tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post8335532211588099897..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Unite Against Fascism Are as "Fascist" as the BNPIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger194125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-34725265184641888342009-11-01T22:06:36.821+00:002009-11-01T22:06:36.821+00:00Canvas said "Oh by the way Iain I guess you k...Canvas said "Oh by the way Iain I guess you know that you'll be spammed by hundreds of anon BNP supporters..."<br /><br />Given the distinct possibility of being on the receiving end of violence from the fascist anti-fascits if one admits to being a BNP supporter, I don't blame BNP supporters for remaining anonymous.Ralph Musgravehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09443857766263185665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-91781259360076511482009-06-18T20:56:45.580+01:002009-06-18T20:56:45.580+01:00The UAF group is a front organization for hardline...The UAF group is a front organization for hardline socialists. I figured this out in about five seconds using wikipedia. Bascially if any organization describes itself as 'anti-fascist (ANTIFA)' or 'against racism' you can bet they are actually international communists on their best behavior. Again, use a search engine. Just as many dug up dirt on the BNP, its time people dug up dirt on the 'anti-fascist' left.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-81662191250488263852009-06-17T23:53:19.020+01:002009-06-17T23:53:19.020+01:00Ian as much as I don't agree with your posts, ...Ian as much as I don't agree with your posts, being a BNP supporter, I do like the fact you are standing up for free speech.<br /><br />So well done in that respective.Billy Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03342998596434831578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-67342785938976872402009-06-12T17:44:06.431+01:002009-06-12T17:44:06.431+01:00Ian you are such a prat the BNP articulate what ma...Ian you are such a prat the BNP articulate what many think in the England.<br />So they did not do well in London, no wonder there are hardly any English people left there to vote for the BNP.<br />Get over the usual insults against them nearly a million voted for them for saying exactly what they believe doh! its called democracy.lushlaroohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11292378470960321921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-20286592466938099282009-06-12T11:18:22.693+01:002009-06-12T11:18:22.693+01:00I agree with you, at least I think I do. I could ...I agree with you, at least I think I do. I could not vote BNP, apart from anything else what do we know of their policies for health, education, defence?<br /><br />The Conservatives and Labour have no moral ground to slag them off so violently - not just the "hands in the till" expenses scandal.<br /><br />Thatcher sold off many of the Nation's assets with privatisation to cover debt. Brown has put us up to our necks in debt and Blair took us into two illegal wars which have resulted in the deaths of more than a million, and millions more displaced.<br /><br />What a bunch. The BNP has not had a chance to prove its dishonesty yet.Tony from Middlesexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-90752456178703181992009-06-11T17:41:03.377+01:002009-06-11T17:41:03.377+01:00UAF lists their supporters on their blog & the...UAF lists their supporters on their blog & they are basicly civil service unions (I am particularly disgusted that teachers are funding these thugs). Unions get government money & civil service unions exist on their government pull so this makes UAF pretty much a government quango masquerading as a fakecharity. Considering that the absent police are also government employees & so are the BBC who so supportively reported it. <br /><br />I am worried & not about the BNP.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-31828929206929318932009-06-10T21:40:11.468+01:002009-06-10T21:40:11.468+01:00UAF are a bunch of criminals. They use the word fa...UAF are a bunch of criminals. They use the word fascist&nazi all the time. They even see social-democrats are fascist, but a bit better then ordinary fascist, thus social-fascist.<br /><br />These "anti-fascist" criminals killed Pim Fortuyn in Holland. <br /><br />Why would Cameron support them? Scared of the label "fascist"? Probably.Dutchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54318459906262405032009-06-10T20:52:46.004+01:002009-06-10T20:52:46.004+01:00It's time Unite Against Fascism were BANNED by...It's time Unite Against Fascism were BANNED by the Home Secretary. <br /><br />These leftwing extremists resort to violence time and time again.<br /><br />Forget the BNP. These thugs are the REAL THREAT to our democracy!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-30596582253116958052009-06-10T19:55:18.206+01:002009-06-10T19:55:18.206+01:00Winston Churchill
Neither - I'd spoil my bal...Winston Churchill <br /><br />Neither - I'd spoil my ballot !peter_dtmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13460191996831709814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-20736402973646947922009-06-10T19:45:04.565+01:002009-06-10T19:45:04.565+01:00the Unite Against Fascism member who said "ri...the Unite Against Fascism member who said "right to free speech except for fascists....should have said "right to free speeech except for racists"<br /><br />Does that include hook man and his rebel rousers spouting death to the west with their police protection? Shame the unite against fascist cant take this kind action against the muslims extremist as well because i tell you one thing being black blue white or orange, i'd feel safer with the so called racist BNP than the Muslim extremists around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-43265256874050852972009-06-10T19:43:05.712+01:002009-06-10T19:43:05.712+01:00Question? Has the BNP left their extremist past b...Question? Has the BNP left their extremist past behind them and genuinely changed?