tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post7009381971317991069..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: The Tories and the EPPIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-42705306195005403032009-03-13T10:38:00.000+00:002009-03-13T10:38:00.000+00:00Thanks for the non-invite Iain but we wouldn't be ...Thanks for the non-invite Iain but we wouldn't be interested in joining a group who are in the process of asset stripping the UK and are happy for us to be governed by distant Bureaucrats.<BR/><BR/>They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery which is why whilst resorting to name calling, the Tories try to emulate UKIP to keep their grassroots happy.<BR/><BR/>Here's an irritant we prepared earlier, but do be warned, it'll make your eyes swivel!<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG0-17jzWtcukipwebmasterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12240335641832778726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-5810429727516491662009-03-13T08:34:00.000+00:002009-03-13T08:34:00.000+00:00Colin said... “Would anyone venture a stab at answ...Colin said... <I>“Would anyone venture a stab at answering IT WILL COME TO ME @ 11:58AM? [Values of the modern Conservative party.]”</I><BR/><BR/>Thatcherism lite? We’ll say anything to get elected and then it’s back to same old Tory horror? New improved <B>soft Tories</B> - you can trust them this time? Ssh - whatever you do, don’t talk about Europe? “Cameron - he’s <B>NOT</B> Gordon Brown”? Will someone please sit on George Osborne so he stops embarrassing us? It’s the New Tories - we’re not Thatcher, Major, Hague, Duncan-Smith (who he?) or Howard? “Nasty party” - what nasty party?Simon Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17189501697856123305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-90581586031720700532009-03-12T20:42:00.000+00:002009-03-12T20:42:00.000+00:00Would anyone venture a stab at answering IT WILL C...Would anyone venture a stab at answering IT WILL COME TO ME @ 11:58AM?Colinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16949877777934292635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40248696346149667672009-03-12T18:53:00.000+00:002009-03-12T18:53:00.000+00:00Ignited said... “Don't know of this counts from an...Ignited said... <I>“Don't know of this counts from another country...”</I><BR/><BR/>It doesn’t.Simon Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17189501697856123305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-23598844136005448652009-03-12T18:12:00.000+00:002009-03-12T18:12:00.000+00:00Robert EveShould have gone to specsavers old son.Robert Eve<BR/><BR/>Should have gone to specsavers old son.Mulliganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12445624135697167219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-32228239024253469622009-03-12T18:11:00.000+00:002009-03-12T18:11:00.000+00:00Don't know of this counts from another country, bu...Don't know of this counts from another country, but the UUP MEP has already committed to leave the EPP and follow Cameron:<BR/><BR/>"To that end I have given David Cameron an undertaking that if he succeeds in forming a new group in the European Parliament after the 2009 elections, outside the federalist leaning EPP, then the Ulster Unionists will support him by joining his new Group."<BR/><BR/>http://www.uup.org/newsrooms/speeches/text-of-a-speech-by-sir-reg-empey-to-the-agm-of-the-ulster-unionist-council-on-saturday-may-31-2008-.phpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40697325998551094482009-03-12T18:04:00.000+00:002009-03-12T18:04:00.000+00:00Steve_Roberts said... “...a commitment which puts ...Steve_Roberts said... <I>“...a commitment which puts funding at risk...”</I><BR/><BR/>Eh? Please explain.Simon Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17189501697856123305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-78981946177022779702009-03-12T17:22:00.000+00:002009-03-12T17:22:00.000+00:00An act of courage, to stand by a comittment which ...An act of courage, to stand by a comittment which puts funding at risk. Such a refreshing change.Steve_Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09741170426828516479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-28647427555672995552009-03-12T16:01:00.000+00:002009-03-12T16:01:00.000+00:00'The Conservative Party's move smacks of opportuni...'The Conservative Party's move smacks of opportunism and I remain unconvinced of Mr Cameron's stance.'<BR/> <BR/> Opportunism?? Cameron had this policy in the 2005 leadership election! It's not remotely opportunistic. <BR/> Why are you unconvinced? He said he do it and he's doing it. I guess you're really talking about his policy on the Constitreaty Neverendum if in power and everyone else has signed the Constitreaty.<BR/> On principle I think we shouldn't sign until every country has passed it with a referendum. This won't happen at the moment, primarily because it's c**p.Conandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028671462205997161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-15166171699823019722009-03-12T15:30:00.000+00:002009-03-12T15:30:00.000+00:00Conand@2:22 'All that’s left is the fascists' . Th...Conand@2:22 'All that’s left is the fascists' . That statement is right up there with 'all your x are belong to us'!Roger Thornhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03591327286533118901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-33797513083429353052009-03-12T15:07:00.000+00:002009-03-12T15:07:00.000+00:00The Conservative Party's move smacks of opportunis...The Conservative Party's move smacks of opportunism and I remain unconvinced of Mr Cameron's stance.<BR/><BR/>The good news is that there now seem to be more alternatives open for me to register a protest vote about the EU.