tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post6724448151752308471..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: A Question The Times Must AnswerIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger92125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-9904186079919342192009-06-18T09:32:31.458+01:002009-06-18T09:32:31.458+01:00http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php...http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=127470 Nightjack get your complaint in first<br /><br />P Foster would have done well to read this when he was confronted at his door by the boys in blue<br /><br /><br /><br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1531307/Student-barred-over-sex-film.html Patrick Foster Peeping Tomczechboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10516177135295308850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-77267823255427959352009-06-18T06:06:34.411+01:002009-06-18T06:06:34.411+01:00How typical! Twenty four hours after The Times &qu...How typical! Twenty four hours after The Times "scoop", a string of letters from the public have appeared. Its whining article entitled "mixed feelings over the decision" has done nothing to abate the anger and not a single letter agrees with their actions.Vienna Woodshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11514552884944533524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-81238933498318431232009-06-17T22:06:43.584+01:002009-06-17T22:06:43.584+01:00I remain astounded that some anonymous commenters ...I remain astounded that some anonymous commenters were under the delusion that The Times is some sort of drawn sword parting the darkness of ignorance.<br /><br />The Times exists to serve the egos and expense accounts of people like Finkelstein, not to provide a platform for dissent. They are, in their own unique way, as corrupt as politicians.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-22202606094065880582009-06-17T21:35:07.942+01:002009-06-17T21:35:07.942+01:00Just been reading Daniel Finkelstein's patheti...Just been reading Daniel Finkelstein's pathetic defence at Comment Central at the Times Online. He is taking a hammering from readers. But while the Times has posted comments from readers in support of Night Jack himself, it is still suppressing all comments critical of its own actions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-70162917505879565592009-06-17T19:56:34.540+01:002009-06-17T19:56:34.540+01:00The Times has also stopped the journo in question,...The Times has also stopped the journo in question, Patrick Foster, from going on the Richard Bacon show tonight apparently.<br /><br />http://fabulousblueporcupine.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/patrick-foster-who-investigates-the-investigatives/Alixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08579998688536737861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-59960021059956426532009-06-17T19:32:11.445+01:002009-06-17T19:32:11.445+01:00Yes but Paul Staines is not employed by anyone and...Yes but Paul Staines is not employed by anyone and financially independent plus he runs his blog from outside the UK. What is more concerning is the potential use of this ruling to stifle whistleblowers particularly those employed in the public sector. <br /><br />And I really don't believe the Times was acting in some dubious spirit of public interest. If so why not tell us the name of all those spokemen "close to the government" who feed them stories, as Iain points out.<br /><br />It's all gone very quiet at Times Online and virtually no comments are running, assume they have been suppressed as critical of the Times's action. They can hand it out apparently but they can't take it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-31597044526026799412009-06-17T18:59:02.095+01:002009-06-17T18:59:02.095+01:00I think the reason for Nightjack's piece in Th...I think the reason for Nightjack's piece in The Snitch is perfectly clear:- Nightjack loves Big Brother.Martin Wellbournehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01224027590387598617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-75178337934851872392009-06-17T18:48:55.136+01:002009-06-17T18:48:55.136+01:00From the way some of you are talking, one would be...From the way some of you are talking, one would be half-forgiven for thinking that this is the first time a blogger's real identity has been revealed. As we all know, it isn't.<br /><br />Remember when a certain Guido Fawkes was outed as Paul Staines? It hasn't done his blog any harm at all - indeed, he now has more readers than ever. Different context I know, but similar reasoning.<br /><br />According to this morning's Daily Mail, "Nightjack" has received several offers to write a book. If he takes up some of the offers that will head his way in the next few weeks, this could be the best thing that ever happened to him.The Grim Reaperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05543130733645367498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44033729001580978052009-06-17T16:45:53.122+01:002009-06-17T16:45:53.122+01:00I hope that the few extra copies The Times has sol...I hope that the few extra copies The Times has sold by this cheap and spiteful stunt will be far outweighed by the many regular readers, like myself, who will never buy their paper again.<br /><br />Bastards.R Nosgrovenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-47816242490971011782009-06-17T16:09:24.035+01:002009-06-17T16:09:24.035+01:00I wonder how many of those journalists and others ...I wonder how many of those journalists and others supporting the "exposure" of Night Jack, work in occupations or organisations where whistleblowing leads to sacking. Maybe if they did they would be less sanguine about the need to remove anonymity from bloggers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-580507017917574942009-06-17T14:29:11.522+01:002009-06-17T14:29:11.522+01:00Well I read his blog and it didn't seem to me ...Well I read his blog and it didn't seem to me that it was particularly revealing, he didn't give names or anything like that and you would have had to do some detective work yourself to find out what he was talking about. <br /><br />Plus in at least one of the cases complained about, it was all reported in the papers as it went through the courts anyway. <br /><br />I can't help thinking there is a culture at the Times of outing bloggers and when they decline to be outed, doorstepping them and then when that doesn't work, putting them out of business. Spite really. <br /><br />Interesting that the Times is suppressing criticism of their actions on their online Comments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-70689887002279097242009-06-17T13:28:24.530+01:002009-06-17T13:28:24.530+01:00Two years ago The Times earned the contempt of ...Two years ago The Times earned the contempt of 'adult bloggers' when for no good reason it outed 'Girl With A One-Track Mind' and in so doing took her life to pieces. The contempt that was heaped on that rag at the time seems simply to have bounced off with no lessons learned and no contrition.<br /><br />The observation that The Times feels threatened by bloggers and is consequently lashing out at the softer targets seems well made.Slow Learnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09276308053037019253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-10806058196113843952009-06-17T12:33:19.524+01:002009-06-17T12:33:19.524+01:00So if you featured in a police investigation (as a...So if you featured in a police investigation (as a witness or suspect), you'd be happy for a police officer on that investigation to give a running commentary of it on his blog?<br /><br />I think not, Iain.<br /><br />Word verification: "plopp". Ha!Disco Biscuitnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-68204606396552888332009-06-17T12:03:35.780+01:002009-06-17T12:03:35.780+01:00The latest on the 'NightJackStraw' blogger...The latest on the 'NightJackStraw' blogger:-<br /><br />http://moralorder.mediumisthemess.com/blogdoodledandyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10072665303632029459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-81793098208192394452009-06-17T10:43:31.904+01:002009-06-17T10:43:31.904+01:00T Needham
The Times routinely blocks comments tha...T Needham<br /><br />The Times routinely blocks comments that don't reflect their take on stories and so do their comment writers, as does the BBC and other mainstream media.<br /><br />Remember the Dan Hannan attack on Gordon Brown. None of them touched it, until they began to look preposterously censorious.<br /><br />You could say that media censoring of popular opinion is the reason blogs exist at all.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72450378006095162352009-06-17T10:39:51.411+01:002009-06-17T10:39:51.411+01:00So thats me boycotting the Times from now on..
