tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post5836014622374631840..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: The Shameful Conduct of the League Against Cruel SportsIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger76125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-62372372443198497812009-12-18T08:58:17.800+00:002009-12-18T08:58:17.800+00:00Anyone who thinks foxes kill 'for fun' kno...Anyone who thinks foxes kill 'for fun' knows nothing about the species. I am well aware of how foxes kill and understand that they do it to survive. If they leave dead chickens in a coop, it is generally because they have been disturbed. A number of years ago I worked with ex-batt chickens and find that rats are actually a bigger problem on farms, however if your coop is secured sufficiently you won't have a problem. Rats, foxes, etc. might try to get in, but they won't be able to if you are keeping your chickens properly.<br />May I also remind you that, if you choose to live in the countryside, you are encroaching on the fox's natural habitat and should put up with them as such. I have no problem with culling or hunting for food, if done humanely; fox hunting with dogs is not humane. It is also ironic that the people who campaign against the fox as 'evil' and 'a senseless killer' also support the species being eradicated in the same manner. Surely that makes you no better than the 'vermin' you so vehemently despise.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14834262472106424462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76441274858970734092009-06-05T18:47:51.403+01:002009-06-05T18:47:51.403+01:00Hey CT, I happen to love all animals, including fi...Hey CT, I happen to love all animals, including fish! But the people commenting on this blog have some serious issues if they see nothing wrong with abusing an animal for the fun of it.<br />I've witnessed a vixen being dug out along with her cubs after coming across a hunt in progress. The poor animal was screaming and absolutely terrified, I could see the trauma in her face. Her cubs were whimpering too and it destroyed me knowing I could do nothing to help them.<br />But if I ever come across this kind of torture again, God help the b*****ds doing the killing, because I won't be able to stop myself from wading in!!!!!!!!!!!<br />Now all you other poor excuses for human beings, do try to find a conscience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40385438176047396652009-06-03T15:34:41.620+01:002009-06-03T15:34:41.620+01:00If the quality of the pro-hunting arguments posted...If the quality of the pro-hunting arguments posted here are anything to go by, the Conservatives should be very concerned about jumping into bed with the hunting lobby. If the Conservatives really want to be regarded as modern and compassionate by core voters, party strategists should consider how this makes the party appear.<br /><br />It isn't a vote decider on its own, but certainly adds to the drip, drip of the 'nasty party' tag so difficult to shake off. Expect much more of this in the coming months - something Cameron can well do without.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76147288886005465192009-06-02T10:35:11.530+01:002009-06-02T10:35:11.530+01:00Anonymous @ 9:21
Are fish, grubs and worms not cu...Anonymous @ 9:21<br /><br />Are fish, grubs and worms not cuddly enough for you?<br /><br />Please tell us why you think that the killing of a relatively small number of animals for pleasure is a bad thing but that the pointless death of millions of others needn't concern us at all.CTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-85224123396169113332009-06-02T09:48:59.411+01:002009-06-02T09:48:59.411+01:00The Tory party is out of touch on hunting and woul...The Tory party is out of touch on hunting and would lose votes over this issue. The existing laws against hunting need to be enforced and strengthened.Colin Jones Rhylnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-34784374853524610942009-06-02T09:21:30.622+01:002009-06-02T09:21:30.622+01:00It never ceases to astound me how people like CT c...It never ceases to astound me how people like CT can make such ridiculous remarks, comparing foxes to worms and grubs. I mean I could make that comparison with you lot, you're all so ignorant.<br />Other nonsense remarks were the usual class hatred thingy, which is complete rubbish. Hunting with dogs is as much a poor man's blood-sport as the rich. Hell, one of my neighbours, a gas fitter, goes out with the local mounted hunt.<br />Terrier-work is a nasty part of hunting, employed to dig out a terrified vixen [gone to ground], possibly pregnant, throw her [stinking in her own blood and urine]into a sack, then release her just ahead of the hounds. This is routine for most hunts if they want to prolong the chase. Problem is for the poor fox, even the worst hounds in the world will track her down.