tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post6284894979010460140..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: John Redwood Hits BackIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-37350190139497921302007-08-14T21:20:00.000+01:002007-08-14T21:20:00.000+01:00Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing. Redwood is an...Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing. <BR/><BR/>Redwood is an obsessive anti-European. Any proposal that threatens workers basics rights is not only insane - it's clueless. A vote winner? No chance. <BR/><BR/>That kind of thinking is completely out of date. The EU is currently growing at nearly twice the rate of the USA and it's ahead of Japan. Read the Economist if you don't believe me. Britain is a top performer. There's nothing wrong with being part of Europe. <BR/><BR/>Redwood is trying to destroy Cameron's chances - just like he tried to destroy the Major government. If David Cameron accepts these proposals he is all but finished.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4685677422120322212007-08-14T19:54:00.000+01:002007-08-14T19:54:00.000+01:00Iain, you say: From what I read in the Sunday Tele...Iain, you say: From what I read in the Sunday Telegraph yesterday most of Redwood's proposals are on the money and essential.<BR/><BR/>Sunday Telegraph backs Tory right-winger's proposals... hardly a turn up for the books; they'd have backed them before reading them...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44200936686997971882007-08-14T19:50:00.000+01:002007-08-14T19:50:00.000+01:00I'm afraid John Redwood is just coming out with th...I'm afraid John Redwood is just coming out with the same delusional thinking of the past. He lives in a fantasy world with no understanding of what he is dealing with in 2007. <BR/><BR/>So, John Redwood thinks the Tories will get on top of Gordon Brown and become popular again by helping businesses and allowing them to make it easier to sack people and make them work longer. <BR/><BR/>Sorry, it's doesn't resonate with me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-42066923507211525712007-08-14T19:27:00.000+01:002007-08-14T19:27:00.000+01:00C4' said... Laurence Boyce is like his near-namesa...C4' said... Laurence Boyce is like his near-namesake from Only Fools & Horses, a pompus twit and buffoon.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Why are you picking on poor Lawrence for Gods sake.You have a blogger who posts under the name of "Little Black Sambo" ,perhaps he should feel your wrath ? You have the ugly sisters "Newmania" and "Tapestry",if for nothing other than being so very tedious they should be rebuked surely.Then we have you,probably the most insignificant blogger to comment here,ever.I will rebuke you for being nasty,It's not clever you know,so stop it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44677871174446468252007-08-14T19:07:00.000+01:002007-08-14T19:07:00.000+01:00And you’re like your near-namesake the Sincl...And you’re like your near-namesake the Sinclair C5. A joke.Laurence Boycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17838530535994771528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-41631964398389279942007-08-14T19:05:00.000+01:002007-08-14T19:05:00.000+01:00Graf von Straf Hindenburg said... ...As you may kn...Graf von Straf Hindenburg said... <BR/><BR/>...As you may know.<BR/><BR/>Didn't know,and don't care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88115331376863247682007-08-14T18:54:00.000+01:002007-08-14T18:54:00.000+01:00Newmania said... Oh sweet a congenital imbecile al...Newmania said... <BR/><BR/>Oh sweet a congenital imbecile all of my own ....<BR/><BR/>You deserve one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87098994338072447312007-08-14T16:36:00.000+01:002007-08-14T16:36:00.000+01:00Laurence Boyce is like his near-namesake from Only...Laurence Boyce is like his near-namesake from <I>Only Fools & Horses</I>, a pompus twit and buffoon.Sir-C4'https://www.blogger.com/profile/03917709983378003032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63558197266952161872007-08-14T16:06:00.000+01:002007-08-14T16:06:00.000+01:00"Redwood, lest we forget, is a public sector perso..."Redwood, lest we forget, is a public sector person, an academic turned MP."<BR/><BR/>That's been shown to be untrue, but feel free to carry on. <BR/><BR/>"But it (reopening of final salary schemes) won't happen. Will it?"<BR/><BR/>Do you understand why these hit the wall in the first place? <BR/><BR/>regulation, FRS17, weakness of stock market, changes to tax regime. Some <A HREF="http://www.tradeangles.fsbusiness.co.uk/articles/frs17.htm" REL="nofollow"> further reading</A>. I should warn you that it might be beyond you, based on your previous comments.Praguetoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16520923731691837948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-24694894691886392512007-08-14T15:44:00.000+01:002007-08-14T15:44:00.000+01:00It might well be what he meant, prageutory. But it...It might well be what he meant, prageutory. But it won't happen. Will it?