tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post6522963471975827385..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: The Day Speaker Martin Lost His JobIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-84892695994827280632008-10-28T15:09:00.000+00:002008-10-28T15:09:00.000+00:00Anonymous said..."an allegation which [Osborne] ha...<B>Anonymous said...</B><BR/><BR/>"an allegation which [Osborne] has explicitly denied, and which a Labour chair of the relevant select committee refuses to look into because there is nothing to investigate."<BR/><BR/><BR/>But were Ossie to sue his friend Nat for libel and lose, then there would be something to investigate. I wonder if that is why the libel lawyers have not been unleashed.<BR/><BR/>By the way, as usual you tories have got everything arse upwards. The Speaker was doing the tories a favour. I was gagging for him to call Skinner much earlier; that would have been much more fun and far better for nulab. I'm still furious it only happened at the end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-8086181349477591162008-10-23T18:39:00.000+01:002008-10-23T18:39:00.000+01:00Skinner vs OsbourneIn case you missed the electric...Skinner vs Osbourne<BR/>In case you missed the electricity between these two - I hope you enjoy this clip!!<BR/><BR/>www.thecrownblogspot.blogspot.com/2008/10/skinner-vs-osbourne.htmlCROWNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06560750634638531738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40236213590314920842008-10-23T15:26:00.000+01:002008-10-23T15:26:00.000+01:00I'd like to know why the BBC is so touchy about th...I'd like to know why the BBC is so touchy about this story. The Sun wrote in their leader comment today that the BBC have shown bias in their reporting of this tale. I have had 3 out of 4 posts on this subject rejected from Nick Robinsons Blog. It seems my crime has been to say that he and Peston have been less than even handed and that the real story concerns Mandy and his relationship with Derispaka. My posts also referred to the rout in bank shares following Peston's report. That is obviously touching very raw nerves.I see there has been a suggestion that the Tories want the source of this leak investigated. Quite right too. If it was the government who leaked this Brown should resign.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72665231791727341992008-10-23T13:55:00.000+01:002008-10-23T13:55:00.000+01:00The McSpeaker is an anti-English communist Jock, t...The McSpeaker is an anti-English communist Jock, therefore he is working directly for fellow anti-English communist Jock Broon and the masses of England hating far left-wing communist extremists in the McLabour Regime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88137951298684472062008-10-23T12:14:00.000+01:002008-10-23T12:14:00.000+01:00When the UK Parliament was first televised, a Dutc...When the UK Parliament was first televised, a Dutch friend told me that children in his country began to scurry home as fast as they could after school to watch the undignified lunacy of the Mother of Talking-Shops.<BR/><BR/>They saw it as a comic programme. Its members obviously take the same view, with the added bonuses of gold-plated pensions, free travel and huge 'expenses'. Why ought we to regard it any differently?<BR/><BR/>It is appalling to think that people died to confer on us this precious legacy that their successors treat so cheaply. 'Elective Dictatorship' has been here for a long time now. When the Speaker, the guardian of the system's dignity and integrity, descends to the levels visited by Gorbals Mick, there can be no hope. <BR/><BR/>What on earth can we powerless proles do to get it reformed? (I suppose that, if I refer to gunpowder as a cure, you will consider it a promo for another blog site, Iain?)<BR/><BR/>Word verification - tatienti - a memorial to the immortal Jacques, I take it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-23089015070020367332008-10-23T10:13:00.000+01:002008-10-23T10:13:00.000+01:00Dangermouse said... "Mad Mick also didn't let Davi...Dangermouse said... <BR/>"Mad Mick also didn't let David Davies give his resignation speech in the House as was his due."<BR/><BR/>The Speaker didn't stop him from giving a resignation speech in the House but, having seen the script of the long speech that Davis proposed, declared that it was mostly a repeat of what he had said in debate the previous day and that Davis should remove anything that had already been said. Davis decided that left him with too little for it to be worth his while and chose to give the speech outside the House.