tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post7934904642800852566..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Welcome to Mount Rushmore on SeaIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-304755980689396882007-02-21T13:18:00.000+00:002007-02-21T13:18:00.000+00:00NatienkaRegarding the warming you have seen in you...Natienka<BR/>Regarding the warming you have seen in your lifetime <BR/><BR/>1) Nobody denies that there has been a period of warming from roughly 1980 to 1999 (with cooling before, warming prior to 1940, & a marginal decline since 1999). This is a very small change, well within historic norms & in no way a sign of a warming which is catastrophic or even damaging in nature.<BR/><BR/>2) Most of us live in urban areas & see what is known as the heat island effect in that there are an awful lot of houses, lights, factories giving off heat. This effect is obviously growing indeed Manchester is measured as being 7 C above the surrounding rural areas.<BR/><BR/>Pete - 1 scientist - Preofessor Fred Singer <BR/>www.sepp.org/<BR/><BR/>17,000 of them<BR/>http://www.oism.org/pproject/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-47442974505374524772007-02-21T12:19:00.000+00:002007-02-21T12:19:00.000+00:00Damn! A upswing in the gratuitous interweb beefcak...Damn! A upswing in the gratuitous interweb beefcake quotient. But never fear, rest assured the sterling techies at the Remittance Man's blog will endeavour to restore balance as soon as he gets home from work.<BR/><BR/>By the way, there is a marvelous way to profit all this scaremongering: Acquire yourself a peice of sloping downland, a few miles from Brighton. Get planning permission for a tropical resort and sit back waiting for the waves come rolling in.<BR/><BR/>If the seas do rise, you've got a head start on the other developers. And if it don't, find a sucker who still believes in all the scary stories and sell him the place at a profit. Sounds like a win-win situation (for me at least).<BR/><BR/>By the way: my word verification was iboyz. Do you think the machines are developing a sense of humour?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-69012432624245187222007-02-20T22:40:00.000+00:002007-02-20T22:40:00.000+00:00macles - Weather cycles go in hundreds of years. ...macles - Weather cycles go in hundreds of years. Not faddish attention-bites. Yet do you remember 20 years ago, all the warnings about global cooling? Mass hunger because nothing would grow! Africa would freeze over! People would <I>die</I> of hunger. Those who didn't die of hunger would freeze to death! We had to stop manufacturing or whatever it was they disapproved of or have all these deaths on our consciences.<BR/><BR/>Oh well, global cooling was 20 years ago and that didn't work, so now we have global warming. Maybe that'll work to get capitalism killed off.<BR/><BR/>Just before global cooling, do you remember the shock of the predictions that "we only have enough petroleum to last another 20 years"? Advanced economies would collapse! People would die of starvation! (It is currently estimated that we have enough proven reserves for 150 years and we'll be off petroleum long before then.) We hadn't begun work on alternative sources soon enough! People would die of petroleum starvation! <BR/><BR/>And just before the end of petroleum, I can just remember the population explosion! Paul Erlich predicted it and wrote a book. People would die! There would be mass starvation because there would be too many people and the planet couldn't produce enough food for everyone!<BR/><BR/>All these cataclysmic predictions in 30 years. Wow! I feel dizzy!<BR/><BR/>Global warming, now so risible that they have changed it to "climate change" ... doesn't the left ever shut up?<BR/><BR/>Anonymous 7:11 - Oh, I didn't realise. I don't remember a bar of chocolate called Cabana, but then, I don't much care for chocolate, so it may not have entered my consciousness.<BR/><BR/>PS - If it's warming up globally, why was it so cold here, in the tropics, this morning that I had to put on a long-sleeved t-shirt plus a heavy turtle-necked pullover? The locals don't have clothes for such cold and were walking around huddled up and shivering. At least it was Mardi Gras so they could warm up by dancing with vigour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-39963042419467224142007-02-20T19:56:00.000+00:002007-02-20T19:56:00.000+00:00Guys, stop going down on Verity. Global warming is...Guys, stop going down on Verity. Global warming is a win-win for sad bastard like me living in the north. I want an orangery and some decent vines.