Nig...So thats me boycotting the Times from now on..<br />Nightjack was brilliant. They should put him in charge of policing and sack the numpties who currently run it.Galdys Pewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-6760444197316621542009-06-17T10:36:06.416+01:002009-06-17T10:36:06.416+01:00I posted a comment on the Times Online story about...I posted a comment on the Times Online story about this, late last night, criticising the action of the Times and pointing out the implications for their own whistle blowers. It has not been published.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-7053013626959521102009-06-17T10:27:16.655+01:002009-06-17T10:27:16.655+01:00I was quite amazed that Sir David Eady QC of GOODS...I was quite amazed that Sir David Eady QC of GOODSHILL FARMHOUSE CRANBROOK ROAD TENTERDEN KENT TN306UN, a man noted for his obsession with privacy, would do such a thing.Old Holbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10164491045068093627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-13641374955592478442009-06-17T10:26:30.362+01:002009-06-17T10:26:30.362+01:00Pretty much par for the course.
Anything that is ...Pretty much par for the course.<br /><br />Anything that is good for the grass roots population is always spoilt by those that seek to control it, profit from it or ban it in favour of their own self interest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-42550737497581071122009-06-17T10:04:47.005+01:002009-06-17T10:04:47.005+01:00I left a comment on the "Have Your Say" ...I left a comment on the "Have Your Say" section attached to the Times' article on this matter(see:http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article6509677.ece)<br />I left me comment at 6:45 am. It did not appear. Only two comments have been published and they were both showing prior to 6:45.Could this be a technical hitch or would The Times really stoop to blocking access?<br />By the way, I wasn't offensive, I merely pointed out that I would no longer buy the Times.T Needhamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40270928170673737622009-06-17T10:00:45.619+01:002009-06-17T10:00:45.619+01:00Bastards. They've destroyed him.
In the publi...Bastards. They've destroyed him.<br /><br />In the public interest? I don't think so. <br /><br />JuliaM said: <i>their reasoning is that bloggers in general are a threat to them</i><br /><br />well said that woman. So true.<br /><br />I will NEVER buy the Times newspaper again. NEVER.Philipahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03440234602399886097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-46077799266126915522009-06-17T08:17:10.327+01:002009-06-17T08:17:10.327+01:00It is the official ideology that doing things anon...It <b>is</b> the official ideology that doing things anonymously (or pseudonymously) is a bad thing. The rationale is precisely that that leads Nightjack to be disciplinied and his blog removed. Anonymity and privacy are necessary precursors of freedom. What you do privately cannot be controlled either explicitly by command and regulation, or implicitly by social pressure or by unacknowledged command in licensing conditions and inspector's oversight.<br /><br />It is the same motive that drives the contemporary demand for registration (and thus necessarily closer regulation) of home educators. 'We need to see what you are doing because otherwise you might not do what we want.'Guy Herberthttp://www.no2id.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-15877755636626215852009-06-17T08:10:25.709+01:002009-06-17T08:10:25.709+01:00The elite hate and are frightened by the police. I...The elite hate and are frightened by the police. It was ever thus.talwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06217305295002230599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-8454567651272338922009-06-17T07:55:24.257+01:002009-06-17T07:55:24.257+01:00Night Jack's piece in The Times today was pro...Night Jack's piece in The Times today was probably imposed on him by his employer as a condition of staying in the job. The last few sentences suggest that strongly, and the whole thing has a ring of being obliged to make a statement rather than wanting to convey a point. I can't imagine it being a matter of choice.Submarinernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-25582929356724956572009-06-17T06:49:02.312+01:002009-06-17T06:49:02.312+01:00the times must now release the identity of their s...the times must now release the identity of their sources.<br /><br />ian,<br />under labour success is hated(unless you are employed by the state),you are successful,and a target of this oppressive left wing country,be careful.robin hoodnoreply@blogger.com