<br /><br />Question? Who would you vote for, given the choice between UAF and BNP?Winston Churchillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08069027191905262017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87114704488578023582009-06-10T19:28:57.142+01:002009-06-10T19:28:57.142+01:00"Fascist is a word which is thrown around a l..."Fascist is a word which is thrown around a lot by the left, mostly by people who haven't got a clue what the word means."<br /><br />Iain, have you no sense of irony whatsoever?Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07801341846218646357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-36786007148894646442009-06-10T18:33:05.849+01:002009-06-10T18:33:05.849+01:00and don't ever forget; like or hate the bnp th...and don't ever forget; like or hate the bnp they are already ILLEGALLY discriminated against by the Fire Service & the Police Service - not to mention all those other Public Service & QuANGO bodies that illegally discriminate against BNP members by refusing to employ them.<br /><br />Why don't they treat the communists the same; or even better STOP DISCRIMINATING on POLITICAL GROUNDS<br /><br />Personally I don't think any SWP member should be allowed any where near a civil service or quango job; but in this democracy I don't have that option; what gives these ignorant fascist yobs the right to break UK Law ??peter_dtmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13460191996831709814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-7943045271435244682009-06-10T17:53:43.941+01:002009-06-10T17:53:43.941+01:00Grassy I think the Newsnight piece was disgraceful...Grassy I think the Newsnight piece was disgraceful. It is completely improper to have a "debate" involving the UAF fascist & a LibDim politician both attacking the BNP without allowing them a response. I would hope everybody here would object if Newsnight did a piece on how members of the Labour party are genocidal child raping Nazis (even though they are) in which they were not allowed to defend themselves.<br /><br />I have put this point on Newsnight's site & like yours, it was banned too. That it is the state owned taxpayer funded broadcaster that is engaging in such blatant party bias & supporting of criminality is particularly disturbing, as is the invisibility of the police around Parliament when their is violence going on.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-3966484649952890212009-06-10T17:40:48.158+01:002009-06-10T17:40:48.158+01:00I looked at the UAF website, because I was curious...I looked at the UAF website, because I was curious about their definition of the term 'fascism'.<br /><br />No luck. It seems they don't think it necessary to give any definition of the thing they are united against.<br /><br />That tells me all I need to know about the calibre of these people.Bartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72837676475303226992009-06-10T17:20:53.147+01:002009-06-10T17:20:53.147+01:00Iain I completely agree with everything you just s...Iain I completely agree with everything you just said! Thank you for voicing this on the internet for me.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15864370894254271929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-39296086319432033262009-06-10T17:01:32.534+01:002009-06-10T17:01:32.534+01:00You're spot on Iain . You couldn't get a c...You're spot on Iain . You couldn't get a cigarette paper between the BNP and their Bolshie opponents .<br /><br />I had a suspicion that they may actually be trying to make the BNP look victimised . A latter-day Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact , perhaps ? Or am I taking that too far ?<br /><br />Anonymous mentioned the "Scottish Liberation Army" by which I take it he means this mob of ineffective clowns -<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_National_Liberation_Army<br /><br />If Griffin was as stupid and inept as this gang of Dublin-resident "freedom fighters", he'd have spent the last 20 years in gaol . <br /><br />Also , it's rather insulting to Scots to say that they have created some some sort of "protection zone" from English inward immigration because of the infrequent antics of these Wolfie Smith wannabes . It's also , simply , untrue .<br /><br />Oh , and Canvas "Goodbye , Dolly!"The Young Oligarchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00043892251035601945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-15145291452263552142009-06-10T16:48:16.986+01:002009-06-10T16:48:16.986+01:00I'm gay but I totally disagree with these tact...I'm gay but I totally disagree with these tactics whether they supposedly benefit me or not (and the days of bullying LGBT people into automatically supporting Labour are over). <br /><br />It is not for an unelected mob to decide to override what happens in a democratic election. Nor to choose to deny an elected politican the right to do an interview on Parliament Green where every other politician does it. <br /><br />No doubt the protest yesterday made some of the participants feel good about themselves and raised the personal profile of some cynical individuals. But it was a protest to whom? To the people who voted BNP? What do you think some of them will think seeing a bunch of scruffy 'lefties' behaving like this? <br /><br />In all it was a huge propaganda victory for the BNP as it lets them claim victim status. Which they are already doing by claiming that whites are the victims of discrimination in this country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-42414270546455747802009-06-10T16:20:52.758+01:002009-06-10T16:20:52.758+01:00Canvas:
Knock it on the head - you're making a...Canvas:<br />Knock it on the head - you're making a fool of yourself.JPThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00796856414981086841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-45875727343280440112009-06-10T14:48:43.999+01:002009-06-10T14:48:43.999+01:00Frankly, UAF and BNP deserve each other.