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-91706804919394494972007-02-20T19:55:00.000+00:002007-02-20T19:55:00.000+00:00OoooooH! Seems like some nice boys!OoooooH! Seems like some nice boys!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-83169869644000093232007-02-20T19:12:00.000+00:002007-02-20T19:12:00.000+00:00Doesn't Kyoto (even if you forget about the Chines...Doesn't Kyoto (even if you forget about the Chinese and Indian CO2) mean that the sea levels won't rise to their predicted 2150 levels till 2153?Old BEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06974090439936326476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-48155228689005084442007-02-20T19:11:00.000+00:002007-02-20T19:11:00.000+00:00Verity - sorry, it was an english joke, as 'Cabana...Verity - sorry, it was an english joke, as 'Cabana' was the name of a chocolate bar by Cadbury's which has now been discontinued. Had cherry flavour in them. <BR/><BR/>macles, <BR/>"why are you posting arrant nonsense revealing your complete and utter ignorance of any part of the scientific understanding of past or present climate change/earth science in general?" <BR/><BR/>In answer to your question, verity likes to be known as a 'climate change denier' - it's what she does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-61646351855809452812007-02-20T18:41:00.000+00:002007-02-20T18:41:00.000+00:00maclesYou wonderfully show that the line between e...macles<BR/>You wonderfully show that the line between education and brainwashing is a very very fine one indead.<BR/><BR/>When yours was washed, did it hurt?<BR/><BR/>If not. Was it a case of no feeling therefore no sense. Or was it more no sense, therefore no feeling?<BR/><BR/>After we have spent the next thirty years or so still shivering waiting at the bus stop. Whilst the slump in the worlds econemy, due to your "education," has caused the deaths of tens of millions. What will you and your comrades do then?<BR/><BR/>Find some other sky is falling down bullshit in which to controll, intimidate and steal from the masses. Or just say sorrrrrrryyyy?<BR/><BR/>Personaly I would rather run a small risk of possibly, slowly, and at some time in the distant future, getting screwed by mother nature. Then let you or Gordon Brown bugger the merry hell out of me right now.<BR/><BR/>Just how much is it worth paying, so that you dont have to move your sunbed a few yards up the beach, even if one day you needed to?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-14285533391195444282007-02-20T18:07:00.000+00:002007-02-20T18:07:00.000+00:00The top pic is FTM and the bottom one is MTF....am...The top pic is FTM and the bottom one is MTF....amazing surgeryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-42933476363626079392007-02-20T17:43:00.000+00:002007-02-20T17:43:00.000+00:00peteblogging - Nope. I'm not an obsessive. I rea...peteblogging - Nope. I'm not an obsessive. I read and see programmes, but don't take notes. I do, however, remember the content of what was discussed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-38173092861816639232007-02-20T17:34:00.000+00:002007-02-20T17:34:00.000+00:00VerityNo names of "REAL SCIENTISTS" then?Verity<BR/><BR/>No names of "REAL SCIENTISTS" then?peteblogginghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06212058699026559980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-51031378543477448412007-02-20T17:28:00.000+00:002007-02-20T17:28:00.000+00:00macles - Yawn. You lefty obsessives are repetitiv...macles - Yawn. <BR/><BR/>You lefty obsessives are repetitive and dull. I don't care what dingbat lefty bearded scientists have to say because they have an agenda: anti-progress, anti-capitalim and a contracting global economy.<BR/><BR/>No offence, Macles: thanks, but no thanks - (in the American sense, meaning, not in a million years).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76987602303160664912007-02-20T17:09:00.000+00:002007-02-20T17:09:00.000+00:00No offence Verity, but why don't you go to school ...No offence Verity, but why don't you go to school (in the american sense, meaning a university) rather than badly parsing what you think 'real earth scientists' have said. As a 'real earth scientist' myself, you could be quite a challenge in teaching terms, but maybe have some potential.