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-35138609170592969872009-03-12T14:36:00.000+00:002009-03-12T14:36:00.000+00:00She wasn't always in favour of pulling out, at lea...She wasn't always in favour of pulling out, at least not when in Tunis.Corporal Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18012616823191104029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-52221750377420600032009-03-12T14:22:00.000+00:002009-03-12T14:22:00.000+00:00'All that’s left is the fascists' In practice the ...'All that’s left is the fascists'<BR/><BR/> In practice the Rods and Axes are being wielded only by the pro-federalist bloc who won't hear any opposition point of view.Conandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028671462205997161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-65295364458283128682009-03-12T14:06:00.000+00:002009-03-12T14:06:00.000+00:00Was the lovely Miss Flint as fit in 1983?Lovely in...Was the lovely Miss Flint as fit in 1983?<BR/><BR/>Lovely in the physical sense of course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-31829291033852331362009-03-12T13:59:00.000+00:002009-03-12T13:59:00.000+00:00Whoops! I meant to say: 'insulated FROM some of th...Whoops! I meant to say: 'insulated FROM some of the far right policies currently pursued by leading parties in the EPP'<BR/><BR/> Damn tricky business this politics lark. Especially in English, which I thought was my first and only language.Conandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028671462205997161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76300993694537136172009-03-12T13:52:00.000+00:002009-03-12T13:52:00.000+00:00Why not cover this - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...Why not cover this - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1161483/Thirty-members-Government-admit-employ-relatives-taxpayers-expense.html - about Flint and others.<BR/><BR/>Especially as she was so vituperative to people in social housing last year.Paul Halsallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602075031268155220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-68533323492991757622009-03-12T13:41:00.000+00:002009-03-12T13:41:00.000+00:00I really don't like Caroline Flint, but it seems r...I really don't like Caroline Flint, but it seems reasonable to have changed one's opinions in the past 26 years without being accused of, well, anything at all.<BR/><BR/>I mean I accidentally voted Tory in 1979 (because I was anti-abortion), and look where that lead.Paul Halsallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602075031268155220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-52110304002756988762009-03-12T13:30:00.000+00:002009-03-12T13:30:00.000+00:00If the Conservatives do not achieve the numbers of...If the Conservatives do not achieve the numbers of MEPs from the requisite number of member states to form the new group by the time the new European Parliament assembles, expect the EPP to do them no favours when EP committee chairmanships, memberships and speaking time are handed out. The fatc that Dan hannan has managed to remain on a committee following his departure from the EPP is no indication of what the established groups in the EP may do to a significant anti-federalist political grouping on the non-attached benches come June.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-51857288635089275472009-03-12T13:18:00.000+00:002009-03-12T13:18:00.000+00:00"when I was at university with her"Commiserations...."when I was at university with her"<BR/><BR/>Commiserations. Is this what made you the man you are ?<BR/><BR/>Alan Douglas<BR/><BR/>PS I swear WV is sentient : hylymAlan Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16071898364060640779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-69103714793094466062009-03-12T13:15:00.000+00:002009-03-12T13:15:00.000+00:00“'It’s a deliberate policy by the Tories to isolat...<I>“'It’s a deliberate policy by the Tories to isolate themselves from the centre right.'No, it's so we can engage with other Centre Right parties...”</I><BR/><BR/>What “other Centre Right parties”? There aren’t any. The Tories have abandoned the centre right. They are now quite alone and very, very peculiar. All that’s left is the fascists. The Tories <B>are</B> Iain’s “fruitcakes”.Simon Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17189501697856123305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-47070263253860998552009-03-12T12:57:00.000+00:002009-03-12T12:57:00.000+00:00'who has already turned him down and who he wi...'who has already turned him down and who he will pledge never to work with'<BR/><BR/> I refer everybody who is interested (&Caroline Flint) to Dan Hannan's excellent piece 'Seven reasons to leave the EPP': http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/daniel_hannan/blog/2008/12/04/seven_reasons_to_leave_the_epp<BR/><BR/> Especially reasons 4 & 5<BR/><BR/> '26 year old quote ian keep up the good woork ;-)'<BR/><BR/> She'd be quite happy to use Conservative quotes from the Thatcher era.<BR/><BR/> 'It’s a deliberate policy by the Tories to isolate themselves from the centre right.'<BR/><BR/> No, it's so we can engage with other Centre Right parties without all the fanatical-federalist baggage. We'd also be insulated by some of the far right policies currently pursued by leading parties in the EPP. I refer you again to Mr Hannan's piece.Conandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18028671462205997161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-34284533557311273812009-03-12T12:36:00.000+00:002009-03-12T12:36:00.000+00:00I'm pleased as punch about this, but why did it ta...I'm pleased as punch about this, but why did it take so long?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-55896742932304131572009-03-12T12:11:00.000+00:002009-03-12T12:11:00.000+00:00But Britain is at the fringe of Europe. Check the ...But Britain is at the fringe of Europe. Check the map Caroline !<BR/><BR/>We used to be at the centre of the Commonwealth, but then we stabbed our family in the back in exchange for decades of French and German abuse and money grabbing ( mostly the French here ).Man in a Shedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00990902055642035293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87392929673634064592009-03-12T12:10:00.000+00:002009-03-12T12:10:00.000+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-11424957578200596632009-03-12T12:08:00.000+00:002009-03-12T12:08:00.000+00:00Caroline Flint has severe form.Dizzy came up with ...Caroline Flint has severe form.<BR/><BR/>Dizzy came up with this last year:<BR/><BR/>http://dizzythinks.net/2009/03/caroline-flint-wins-misleading-answer.html<BR/><BR/>She is just a piece of work.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.com