tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post6060209521446808390..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: LibDem Sanctimonious Hypocrisy: No 94Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-16764888564834458032008-12-24T11:50:00.000+00:002008-12-24T11:50:00.000+00:00Seems like a storm in a teacup, Iain. Merry Chris...Seems like a storm in a teacup, Iain. Merry Christmas to you.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2237876888968172802008-12-23T17:59:00.000+00:002008-12-23T17:59:00.000+00:00Aside from all this nonsense, can I just offer the...Aside from all this nonsense, can I just offer the advice that if you are confronted with rebellious teenagers in the street the best thing to do is to remember their descriptions and report them to the police non-emergency line (or emergency line if a crime is being committed) out of sight of them.<BR/><BR/>Challenging them by insulting their clothing is the best way to end up in a mortuary.Paul Walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00525444717679391831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-28988493224815632242008-12-23T17:33:00.000+00:002008-12-23T17:33:00.000+00:00December 22, 2008 11:55 PMI have to agree with Nor...<B>December 22, 2008 11:55 PM</B><BR/><BR/>I have to agree with Norfolk Blogger, it is actually funny that Iain said that to the boy. I personally would have done the same if I was in Iain's shoes and the tracksuit looked gay.<BR/><BR/>Well not really, I would have actually kicked the day lights out of him!Administratorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15201045837141810889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-10901939119033693752008-12-23T17:00:00.000+00:002008-12-23T17:00:00.000+00:00I would have stabbed the little shit.SortedI would have stabbed the little shit.<BR/><BR/>SortedOld Holbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10164491045068093627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-68279973433587344652008-12-23T16:29:00.000+00:002008-12-23T16:29:00.000+00:00He 'went silent' because Iain challenged his brava...He 'went silent' because Iain challenged his bravado. Not because Iain hurt his feelings. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76843583224147037522008-12-23T15:04:00.000+00:002008-12-23T15:04:00.000+00:00"Get over yourself. That child was no more hurt by..."Get over yourself. That child was no more hurt by it than the reporter was hurt by him calling him a c***. As I say, you weren't there, I was."<BR/><BR/>But you said he went quiet. Isn't that a good sign? Children and teenagers swear to cover up for their feelings of inadequacy.Paul Walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00525444717679391831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-11845265548000649612008-12-23T14:51:00.000+00:002008-12-23T14:51:00.000+00:00This whole episode shows how dysfunctional and irr...This whole episode shows how dysfunctional and irrational the PC concept is.<BR/><BR/>A curse upon the Righteous!Roger Thornhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03591327286533118901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-8265781605646442472008-12-23T14:40:00.000+00:002008-12-23T14:40:00.000+00:00Iain's still reading Richard Milhouse Nixon's crib...Iain's still reading Richard Milhouse Nixon's crib sheets I see. :)Stephen Glennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03027718551675624433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-26817883528036140242008-12-23T14:37:00.000+00:002008-12-23T14:37:00.000+00:00Burbler, "a 13 year old who will now bear that hur...Burbler, "a 13 year old who will now bear that hurt for some considerable time."<BR/><BR/>That really is grasping at straws. 'hurt'?! As if! :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-59358189237270695362008-12-23T14:12:00.000+00:002008-12-23T14:12:00.000+00:00Get over yourself. That child was no more hurt by ...Get over yourself. That child was no more hurt by it than the reporter was hurt by him calling him a c***. As I say, you weren't there, I was.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57653263761186518282008-12-23T14:11:00.000+00:002008-12-23T14:11:00.000+00:00The point he used "irony" to defuse the situation ...The point he used "irony" to defuse the situation at the disadvantage of a 13 year old who will now bear that hurt for some considerable time.Paul Walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00525444717679391831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-90808028485680572912008-12-23T14:03:00.000+00:002008-12-23T14:03:00.000+00:00"Humour brings insight and tolerance. Irony brings..."Humour brings insight and tolerance. Irony brings a deeper and less friendly understanding."<BR/>Agnes RepplierAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-23938094874044023082008-12-23T13:57:00.000+00:002008-12-23T13:57:00.000+00:00Iain said "Various LibDem blogs (HERE, HERE and HE...Iain said "Various LibDem blogs (HERE, HERE and HERE) have been having a right old go at me this evening, accusing me of homophobia (I ask you) for telling someone their tracksuit was "a bit gay"."