of the age of consent so that he and his friends can fiddle with 14 year old children, he is probably a good choice.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13928365498735989685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-47203837052202502842010-06-04T15:48:28.867+01:002010-06-04T15:48:28.867+01:00@Wrinkled Weasel
Quite right. √√√@Wrinkled Weasel<br />Quite right. √√√Simon Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17189501697856123305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-48292423235645638092010-06-04T15:30:19.046+01:002010-06-04T15:30:19.046+01:00Peter Tatchell is a lot less hate-filled about Cat...Peter Tatchell is a lot less hate-filled about Catholicism than Simon Gardner.<br /><br />In fact, Tatchell does not do hate, he does outrage. There is a difference.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63639293249960137302010-06-04T15:24:36.949+01:002010-06-04T15:24:36.949+01:00Frankly, having Peter Tatchell present a programme...Frankly, having Peter Tatchell present a programme on the pope is no more laughable than having Anne Widdecombe present a programme about Christianity.<br /><br />Hopefully Tatchell will make as good TV as Widdecombe did. I'm sure most adults will be able to spot any subjective flourishes.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09523255925908875475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-12903293462786130742010-06-04T15:10:20.910+01:002010-06-04T15:10:20.910+01:00I loathe religion. It’s all utter complete superst...I loathe religion. It’s all utter complete superstitious twaddle. But some religions are more harmful than others. <br /><br />There are two great nasty, fascist religions on the planet: catholicism and islam.<br /><br />Good luck C4. I’ve already written to the channel wishing them well with their excellent project.<br /><br />But the ‘arrest the pope’ idea still has its cheerleaders.Simon Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17189501697856123305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-41332094627978888742010-06-04T14:55:48.587+01:002010-06-04T14:55:48.587+01:00What's the betting Tatchell's programme(wh...What's the betting Tatchell's programme(which might be quite good, who knows) is marketed as 'controversial'?<br /><br />Programme makers are obsessed with controversy. That's why they prefer to engineer debates (on any topic) from opposite ends of the spectrum instead of well-informed, thoughtful discussion.<br /><br />Best of all, they love it when the debate turns into a row.Trumpeter Lanfriedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03098959760276109152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-75062355558995471492010-06-04T14:52:06.988+01:002010-06-04T14:52:06.988+01:00I love this quote from the aforementioned Ann Widd...I love <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/7801076/Catholics-blast-hostile-C4-film-about-the-Pope.html" rel="nofollow">this quote</a> from the aforementioned Ann Widdecombe: "Mr Tatchell certainly won't be sympathetic to his subject, so what's the point of doing it?"<br /><br />Quite right Ann. Documentary makers should always be sympathetic to their subject. Otherwise there's no point.Laurence Boycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17838530535994771528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-12939938534846981692010-06-04T14:44:08.557+01:002010-06-04T14:44:08.557+01:00Really Simon? I work in the place and I never saw...Really Simon? I work in the place and I never saw the Pope leaning on a counter, let alone anyone else. I doubt if he even knows who Nadine Dorries is. Do grow up will you?Lady Finchleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03695379463537122656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4072075120464828642010-06-04T14:25:37.024+01:002010-06-04T14:25:37.024+01:00Simon Gardner
What twaddle you write about mass m...Simon Gardner<br /><br />What twaddle you write about mass murder and condoms. The majority of Christian churches hold the view that sex should only be within marriage. If that particular teaching had been followed the spread of any sexually transmitted disease would have been greatly reduced. Unfortunately, the habit/tradition of promiscuity exacerbated the whole situation<br /><br />The idea that a devout Catholic is not going to use a condom because the Pope say so whilst being unfaithful to their spouse is deeply flawed. <br /><br />I remember see a TV report from Africa about prostitutes and lorry drivers. Both party knew about the risk of AIDS but the men did not want to use a condom and were prepared to pay more not to do so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-59819958354732793392010-06-04T14:00:48.046+01:002010-06-04T14:00:48.046+01:00Scary Biscuits, if this C4 programme bashes the Ch...Scary Biscuits, if this C4 programme bashes the Church, the targets are likely to be the Church's attitude to gays, to priestly celibacy, to female priests and to contraception in AIDS-riddled Africa. And you have the gall to describe the documentary makers as "backward forces".Steve Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15992098012803570361noreply@blogger.com