<BR/><BR/>Redwood, lest we forget, is a public sector person, an academic turned MP. That's all he understands.David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-74432803675398177632007-08-14T14:50:00.000+01:002007-08-14T14:50:00.000+01:00...As you may know, I refuse to link to any of the......As you may know, I refuse to link to any of the Downing Street petitions because they're a waste of time...<BR/><BR/>Got it in one, Iain plus they now have you on file once the big shut-down happens. Well, not you because you refuse to sign them.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-62280161936554088742007-08-14T14:18:00.000+01:002007-08-14T14:18:00.000+01:00Yes, I think that the anonymous sniping is a huge ...Yes, I think that the anonymous sniping is a huge turn off, especially for women. What I didn’t respond to were the suggestions that I am more dull and overweight than Redwood. That may well be true, but it’s very much by the way because I’m not standing for office.Laurence Boycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17838530535994771528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-67076687127351868272007-08-14T14:06:00.000+01:002007-08-14T14:06:00.000+01:00Oh sweet a congenital imbecile all of my own ........Oh sweet a congenital imbecile all of my own .....Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-25460169287137058792007-08-14T12:58:00.000+01:002007-08-14T12:58:00.000+01:00Laurence Boyce said... Thanks for those penetratin...Laurence Boyce said... <BR/><BR/>Thanks for those penetrating insights “bebopper.” I shan’t bother to respond because you’re just one of the many anonymous snipers who routinely spoil this site for others.<BR/><BR/>But you did respond,silly.Bit arrogant the "spoil this site for others" bit.You speak for the others do you ? However I agree with your put down of Little Black Sambo,a nasty bit of work.Agree with the Redwood comments too,the man is a disaster.But we in the Labour Party love him to bits.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-71440742020224575412007-08-14T12:47:00.000+01:002007-08-14T12:47:00.000+01:00Newmania said...Dump this buffoon,and soon.Newmania said...<BR/>Dump this buffoon,and soon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-71149669409736256542007-08-14T12:42:00.000+01:002007-08-14T12:42:00.000+01:00Little Black Sambo said... Laurence Boyce says Beb...Little Black Sambo said... <BR/><BR/>Laurence Boyce says Bebopper is one of those who "routinely spoil this site for others". <BR/><BR/>You spoil this and any blog where you appear.You disgusting bigot,you and your ilk should be the bloggers that Dales' censures.But he does not,I know not why.You have allowed this nasty fellow to post with comment moderation on,shame on you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-27993856424484370642007-08-14T12:30:00.000+01:002007-08-14T12:30:00.000+01:00Newmania said...Tapestry said...Girls,girls you ta...Newmania said...Tapestry said...<BR/><BR/>Girls,girls you talk far too much.You need to appreciate that you are a very boring ladies,and should spend more time doing the housework,and less time posting here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-34894834699601394272007-08-14T10:36:00.000+01:002007-08-14T10:36:00.000+01:00The danger is that it will be seen as a division a...The danger is that it will be seen as a division against Cameron. Almost a right wing coup.( Toynbee is already suggesting as much) Encouraging SME`s de-regulating and rolling back the state are all good things. Improving employment is a good thing and we do desperately need freedom to provide community care and nursey care come to that. Elf and Safety is failing as it is .Accidents are going up such is the self defeating nature of this rotting edifice. Anyone actually working with it knows what a disaster it has become .It has also, incidentally ,been badly under funded in a typical New Labour delivery foul up .Redwoods study however, is easily spun as an attack on workers life quality and environmental policy though an thereby anti Cameron move. This must not happen.<BR/><BR/>There has to be a consistency between the Cameron pastel shades of Liberalism and the de regulation of Redwood and I think there is a way to bring the two sides together . Cameron is against big government and looking for ways to empower communities, the small battalions . Local small business is vital for any real community and that is exactly the type that Brown has killed off .Whatever he says about new start ups ( self employed former employees that noone will now employ permanently ) . He likes big business because it likes government control .Big business enjoys s regulation and in fact any barrier to competition. Small business at some levels has also been under attack from mass immigration costs and red tape. <BR/>In small business regulation is sheer