tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post7234877043361933290..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Labour Peers Face Serious Sleaze AllegationsIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-70746347694182513032009-01-25T16:21:00.000+00:002009-01-25T16:21:00.000+00:00Impeach all Four, otherwise the Law is held to rid...Impeach all Four, otherwise the Law is held to ridiculeGuthrumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17499979740864497256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-14836652355364223282009-01-25T15:31:00.000+00:002009-01-25T15:31:00.000+00:00Blair's House of Lords reform(?) really was in his...Blair's House of Lords reform(?) really was in his image wasn't it ?<BR/>A home for money grubbing oiks.Yak40https://www.blogger.com/profile/10391635243252561168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-305917959719782172009-01-25T14:46:00.000+00:002009-01-25T14:46:00.000+00:0013.02 GMT It finally makes the Guardian website.If...13.02 GMT <BR/><BR/>It finally makes the Guardian website.<BR/><BR/>If these Peers weren't going to table amendments themselves but would <I>persuade</I> others to do so there could be a whole web of back scratching corruption.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10028826024122310573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-33275745873000918112009-01-25T14:30:00.000+00:002009-01-25T14:30:00.000+00:00You really are making a complete dick yourself. Bu...You really are making a complete dick yourself. But no change there, I guess.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-66324721939556066792009-01-25T14:25:00.000+00:002009-01-25T14:25:00.000+00:00The Sunday Times story isn't actually holding up a...The Sunday Times story isn't actually holding up all that well. <BR/><BR/>No smoke without fire and all that. Which Ken Clarke of BAT (and also a part time Shadow Mimicster and MP) might bear in mind. And I would de-frock any of these - along with Black, Archer and Ashcroft - if there was any settled agreement to take this work on by any of them.<BR/><BR/>Seems half-arsed. The entrapping pretend lobbyists seem to have done the offering rather than peers done the demanding, what was offered in return is at best, looking at collected reports, moot, and I'm not sure anyone at all had agreed to any deal at all. Some talking of running offers by authorities even.<BR/><BR/>I'd guess they (the ST) have rushed this out ahead of properly springing the trap because it was being rumbled and their game wouldn't have held a further week.<BR/><BR/>The Times papers really have tumbled down the scale of reliability. Almost getting GuF-like in their burden of proof requirement. Has he had anything to do with this?Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-77884324227388371002009-01-25T14:15:00.000+00:002009-01-25T14:15:00.000+00:00PS Particularly as your correspondent J had this ...PS Particularly as your correspondent J had this as lead story on BBC web at 1:43 am as well.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-36735001659873136852009-01-25T14:14:00.000+00:002009-01-25T14:14:00.000+00:00Bit pathetic pretending the BBC didn't get onto th...Bit pathetic pretending the BBC didn't get onto this until 10:30 (and you didn't mean pm did you) when they <A HREF="http://chrispaul-labouroflove.blogspot.com/2009/01/lords-entrapmentcash-offers-guardian.html" REL="nofollow">led the AM Show</A> with an extra studio guest dealing with this very item.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-60762277784059999282009-01-25T14:06:00.000+00:002009-01-25T14:06:00.000+00:00Bunch of corrupt scumbags caught with their hands ...Bunch of corrupt scumbags caught with their hands in the till. Ha-ha!<BR/><BR/>The apologist "Lady" Royall claims that "we don't have trial by media in this country". Yes we do, because by her own admission, the Lords is toothless. This is worth a good half-dozen or so seats come the General Election and that is the price that will be paid.<BR/><BR/>(She's Labour - really - with a title and name like that?!?)Jess The Doghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01694805454982688213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-65417561179866874742009-01-25T11:30:00.000+00:002009-01-25T11:30:00.000+00:00"Lord" Taylor is a nasty, smug, foul-mouthed creti..."Lord" Taylor is a nasty, smug, foul-mouthed cretin of a man. He deserves everything he gets.karltophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12131903629227044541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-3488221308926643442009-01-25T11:26:00.000+00:002009-01-25T11:26:00.000+00:00They wouldn't have waited to see how true it was e...They wouldn't have waited to see how true it was either Sobers.Tony_Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729030784452630545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-69717643474975312132009-01-25T11:12:00.000+00:002009-01-25T11:12:00.000+00:00It may be on the BBC website now, but I notice the...It may be on the BBC website now, but I notice the words 'Labour peers' are distinctly absent from the headline and only mentioned ONCE in the entire article. Despite a couple of them being ex-Labour ministers. <BR/><BR/>The BBC's bias is breathtaking. If this was Tory peers you would have 'Tory peers in sleaze shocker' plastered everywhere on the BBC.Sobershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11407417389022146963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87818446368732887502009-01-25T10:57:00.000+00:002009-01-25T10:57:00.000+00:00IainYou were a lobbyist and you know both that pro...Iain<BR/><BR/>You were a lobbyist and you know both that professional lobbyists are banned from paying legislators and that there is no need to pay them anyway. Any MP or Peer will table an amendment if a good case is made. <BR/><BR/>There are a lot of PR people who do a bit of what they call "public affairs" work on the side and who don't understand the lobbying business - they might think it is ok to offer cash to Peers, but it is hardly a widespread practice. Why pay for something that parliamentarians are happy to do for nolthing?Enlightened Despothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06384983255525542165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1754935594184811142009-01-25T10:33:00.000+00:002009-01-25T10:33:00.000+00:00OK, just seen it's now the top story on the BBC we...OK, just seen it's now the top story on the BBC website.