tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post6650809322924465681..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: What the Twitter is Draper Up To?Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger126125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-64818536147449320432009-02-10T08:35:00.000+00:002009-02-10T08:35:00.000+00:00Is all this a bit immature on both sides of the bl...Is all this a bit immature on both sides of the blog equation? I would suggest that these political bloggers follow the likes of blogs like Yaro Starak's, and Caroline Middlebrook's blogs who earn a packet. They will show everyone how blogging is really done - As it goes I don't support LabourList and this Draper - but, it's a bit like the BNP if you keep going on about how rubbish they are you are falling into their trap and giving them more exposure and determination to continue to do what ever little tricks they have up their sleeve.... <BR/><BR/>www.plenty2say.comPlentyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06205851616053056137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-8830983163532841622009-02-09T22:45:00.000+00:002009-02-09T22:45:00.000+00:00You clearly haven't noticed the absence of links t...You clearly haven't noticed the absence of links to his miserable site in this post, or indeed any other since!Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-18351011020906678922009-02-09T22:43:00.000+00:002009-02-09T22:43:00.000+00:00Here's the thing: Draper's blog has been a flop, n...Here's the thing: Draper's blog has been a flop, nobody's read it, but he's smart enough to realise that by posting endless things like this hugely more successful blogs like this, and Guido and Coffee House will link to him, traffic goes up, people pop him in the RSS feeds and pete's your uncle.<BR/>Why not stop making his day and ignore him, when the laws of commerce dicate he will actually go away?OscarIndiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10738557392950122273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-25405488143588861752009-02-07T23:30:00.000+00:002009-02-07T23:30:00.000+00:00From the "discussion page" about Draper at Wikiped...From the "discussion page" about Draper at Wikipedia.<BR/><BR/>QUOTE<BR/><BR/>"Draper hosted the Student Union quiz nights which frequently imploded under his own bombast, egotism and drunkeness. "<BR/><BR/>-appropriate?<BR/><BR/>Answer - Yes. Although there is no way of equalling the description of him as a self loving, over-scented clerk, which is untouchable. The only thing i can think of that would be more ironic than him writing a column on psychotherapy would be dietary tips from the king of Tonga.<BR/><BR/> * Could you give your reasons for why a description of him in such terms is appropriate in an encyclopaedia article? Are there any sources for his drunkenness and implosion of the quiz nights? Magic Pickle 19:35, 18 July 2006 (UTC)<BR/><BR/> *<BR/> o Because it gives a good insight into his own particular megalomania, which in itself begs the question why a "Labour" movement would recruit such an obvious narcissist. The only evidence i can give , sadly , is that i attended more than one of his fiascoes.<BR/><BR/> *<BR/> o<BR/> + (sigh) I would ask that you read Wikipedia:Verifiability as personal recollections do not count as good enough evidence of a fact for placement on here. Your description of Draper's bombast and egotism and drunkenness would not have a place in a conventional encyclopaedia. Magic Pickle 10:12, 10 September 2006 (UTC)<BR/><BR/> *<BR/> o<BR/> +<BR/> # I remember Derek from uni and, subjective as it may be, I must say that sounds like a very accurate description of him. HairyDan 20:35, 26 March 2007 (UTC)<BR/><BR/>UNQUOTEJonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15984396354633891857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63608885705118028802009-02-07T22:42:00.000+00:002009-02-07T22:42:00.000+00:00Thank god you mentioned this, Iain. When I found o...Thank god you mentioned this, Iain. When I found out he was following me it completely creeped me out. Now I understand the deep revulsion & trauma that stalking victims suffer.neonoctafishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01787129719781246547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-34338250515133572402009-02-07T21:33:00.000+00:002009-02-07T21:33:00.000+00:00@ SavonarolaIn many ways you're absolutely right. ...@ Savonarola<BR/><BR/>In many ways you're absolutely right. I would welcome a decent left wing blog - or several. I just doubt that LabourList will ever be sufficiently good, certainly not under the present management, that is. As I've said here and elsewhere, quality and content are the keys.<BR/><BR/>But the present quality of debate (and presentation) is just awful. There was a time when much of the Socialists' writing and argument was, simply, superb. But they have lost their way and are now seen to be no better than - and in many ways considerably worse - than the Conservatives of the 1990s. What they will need to do is establish credibility and (an appearance of) integrity and competence. It will be a very long time before that happens, blog or no blog.Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1910820565791734492009-02-07T19:18:00.000+00:002009-02-07T19:18:00.000+00:00The last comment was deleted because of swearing.The last comment was deleted because of swearing.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-15077108521217377622009-02-07T19:10:00.000+00:002009-02-07T19:10:00.000+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Keir Stitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16637660547905623728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-12459246020414165882009-02-07T17:32:00.000+00:002009-02-07T17:32:00.000+00:00My advice, for what it is worth, is to ignore Dere...My advice, for what it is worth, is to ignore Derek Draper. He always seemed to be an unpleasant individual but now he and much of the rest of the Labour rabble seem to believe that they have the right to be as vicious as they deem necessary so as to keep power away from the "nasty party". <BR>The next general election campaign, if we allowed an election, will be the nastiest campaign ever in the UK and the Conservative party must be aware that elements within the Labour party will use any number of illegal tactics to win it.Not a sheephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14123293202225008273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-91535994781940979592009-02-07T17:19:00.000+00:002009-02-07T17:19:00.000+00:00I'm afraid I was flattered... until I read Iain's ...I'm afraid I was flattered... until I read Iain's piece.<BR/><BR/>Ho hum, back into obscurity...The Fact Compilerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15749384421201300402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-17299191236236521912009-02-07T17:07:00.000+00:002009-02-07T17:07:00.000+00:00Alan: Egregious is latin for 'outside the flock' -...Alan: Egregious is latin for 'outside the flock' - something you might call in statistics an 'outlier'. Outliers can be either above or below the mean, ie unusually good or unusually bad.Steve_Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09741170426828516479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-48853043209236989712009-02-07T16:09:00.000+00:002009-02-07T16:09:00.000+00:00Yes. I am am now being followed by Derek Draper.Oh...Yes. I am am now being followed by Derek Draper.<BR/><BR/>Oh, what fun.<BR/><BR/>Still, if he wants Twitter to ban him, he is going the right way about it.Martin Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04148241391183658112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1223509253499255102009-02-07T15:33:00.000+00:002009-02-07T15:33:00.000+00:00Yorksher Gob must like you, 'egregious' is Latin f...Yorksher Gob must like you, 'egregious' is Latin for 'distinguished'Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16150146260867345974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-10971843035491756512009-02-07T15:31:00.000+00:002009-02-07T15:31:00.000+00:00This is hilarious. They say Twitter is a form of r...This is hilarious. They say Twitter is a form of reverse stalking, but Derek in true Socialist style has managed to invert even that.<BR/><BR/>Iain, are you sure Draper has not been "Hitchened" ?Roger Thornhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03591327286533118901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-29548478253398686322009-02-07T14:49:00.000+00:002009-02-07T14:49:00.000+00:00I was requested to allow him to follow me And I w...I was requested to allow him to follow me And I wondered why he had followed me , I was at a loss so I called him Dolly He promptly unfollowed and I realised what the game was he is now blocked<BR/><BR/>What a Arsehole he isHenry North London 2.0https://www.blogger.com/profile/14748991488145468593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-5971799293058018522009-02-07T13:36:00.000+00:002009-02-07T13:36:00.000+00:00No comment:Just the WV: aturd!!!No comment:<BR/><BR/>Just the WV: aturd<BR/><BR/>!!!Dual Citizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05688872768973943522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72827070574552623952009-02-07T13:04:00.000+00:002009-02-07T13:04:00.000+00:00"Simon Gardner said... draper the movie said......<I>"Simon Gardner said...<BR/><BR/> draper the movie said... “Yeah well, if you can't say anything nice, it's best not to say anything at all..IMHO.”<BR/><BR/> New to this, eh?<BR/><BR/> Notwithstanding, this is considerably below Iain’s usual standards.<BR/> [plonk]<BR/><BR/> February 07, 2009 7:12 AM"</I><BR/><BR/>To be frank, I've had wittier comebacks from the speaking clock, but I suppose I'll have to cut some slack for someone who is obviously a beginner.Chucklenutshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10471510157135517907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76036825732953313512009-02-07T11:49:00.000+00:002009-02-07T11:49:00.000+00:00On his profile at Labourlist, I presume in a despe...On his profile at Labourlist, I presume in a desperate attempt to draw the chav vote (big readers of political blogs) back to Labour, Draper admits to having been 'a regular on ITV's Kyle's Academy'. Maybe his old mate Jer could help him get over this terrible addiction to politics which he has tried for so many years years to overcome. That's one Jeremy Kyle show I'd steel myself to watch.