cost as pro-tem arrangements are unavoidable in real life . Simply forms and costs . These are the sort of oppositions <BR/>Brown supports the supermarket<BR/>Brown supports Euro homogeneity <BR/>Brown supports mass immigration<BR/>Brown supports hyper earning Private equity<BR/>Brown supports and Unionised Public Sector <BR/>Brown supports flabby big business<BR/>Brown supports bureaucracy<BR/>Brown supports bullying government <BR/>Brown has big plans which he imposes<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Conservatism must be presented as a light touch localist approach and would be best presented in tandem with other measures to bring out its support of communities through local business. Nulab's irrational over-regulation cuts SME productivity and profits by as much as 20% and creates unsustainable stress for SMEs - which amount to over 50% of the UK's economy and which employ almost 60% of UK workers - and for SME owners and staff. This is the word we all live in I would like to see the humanising aspects of the initiative brought out and those parts of it they appear doctrinally Thatcherite pruned away. The whole can be presented as modern small scale but highly reactive as opposed to the Stalinist five year plan.<BR/><BR/>It must be an agenda that wavering Liberals can sign up to. The centre ground is not socialist it is, however , suspicious of the free market. We cannot abandon the centre and we must not.WE cannot have a Redwood Party in the Conservative PartyNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-62729363388557016302007-08-14T09:30:00.000+01:002007-08-14T09:30:00.000+01:00Deregulation can make sense.But getting Redwood to...Deregulation can make sense.<BR/><BR/>But getting Redwood to present it? Any message he has to say will be ruined by the barrage of personal attacks against him. The bloke's less popular than Chris Langham.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-84457562241483981582007-08-14T09:12:00.000+01:002007-08-14T09:12:00.000+01:00What does John Redwood know about business? Quite...What does John Redwood know about business? Quite a lot - he has been a director of NM Rothschild merchant bank and chairman of a quoted industrial PLC.<BR/><BR/>Presumably, David Lindsay, he knows a lot more about business than you do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-23284406168045696182007-08-14T07:17:00.000+01:002007-08-14T07:17:00.000+01:00For the first time in months John Redwood gave "Ne...For the first time in months John Redwood gave "Newsnight" a bloody nose...Kirsty Wark tried to interrupt his flow many times with pro Labour jibes...he just walked (talked) all over her..lets see more of this from the Tories.Nedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01105597029618542257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-43072186042028487762007-08-14T06:34:00.000+01:002007-08-14T06:34:00.000+01:00Those are some rather uncalled for remarks about L...Those are some rather uncalled for remarks about Laurence , Bebopper, and Redwood does have unprepossessing manner. On the other hand Gordon Brown is equally unappealing , more nerdy and clammy palmed and alien . Its interesting how the MSM seem to have not noticed whereas Redwood a comparatively minor figure ( unfortunately) is always treated with personal invective . Believe it or not I was talking a producer on radio Four who is an ex stand-up and involved with BBC comedy . She said to me everyone is so grateful for Cameron Brown is just boring .<BR/>It shows you the way the bias at a cellular level. Gordon Brown at my school would have been mercilessly scalpelled for his peculiar ticks , oddity and fascistic power crazed zealotry. They cannot see it but then he pays them not to.Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-61780457368525253962007-08-14T01:58:00.000+01:002007-08-14T01:58:00.000+01:00JOHN REDWOOD… is this a joke. Tories spinners seem...JOHN REDWOOD… is this a joke. Tories spinners seem to have lost the plot. JR stands for every thing Camera On is not, or rather pretends not to be. He is and will always be the boggie man from the far right.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08154883691100377834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-69518950875610995412007-08-14T01:55:00.000+01:002007-08-14T01:55:00.000+01:00JOHN REDWOOD… is this a joke. Tories spinners unde...JOHN REDWOOD… is this a joke. Tories spinners under seem to have lost the plot. JR stands for every thing Camera On is not, or rather pretends not to be. He is and will always be the boggie man from the far right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2475492730478580572007-08-14T01:44:00.000+01:002007-08-14T01:44:00.000+01:00Oh no! I have been criticised by “Bebopper&r...Oh no! I have been criticised by “Bebopper” <I>and</I> “Little Black Sambo” in one evening! I am now mortified beyond measure!Laurence Boycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17838530535994771528noreply@blogger.com