<BR/><BR/>'Gradual onset of Ice Ages causing the dinosaur extinction event?' Well, it was still a damn site warmer than today when the dinosaurs toddled off. You might want to examine all the mechanisms causing very long wavelength climate change since the end of the Cretaceous. Good book is 'The great Ice Age' - Open University Press.<BR/><BR/>I cannot help you with 'fierce activity (or otherwise) of the sun' either but suggest you read up on Milankovitch cycles and their influence on the solar component of climate forcing. <BR/><BR/>20 foot sea-level rise is guaranteed if the Greenland Ice Sheet melts in its entirety. Northern hemisphere ice sheets are set to go first under warming conditions. The rate at which they melt, and how the rate at which they melt further influences warming is still poorly understood however. Significant melting of the Greenland Ice Sheet cannot be ruled out if (when) projected temperature increases come to pass. Some melting is already inevitable.<BR/><BR/>Finally, I should point out, no credible earth scientist would contend that additional CO2 in the atmosphere is anything other than a climate forcing mechanism. Anthropogenic CO2 additions to the atmosphere total about 200 billion tons until today, or if you like, they have raised CO2 levels by ~100 ppm. CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere are higher now than at any time in the Pleistocene. This is not a natural phenomena. It is the result of our industrial activity of the past 150 years (but mostly the past 50).macleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10744781349665009240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88176888254386773102007-02-20T16:59:00.000+00:002007-02-20T16:59:00.000+00:00Verity"I'm reporting on what I have read REAL SCIE...Verity<BR/><BR/>"I'm reporting on what I have read REAL SCIENTISTS - as opposed to a Harvard law school dropout and failed presidential candidate - opine."<BR/><BR/>Care to name any of these REAL SCIENTISTS?peteblogginghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06212058699026559980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4101472480097648592007-02-20T16:12:00.000+00:002007-02-20T16:12:00.000+00:00Natienka - I don't know how old you are, but do yo...Natienka - I don't know how old you are, but do you read English, dear? If so, could you trace through my posts with your forefinger and point out where I denied that global warming was taking place?<BR/><BR/>Global warming is not a given, no matter what Sting and Al Gore tell you. But if it is indeed taking place, it is caused by increased activity in the sun. Sting and all the rock concerts in the world cannot influence the sun.<BR/><BR/>But global warming, if it indeed exists is not caused by puny man. How did the Ice Age melt and go away without our help? Mankind wasn't born yet. How did global cooling happen in around the 500s? The country around York used to be wine country like the Languedoc. Posh people in the parts of Britain conquered by the Romans used to wear togas. Then it all got cold again. Then it began to warm up again a few hundred years later. (Can't be bothered to look it up one more time.) All before cars and microwave ovens.<BR/><BR/>The universe handles itself without reference to us. The people promoting this daft theory are one-worlder, anti-progress, destructive lefties.<BR/><BR/>Do try to understand the posts of others before racing in with your hair on fire to refute points that were never made.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-16789906928931649762007-02-20T15:08:00.000+00:002007-02-20T15:08:00.000+00:00macles - Law school drop-out Al Gore has a million...macles - Law school drop-out Al Gore has a million theories, all of them bonkers. Have you heard the one about the hanging chads? He didn't really lose the presidential election. All those people in Florida had actually voted for him, Al Gore, but tens of thousands of them were elderly and they hadn't pressed their paper chads all the way through because being elderly, they were too WEAK. And they were all Democrats! (He knew this instinctively, just as he knows too many cars are causing worldwide climate change instinctively. Al just <I>knows</I> things.)<BR/><BR/>Al Gore, who called George Bush and formally conceded the election, then called back the next day to unconcede. And when Bush said in amazement, "You mean you're taking back your concession?", Gore said, "Well, there's no need to get snippy about it."