<BR/><BR/>The rolling development of his Wikipedia entry (Dollface vs. The World in an editing war) is becoming surreal. Overnight, the total number of visitors to LL was altered to '5' - not a lot for such a star-studded site, Derek. You might want to change that, in case people think your site is rubbish.Prodicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18024865482933469271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-64309301257576808152009-02-07T11:42:00.000+00:002009-02-07T11:42:00.000+00:00All is explained. I thought I had picked up my fir...All is explained. I thought I had picked up my first follower but now my hopes are dashed. I'll just go back to being lonely. Love the blog.Piglethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14288871260082764266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-80549137271661243352009-02-07T11:25:00.000+00:002009-02-07T11:25:00.000+00:00Sorry bust link - here you go...Mr Draper 5 Nov 20...Sorry bust link - here you go...<A HREF="http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2005/nov/05/weekend.deccaaitkenhead" REL="nofollow">Mr Draper 5 Nov 2005 Guardian</A>Platohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07416276749202589235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-37726593805604999792009-02-07T11:16:00.000+00:002009-02-07T11:16:00.000+00:00I saw this and thought it could have been written ...I saw this and thought it could have been written yesterday. It is dated 5 November 2005. I'm sure Guido will note the date.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps he should read the article again too.<BR/><BR/>"...Looking back on his "idiot years" now, after seven years of therapy - the last three in daily analysis - he attributes the self-destructive impulses to an unconscious need to get out of politics. <BR/><BR/>"I believe now, as a psychotherapist, that most of what we do is motivated by the unconscious. And I think slowly, over a period of time, not being at the centre of power but having my face pressed up against the shop window, I'd unconsciously decided I didn't really like what I saw. But it was very hard for me to recognise, because it was all I'd wanted to do since the age of 11."<BR/><BR/>http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2005/nov/05/weekend.deccaaitkenhead/Platohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07416276749202589235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-7964404697683859142009-02-07T10:54:00.000+00:002009-02-07T10:54:00.000+00:00OH - Draper should take a leaf out of your book bu...OH - Draper should take a leaf out of your book buddy. Put BBC to shame as to how quickly some hoon can get sacked. Comedy.Dick the Prickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02683095612320513712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-90670196905004019132009-02-07T10:23:00.000+00:002009-02-07T10:23:00.000+00:00I got an e-mail from Twitter saying he was followi...I got an e-mail from Twitter saying he was following me. Didn't take too long to find out that he seems to have a reputation and isn't the kind of person I want to be associated with. I blocked him. From what I can see we have no common interests.<BR/><BR/>When I write political content, I do so to highlight the stupidity of whoever is responsible for that stupidity. Usually it's the current UK "government", though cricket's governing body the ICC gets a fair and well-deserved kicking on my blog as well.<BR/><BR/>Like Old Holborn, I started my site and blog for my own personal enjoyment. If my writings make people think about and change what they say, what they believe and what they do then good is being done.<BR/><BR/>I guess that means I've had my first Twitter stalker!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-80869649802988670992009-02-07T10:21:00.000+00:002009-02-07T10:21:00.000+00:00@Unsworth 9:22I think it true to say that blogs su...@Unsworth 9:22<BR/><BR/>I think it true to say that blogs such as this, Guido, Raedwald and many others have filled , in part, a vacuum in the political process. They do this by engaging in debate, exposing what the MSM does not and generally pulling politicians down a peg or two.<BR/><BR/>When/if there is a Cons Govt(I am a member of this party) it would be healthy if LabourList or equivalent were strong and robust to expose the Hamiltons/Mellors/Hayes and others that will emerge. Arubably if there had been a blog about to keep the Cons Govt real, much subsequent damage could have been prevented.<BR/><BR/>How do LabourList achieve this. This is for Draper and co to work out. I suggest they will learn. I hope they do.Savonarolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07500688050397705993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-13359716951587999632009-02-07T10:08:00.000+00:002009-02-07T10:08:00.000+00:00Iain Draper reminds me of Chad Noble!Iain Draper reminds me of Chad Noble!UKIP@HOMEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04332861567994996510noreply@blogger.com