<br />Now any of you who think this kind of cruelty is acceptable, have to be dangerously physcotic and should be locked up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-71087872522743567792009-06-02T08:49:21.250+01:002009-06-02T08:49:21.250+01:00Those accusing LACS and campaigners like myself sh...Those accusing LACS and campaigners like myself should search the internet before spouting off. I'm a avid campaigner against hunting, yet I find time to protest against halal.<br />In the last few months I've done two demo's against religious slaughter [one outside a slaughterhouse] and I have more planned.<br />Now what are you lot going to do about it? Or are your accusations just some lousy way of having a go at compassionate people for daring to speak out against hunting [for fun] atrocities?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88328811873096399352009-06-02T05:53:41.788+01:002009-06-02T05:53:41.788+01:00....interestingly LACS have also been making noise.......interestingly LACS have also been making noises about direct campaign support in marginal seats in response to the hunting fraternity's Vote OK operation. Given they've a fraction of the membership of the Countryside Alliance it's pretty evidently hot air rather than real feet on the street.<br /><br />But you might like to consider this Iain. Vote OK is apparently wholly separate from the Countryside Alliance to keep to the Countryside Alliance's charitable status. LACS doing the same things as Vote OK and still claiming charitable status presumably is also a breach of said charitable status.<br /><br />Typically hypocritical class warriors, screaming like banshies about 'the Hunting Act is law' and then flagrantly breaking the laws on charitable status and political donations for legislation.John Hutton, the one true prophet,http://www.vote-ok.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-86090194672782949242009-06-01T23:24:51.438+01:002009-06-01T23:24:51.438+01:00Not a cheep from LACS re angling - they are utter ...Not a cheep from LACS re angling - they are utter hypocrites. I took them to task a couple of years ago when their site displayed a lengthy policy on every activity under the sun involving animals.<br /><br />However, on angling it said "The League has no policy on angling." Even this has now disappeared.<br /><br />Several million people go angling every week. That means the needless distress or death of millions of fish and the killing of millions of grubs and worms. <br /><br />I concluded that since angling is largely a working-class sport they didn't want to upset too many donors and Labour voters.CTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-83175336326931890282009-06-01T19:35:41.227+01:002009-06-01T19:35:41.227+01:00I cannot believe that even astute political analys...I cannot believe that even astute political analysts like Ian Dale have not done a "back of an envelope' calculation as to just how many ordinary citizens have felt betrayed but the current administration over single issues such as hunting, smoking etc. This must add up to a significant vote to whom ever promises to address perceived wrongs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-27762094832097491932009-06-01T18:54:39.935+01:002009-06-01T18:54:39.935+01:00Their charitable objects state that they engage in...Their charitable objects state that they engage in political campaigning and, on checking, they are indeed a Third Party registered with the Electoral Commission.<br /><br />So I don't see anything wrong in what they've done. <br /><br />If they had said "Tory Bad, Labour Good", it would be a different story. But they didn't. Good luck to them - I actually think it's rather ingenious!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-46116093718961929222009-06-01T18:54:25.359+01:002009-06-01T18:54:25.359+01:00To June - I'm a hunting activist and I am vegetari...To June - I'm a hunting activist and I am vegetarian<br /><br />To the rest of you - the hunting ban exists, get over it, live with it, move on!Babzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18182524888622005409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2950886002071269132009-06-01T17:15:23.101+01:002009-06-01T17:15:23.101+01:00Oh another thing Wrinkled Weasel: have you ever wa...Oh another thing Wrinkled Weasel: have you ever watched a cat and the birds?<br /><br />Most cats just are not fast enough, and the birds they catch are either sick or old. <br /><br />And no cat can sneak out with the entire local bird population not reporting on it's every movement either. Also, cats don't do flying very well, and so, mice are far easier to catch anyway.<br /><br />Talking of flying -- how many magpies and crows do you have round your way?<br /><br />Because those guys actually go into nests (cats don't usually climb trees because getting down is always an issue) and empty them out wholesale of eggs and/or chicks. Check it out in spring, watch the parents try and get the magpie gangs away from their nests -- they also do team work, one party goads the other raids.Cinnamonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-9059391091254979712009-06-01T17:06:18.212+01:002009-06-01T17:06:18.212+01:00Iain, it looks like the LAC were just using the no...Iain, it looks like the LAC were just using the normal anti-BNP tricks on the Tories here.