One goo...Frankly, UAF and BNP deserve each other. <br /><br />One good thing that might come out of Sunday night's results is that Griffin and his mob will have to be given the opportunity to appear more often on TV and radio. The great British public will see this infantile shower for what they really are.<br /><br />Rather than denying the BNP a platform we should give them every chance to speak and take every opportunity to question them.<br /><br />Barmbrook, Brons and Griffin may appear 'credible' but the talent pool at BNP is very shallow. Sooner or later the mask will slip.LittleLordFauntleroynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-89553926555278297582009-06-10T14:33:34.482+01:002009-06-10T14:33:34.482+01:00Ha! D'Liberal, socialists may not much like na...Ha! D'Liberal, socialists may not much like nation (if you mean by that a moist affection for the homeland) but they <i>love</i> them some gubmint. Mussolini's <i>fascismo</i> was a sort of play on words between <i>fascio</i> (union) and the <i>fasces</i> -- that bundle of sticks wrapped around an axe that was a Roman symbol of the power of the state. The Nazis, the Fascists and the BNP (and, of course, the socialists) are all up with state control of industry.<br /><br />So it all depends on how you define left and right.S. Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17081301454448509736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-91838581943727238422009-06-10T13:39:24.473+01:002009-06-10T13:39:24.473+01:00Funnily enough I got banned from the BBC blog for ...Funnily enough I got banned from the BBC blog for making this point exactly. The BNP are a legitimate, elected party, regardless of whether or not the majority agree with their policies a.k.a democracy in action.<br /><br />Newsnight was superb on this point last night with that tube from UAF claiming the BNP should be banned, ignored etc. He was promptly kicked into touch by Mr Paxman (whose disgust was obvious) and that nice Lib Dem fella.<br /><br />An interesting point- why did the police not get involved? This was not a peaceful protest and could easily be brought within the parameters of assault. <br /><br />The only thing these preening shits succeeded in doing is making people feel sorry for Mr Griffin's plight at the hands of the big bad establishment.GrassyKnollingtonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87268279102429232892009-06-10T13:23:56.363+01:002009-06-10T13:23:56.363+01:00In Liverpool the UAF group had a spontaneous demon...In Liverpool the UAF group had a spontaneous demonstration which then marched to the BBC radio merseyside building to protest about the amount of coverage given to the BNP. Brilliant. Protesting about coverage by creating a story that would give them more!!!<br /><br />I've been on demos against racism myself. And I was threatened by two thugs while out delivering anti BNP leaflets - so I know what I feel about this. But you cannot defeat this party by these sort of stunts. They need to be beaten either by exposing their work and arguments for what they are, or dealing with the underlying problems causing people to mistakenly vote for them (and by that I mean dealing with poverty and bad housing not cracking down on "foreigners")Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57574740834474977522009-06-10T12:41:53.049+01:002009-06-10T12:41:53.049+01:00Well said Iain, more than often than not the left ...Well said Iain, more than often than not the left cause more trouble than the right.<br />It's just stupid kids basicly.Magical_Misthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07446193963152993371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-81502109473454265792009-06-10T12:17:19.491+01:002009-06-10T12:17:19.491+01:00"Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and th..."Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com