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57534562244768814492008-10-23T09:51:00.000+01:002008-10-23T09:51:00.000+01:00Anon 5:27 - does that include by-elections?Honestl...Anon 5:27 - does that include by-elections?<BR/><BR/>Honestly though, what utter tripe - where on earth do these nutjobs exist when they are not spouting nonsense on rightist blogs?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-71858175850070522552008-10-23T09:18:00.000+01:002008-10-23T09:18:00.000+01:00this is a fuss over nothing. what's the matter wit...this is a fuss over nothing. what's the matter with you? grow up and stop snivelling - it's parliamentary knockabout. handbags. this outrage in response is the equivalent of running home to mummy dressed up as a constitutional question. if Osborne and co can't take it, then they shouldn't be in there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-82730994635301350512008-10-22T23:27:00.000+01:002008-10-22T23:27:00.000+01:00If it's anything like the general level of EU parl...If it's anything like the general level of EU parliamentary "supervision", they will issue a "mild rebuke" to Mandlesohn, which he can cheerfully ignore, no longer being a Commissioner. He could probably have ignored it even if he still was, since EU Commissioners are more or less unnacountable satraps.<BR/><BR/>This whole sorry saga simply demonstrates Mandy's political skills - he knows that the British public don't really care what an EU Commissioner gets up to, so he knew that Osborne's smear would not work and that his counter-attack would.<BR/><BR/>If you are going to play with the big boys, be prepared and don't whine when you lose.<BR/><BR/>What's really interesting though to my mind is that Mandlesohn appears to have been semi-involved in efforts to channel money to the Tory Party. Now why on earth would he want to do that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-62295363425602442482008-10-22T23:11:00.000+01:002008-10-22T23:11:00.000+01:00Cameron has previously asked a "clear question to ...Cameron has previously asked a "clear question to the Prime Minister" that was ruled out of order, because it concerned the Labour Party. It is not clear why the Speaker has ruled that Prime Minister's Questions should be allowed consider matters pertaining to the Conservative Party but not to the Labour Party.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-80238494931430195932008-10-22T23:02:00.000+01:002008-10-22T23:02:00.000+01:00GOOD OLD DENNIS!!!GOOD OLD DENNIS!!!DanielClarkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11515903642911902890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40651275721054381882008-10-22T22:51:00.000+01:002008-10-22T22:51:00.000+01:00Bang on Iain - as usual one law for them and anoth...Bang on Iain - as usual one law for them and another for everyone else. Mad Mick also didn't let David Davies give his resignation speech in the House as was his due.<BR/><BR/>The man is a disgrace - he should be investigated, not Osborne.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-75381620942244513802008-10-22T22:46:00.000+01:002008-10-22T22:46:00.000+01:00"the authorities" ???is brown planning on setting ..."the authorities" ???<BR/><BR/>is brown planning on setting up a quango specifically for osborne.<BR/><BR/>i say that as no other idiot is going to investigate this nonsense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-86570566160753595612008-10-22T22:25:00.000+01:002008-10-22T22:25:00.000+01:00“You clearly didn’t see the clerk urging Martin to...<I>“You clearly didn’t see the clerk urging Martin to intervene and rule it out of order.”</I><BR/><BR/>No, I didn’t see that Iain, not on the clip you provide. But if I had seen it, I wouldn’t have known what the clerk was saying; and if he had been telling the Speaker to rule Skinner out of order, then he surely would have been speaking out of turn himself; and, last but not least, he would have been wrong in his judgement. Phew!<BR/><BR/>Because the question was in order. The question was, “Will the Prime Minister give us a rock solid assurance [that] whatever he does in order to clear the decks of the nation’s finances, he will never ever meet a Russian billionaire to try and cadge the money?” This is followed by some inaudible stuff which I think goes, “We’ll leave that to the sleazy Tory party opposite.”