<BR/><BR/>Al Gore, brainbox and statesman extraordinaire! He is as crazy as a loon on stilts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44329686407007963762007-02-20T14:01:00.000+00:002007-02-20T14:01:00.000+00:00"oh, boo-bloody-hoo. Cry me a river, you wimp."Ah ..."oh, boo-bloody-hoo. Cry me a river, you wimp."<BR/><BR/>Ah yes, there's that compassionate conservativism we hear so much about...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-68283006094575213642007-02-20T13:45:00.000+00:002007-02-20T13:45:00.000+00:00Verity - don't know how old you are but I see glob...Verity - don't know how old you are but I see global warming in my LIFETIME, and I don't think that lasts as long as millions of years. Just check the weather, the temperatures, and see how much they've changed in the last 50-100 years.<BR/>But it's nice to be ignorant and optimistic; it's probably too late to change anything anyways.Natienkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07718195605347581785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88584341218197994882007-02-20T13:37:00.000+00:002007-02-20T13:37:00.000+00:00macles - I'm reporting on what I have read REAL SC...macles - I'm reporting on what I have read REAL SCIENTISTS - as opposed to a Harvard law school dropout and failed presidential candidate - opine. No real,reputable earth scientist has given any endorsement of these wild-eyed,one-worlder, anti-progress claims.<BR/><BR/>Good for the Czech president, say I!<BR/><BR/>Neil Craig writes: "I get the impression of wheels coming off a bandwaggon". Not until the pop stars have had a concert, they're not! And right on cue, all the top rockers have announced a series of eight concerts - one of them in London, so book your easyJet flight out now - to warn people about "climate change". <BR/><BR/>One hundred rock stars are taking part, and if that doesn't freeze your blood on the spot, then take a trip to Antarctica, where one of the concerts will be taking place. All that electronic amplification equipment should melt a few ice floes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-29556390030676195692007-02-20T13:32:00.000+00:002007-02-20T13:32:00.000+00:00More hot boy pics please Iain. I so approve.More hot boy pics please Iain. I so approve.partywhiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14257410969330871574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-12564661573700853822007-02-20T12:32:00.000+00:002007-02-20T12:32:00.000+00:00verity,why are you posting arrant nonsense reveali...verity,<BR/><BR/>why are you posting arrant nonsense revealing your complete and utter ignorance of any part of the scientific understanding of past or present climate change/earth science in general?macleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10744781349665009240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63842892105301671022007-02-20T12:26:00.000+00:002007-02-20T12:26:00.000+00:00Gore predicts a 20 foot sea level rise which won't...Gore predicts a 20 foot sea level rise which won't quite reach Mt Rushmore.<BR/><BR/>Widely unreported in all the media hoopla about the latest IPCC "Summary for Policymakers" is that they have reduced their prediction to a whole 15 inches.<BR/><BR/>Also widely unreported was the statement by the Czech Presodent that "nobody seriopus believes in global warming" & that Al Gore was insane. I get the impression of wheels coming off a bandwaggonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-70927451808844334172007-02-20T11:29:00.000+00:002007-02-20T11:29:00.000+00:00We need more posts like this... :¬)But you can lea...We need more posts like this... :¬)<BR/><BR/>But you can leave out the last picAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-50043527587694329092007-02-20T11:03:00.000+00:002007-02-20T11:03:00.000+00:00Am I missing something?Global warming turns Paris ...Am I missing something?<BR/><BR/>Global warming turns Paris into a site for jungly Elvis Conventions<BR/><BR/>Mount Rushmore turns into camp Tracey Island<BR/><BR/>And we get new episodes of CSI London?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-34241583609279771802007-02-20T10:46:00.000+00:002007-02-20T10:46:00.000+00:00This looks fine to me. Paris is too chilly by far....This looks fine to me. Paris is too chilly by far. Mind you, why support the lesser evil? I've got <A HREF="http://raincoaster.com/2007/01/25/cthulhu-08/" REL="nofollow">the best candidate for the age</A>. <A HREF="http://www.cthulhu.org/cthulhu/positions.html" REL="nofollow">Our platform</A> is irresistable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com