<BR/><BR/>I'm saying Iain used irony to diffuse the situation. It worked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-80556919672652200862008-12-23T13:40:00.000+00:002008-12-23T13:40:00.000+00:00Indeed Stephen. The hide of a rhinocerous and all ...Indeed Stephen. The hide of a rhinocerous and all that.Paul Walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00525444717679391831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-64459544437938827662008-12-23T13:37:00.000+00:002008-12-23T13:37:00.000+00:00Well Burbler haing been called a hyporite, sangtam...Well Burbler haing been called a hyporite, sangtamoneous, a muppet and accused by someone who doesn't know me that I have "personality" issues in the last 24 hours, I like to say you don't have to be an Elephant to be a Liberal Democrat but it helps.Stephen Glennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03027718551675624433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-73083668089667242252008-12-23T13:30:00.000+00:002008-12-23T13:30:00.000+00:00"Do you have to be a sanctimonious tit in order to..."Do you have to be a sanctimonious tit in order to join the LibDems, or does joining them turn you into one?"<BR/><BR/>On the one hand, yes. On the other hand, no. And then again, perhaps both. .....or neither. Only time will tell.Paul Walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00525444717679391831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-29816635868571428602008-12-23T13:29:00.000+00:002008-12-23T13:29:00.000+00:00"burbler, that's because he's not." Of course, I k..."burbler, that's because he's not." Of course, I know and knew he's not.<BR/><BR/>"And Iain wasn't promoting or endorsing homophobia either"<BR/><BR/>I agree. I didn't say either things and no one has actually written that either, apart from some people who have fabricated the charge that some bloggers called Iain "homophobic" or a "homophobe".<BR/><BR/>Reading Iain's post he wasn't actually trying to be humourous - he was trying to shut up the teenagers.Paul Walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00525444717679391831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-18304337208622086132008-12-23T13:27:00.000+00:002008-12-23T13:27:00.000+00:00Do you have to be a sanctimonious tit in order to ...Do you have to be a sanctimonious tit in order to join the LibDems, or does joining them turn you into one? <BR/><BR/>We need to know.Windsor Tripehoundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16923036087016324862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-21731217196938411902008-12-23T13:18:00.000+00:002008-12-23T13:18:00.000+00:00Canvas the LBGT community are not averse to words ...Canvas the LBGT community are not averse to words being grabbed to mean something new:<BR/><BR/>'Faggot' were the charred remains left over or the cheap cut of met.<BR/><BR/>'Queer' meant peculiuar and out of sorts.<BR/><BR/>So the LBGT community grabbed the word 'gay' to tell the world we're happy about who we are. And 'pride' to show that in public.<BR/><BR/>The word gay has now be highjacked by a new generation to me stupid, crap, out of sorts. The same thing applies it is because gay in not the majority stand point.<BR/><BR/>Entimology lesson over. Because and I stress it again I KNOW Iain didn't use it in a homophobic context, however it doesn't mean that others don't.Stephen Glennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03027718551675624433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-41697635244038136202008-12-23T13:11:00.000+00:002008-12-23T13:11:00.000+00:00burbler, that's because he's not. And Iain wasn't ...burbler, that's because he's not. And Iain wasn't promoting or endorsing homophobia either. He used a phrase that makes people nervous. I understand why it could make people nervous - but humour and irony is subjective... In this instance Iain 'got it'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-38080155045649496382008-12-23T13:07:00.000+00:002008-12-23T13:07:00.000+00:00Noone has actually called Iain a homophobe that I ...Noone has actually called Iain a homophobe that I have seen.Paul Walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00525444717679391831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-58549165597775494852008-12-23T12:52:00.000+00:002008-12-23T12:52:00.000+00:00I would hardly consider Iain a homophobe. The fac...I would hardly consider Iain a homophobe. The fact that Iain was comfortable enough with the phrase to use it shows that the humour, the irony, was enough to diffuse the situation. I personally am more offended by 13 year olds using the 'C' word. Now that's offensive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-5116462925411584062008-12-23T12:33:00.000+00:002008-12-23T12:33:00.000+00:00Canvas considering I start my entry by linking to ...Canvas considering I start my entry by linking to a Facebook group that condones that usage because it is a put down I don't that hold much water.<BR/><BR/>It is the use as a put down, a silencer (in this case sucessfully) that I do object to.<BR/><BR/>Not in the word of my native Ulster gie me 'ead peace.Stephen Glennhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03027718551675624433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-24243146107404730202008-12-23T12:23:00.000+00:002008-12-23T12:23:00.000+00:00Iain, the problem might be the phrase "a bit gay" ...Iain, the problem might be the phrase "a bit gay" is 'yoof' lingo - it's not at all politically incorrect or homophobic. The people who complained to you are probably just too old or too square to get it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72300413523986819472008-12-23T11:56:00.000+00:002008-12-23T11:56:00.000+00:00Sorry Iain, I forgot to ask the really important q...Sorry Iain, I forgot to ask the really important question.<BR/><BR/>When will this be on You Tube so we can all make our own minds about the incident?<BR/><BR/>;-)))Paul Walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00525444717679391831noreply@blogger.com