<BR/><BR/>What’s wrong with that? It’s a clear question to the Prime Minister. It’s not a <I>serious</I> question, but that is neither here nor there. What you seem to be saying is that the Speaker should have read Skinner’s mind and not called the question lest it prove damaging to the Conservative party!Laurence Boycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17838530535994771528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-65982113726991445652008-10-22T22:03:00.000+01:002008-10-22T22:03:00.000+01:00Good riddance when it comes. He and his like have ...Good riddance when it comes. <BR/><BR/>He and his like have further reduced respect for democracy.<BR/><BR/>I don't live far from where he was based and can only wonder how on earth he got this job?<BR/><BR/>Maybe a parliamentary enquiry is in order!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-66803550575461757942008-10-22T22:01:00.000+01:002008-10-22T22:01:00.000+01:00Ooh, you are going negative folks. It was trashy w...Ooh, you are going negative folks. It was trashy when New Labour did it and it's still trashy now.<BR/><BR/>Try:<BR/><BR/>1. Having an idea<BR/>2. Refuting an idea<BR/>3. Getting a better idea as a result.<BR/><BR/>Dialectics all round!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-61889977321442878752008-10-22T21:29:00.000+01:002008-10-22T21:29:00.000+01:00I see Tom Harris has taken umbridge to your post I...I see Tom Harris has taken umbridge to your post Iain.Malchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18191161151984519900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-86356918465296685512008-10-22T21:15:00.000+01:002008-10-22T21:15:00.000+01:00Well said Iain. Today marked a new nadir in Labour...Well said Iain. Today marked a new nadir in Labour's contempt of the Mother of all Parliaments and I really, really can't wait to get rid of this scum. I apologise if that term is a bit strong for your blog, but I can think of no other to describe Brown, Skinner and Martin. The hat does fit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-90720175897674578112008-10-22T20:56:00.000+01:002008-10-22T20:56:00.000+01:00Today I described myself to a colleague as 'right ...Today I described myself to a colleague as 'right wing' in my views. Interestingly, I realized it wasn't so much a badge for my politics, but a signal that I am not a corrupt, bullying, unintelligent liar, who is full of hate and has no idea about fairness or decency!! <BR/><BR/>I'm sure I will not be the only one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40865632903527781792008-10-22T20:46:00.000+01:002008-10-22T20:46:00.000+01:00Since Gorbals Mick, as well as being ignorant and ...Since Gorbals Mick, as well as being ignorant and greedy, has no respect whatsoever for the conventions of parliament, it is time for the Tories to disregard a convention of their own and stand a candidate against him at the next election.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-78528697074599632982008-10-22T20:16:00.000+01:002008-10-22T20:16:00.000+01:00Guess you came to the wrong place, eh? :)Guess you came to the wrong place, eh? :)Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88549602790873878432008-10-22T19:58:00.000+01:002008-10-22T19:58:00.000+01:00Nope, scroll down key is fine Iain. I was looking ...Nope, scroll down key is fine Iain. I was looking for scrutiny rather than staunch defence and rapid rebuttal. Let's not "sod bipartisanship" at this troubled time in the life of our nation ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-10708668489890413932008-10-22T19:47:00.000+01:002008-10-22T19:47:00.000+01:00You clearly have lost use of the scroll down key.You clearly have lost use of the scroll down key.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-37628540391020596492008-10-22T19:45:00.000+01:002008-10-22T19:45:00.000+01:00Popped on to your splendid political blog Iain. Th...Popped on to your splendid political blog Iain. Thought I might find coverage of the major stories of the day. You seem a little shy about the sort of ideas George Osborne might just have floated whilst floating on a boat.<BR/><BR/>Any allegations of potential corruption do need scrutiny. I'm not really interested in the party at the centre of allegations. Let's have a nice big clean up.<BR/><BR/>P.S. It strikes me that if Mandelson has anything to answer for then any investigation should be for the European Commission.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-80493544411527813732008-10-22T19:42:00.000+01:002008-10-22T19:42:00.000+01:00Laurence Boyce, you clearly didn't see the Clerk u...Laurence Boyce, you clearly didn't see the Clerk urging Martin to intervene and rule it out of order.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.com