<BR/><BR/>Looks like they were wisely checking it out before obeying Mr Dale's Murdoch buddies.DespairingLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903904463236135611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-13794236437863118162009-01-25T10:32:00.000+00:002009-01-25T10:32:00.000+00:00On your last point Iain, I think the BBC is always...On your last point Iain, I think the BBC is always well advised to wait and see a little bit if stories in the Sunday Times turn out to be true. I can imagine you trying to use a lack of enthusiasm over the Hitler Diaries against the BBC!<BR/><BR/>I have combed other papers this morning and can't find anything anywhere else about it.<BR/><BR/>However, if true, it is a disgrace and worthy of the US Senate at it's best.DespairingLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903904463236135611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-78914073793820315492009-01-25T09:33:00.000+00:002009-01-25T09:33:00.000+00:00http://therantingkingpenguin.blogspot.com/2009/01/...http://therantingkingpenguin.blogspot.com/2009/01/what-big-trough.html<BR/><BR/>If you have a strong stomach or something to mask the stench, stick Lord Taylor of Blackburn into Google.<BR/><BR/>The PenguinHacked Offhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08016667577546745576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-13998068573350264742009-01-25T09:28:00.000+00:002009-01-25T09:28:00.000+00:00I have not yet seen any instance of corruption dur...I have not yet seen any instance of corruption during the tenure of this government that has been rewarded with fair and just punishment.<BR/><BR/>The BBC, while it is reporting this, will be waiting instructions from Lord Mandleson as to how this should be spun.<BR/><BR/>My guess is that it will be spun to gain support for more constitutional vandalism. The reforming ability of the H of L could be slashed in favour of more power for the lower chamber (and thereby the executive). A redrawing of the Parliament Act, (which allows MP's to force through legislation) might allow this to happen more quickly and easily and in more cases as a norm. <BR/><BR/>Alternatively, the power to reform legislation may be stripped altogether, leaving the Lords in an advisory role only.<BR/><BR/>Mandleson's only problem in spinning this against the Lords as a chamber, is that he sits in it!Tony_Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729030784452630545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-58665061565227099032009-01-25T09:22:00.000+00:002009-01-25T09:22:00.000+00:00In all fairness Iain not only is this story now he...In all fairness Iain not only is this story now heading the BBC News website but it's been the lead item on Radio 4's news bulletins all morning!brian in the tamar valleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13475701925894027724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-48353346819708717862009-01-25T09:14:00.000+00:002009-01-25T09:14:00.000+00:00Baroness Royall has just told Marr that the worst ...Baroness Royall has just told Marr that the worst that can happen to a crooked Lord is that he/she is named and shamed.<BR/><BR/>Much like all Peter Hain has to do is say sorry. What does it take to get a crooked politician locked up in this country? One law for them another law for the rest of us.Mr Mrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05606310204997824787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-35223499316575865252009-01-25T08:12:00.000+00:002009-01-25T08:12:00.000+00:00What makes me think they'll get off scot free?What makes me think they'll get off scot free?Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15984396354633891857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-78539435459200172622009-01-25T07:29:00.000+00:002009-01-25T07:29:00.000+00:00I shall be buying shares in a rope factory.I shall be buying shares in a rope factory.Tyburn Jighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14196555005129253329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-60972001902471248462009-01-25T07:08:00.000+00:002009-01-25T07:08:00.000+00:00Chris Paul,Abolishing the Lords is a bit extreme, ...Chris Paul,<BR/><BR/>Abolishing the Lords is a bit extreme, it's not the fault of the Upper Chamber that some of its members appear as bent as nine bob notes. This is just a demonstration of what happens when you pack part of the legislature with appointees, cronies and those who bankroll your party.The Remittance Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13104149259707414863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-59214760358278326622009-01-25T05:39:00.000+00:002009-01-25T05:39:00.000+00:00Guido a bit slow off the mark on this one!Guido a bit slow off the mark on this one!justoneglasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18032450275575587643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-55918727279740604312009-01-25T03:12:00.000+00:002009-01-25T03:12:00.000+00:00Doesn't this show just how effective our current a...Doesn't this show just how effective our current administration is?<BR/><BR/>Gone are outmoded, inefficient Tory practices such as 'cash for questions' replaced by more modern, progressive approaches to governance such as 'cash for access' and 'cash for policy'.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps the peers in question may have overstepped the mark if, as suggested, personal enrichment was involved, however providing they pay the customary tithe to party funds, surely this minor indiscretion should be overlooked.<BR/><BR/>Yours,<BR/><BR/>Dirk HaberdasherHaberdasherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587462830714340364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-18408234639108901192009-01-25T01:43:00.000+00:002009-01-25T01:43:00.000+00:00Currently the lead story.Currently <A HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/" REL="nofollow">the lead story</A>.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14992173417106615152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4320889252460522982009-01-25T01:33:00.000+00:002009-01-25T01:33:00.000+00:00Time to dissolve the Lords for ever. But if the st...Time to dissolve the Lords for ever. But if the story stands up the funniest thing here is that anyone believed these cunning old bastards that they could influence anything.<BR/><BR/>And it is quite amusing that anyone has this lot down as New Labour.<BR/><BR/>Still no apology for the silly all police are bastards - trying to stop anthrax plots - story Iain?<BR/><BR/>Have none of these characters declared their contracts and contacts in a timely way?<BR/><BR/>It is a pretty large amount but Osborne and Duncan appeared to fail to declare similar and larger amounts of contributions to their operations from city and oil interests respectively.<BR/><BR/>So far that didn't stick.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.com