<br /><br />It's a real crap way of dealing with opponents, it just trolls people, ossifies positions and makes the people who pull the stunt look stupid and the victims reasonable.<br /><br />Losers all round.<br />---<br />@Wrinkled Weasel:<br /><br />Stop blaming foxes for your mistakes, you leave your chooks unprotected in sloppily build shelters and of course the fox is going to dine (duh)Cinnamonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-60288724654109345242009-06-01T15:49:46.047+01:002009-06-01T15:49:46.047+01:00I may be completely wrong about this, but wasn't Y...I may be completely wrong about this, but wasn't YouGov founded by the same Stephan Shakespeare who funds ConservativeHome.com?Annanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-15150847315369281512009-06-01T15:45:24.100+01:002009-06-01T15:45:24.100+01:00Generally, I'm ag'in hunting for sport, but bannin...Generally, I'm ag'in hunting for sport, but banning sticking ceremony on something distasteful that was going to happen anyway is a bridge too far.<br /><br />I mean what next, banning abortion parties where groups of young mothers sitting around drinking spirits and cheering that they've got their lives back?<br /><br />It might be distasteful, but it probably shouldn't be illegal, provided that the hunters take legal responsibility for any damage caused during the hunt - I know of one girl whose cat was killed when the hounds decided to follow the fox through their land.<br /><br />That said, there's been far too much ink and parliamentary time wasted on this subject - and bringing back target shooting has been waiting for longer.The Unspeakable in Pursuit of the Uneatable.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-65838126873077584662009-06-01T14:55:21.922+01:002009-06-01T14:55:21.922+01:00Well there goes a large part of their subscription...Well there goes a large part of their subscriptions from rural areas! Stupid Left Wing idiots. Foxes near chicken runs should be shot on sight.Farmer Gilesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76859178388708251692009-06-01T14:50:41.564+01:002009-06-01T14:50:41.564+01:00So many 'charities' are simply lobby groups.
By ...So many 'charities' are simply lobby groups. <br /><br />By being a registered charity does that enable you to evade tax or something? Eg. Church of England can reclaim back a portion of donations if you fill in your details?Philipahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03440234602399886097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-90751596535298099342009-06-01T14:50:21.759+01:002009-06-01T14:50:21.759+01:00Either they are a charity or a Registered Third Pa...Either they are a charity or a Registered Third Party.<br /><br />They should decide what they want to be.<br /><br />Meanwhile, the campaign group: "Ban Childworkers from our Mines" will issue a press release, soon.Thats Newshttp://thatsnews.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-71237147053634189942009-06-01T14:42:58.682+01:002009-06-01T14:42:58.682+01:00The Charity Commission, as the independent regulat...The Charity Commission, as the independent regulator for charities in England and Wales, is aware of this issue and looking into it to see what regulatory role, if any, there may be for us. We will not comment further on this specific case at this stage, but guidance for charities on campaigning (called Speaking Out - CC9), and guidance for charities during election periods, is available on our website here: http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/publications/ccpubs3.aspCharity Commissionhttp://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-18481010483620563242009-06-01T14:22:09.204+01:002009-06-01T14:22:09.204+01:00Breed pitbulls to attack certain people !!! know w...Breed pitbulls to attack certain people !!! know who I mean !!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-26907009519354954632009-06-01T13:17:08.463+01:002009-06-01T13:17:08.463+01:00Nearly all the bases have been covered here, thoug...Nearly all the bases have been covered here, though this<br /><br />http://wrinkledweasel.blogspot.com/2009/05/cat-lovers-responsible-for-60-million.html<br /><br />may cast some light on the reality of "animal lovers"<br /><br />Also, I keep chickens. I have suffered four fox attacks in five years. I invite all stinkies and vegans to come and look at the way a fox kills chickens. The fox does not kill to eat, it kills because it likes killing.<br /><br />Hunt supporters do not injure babies or decapitate sabs with helicopter blades. Neither to they send poison letters or exhume grannies.<br /><br />If you want to know who has the moral high ground on this, just look at the facts.<br /><br />Meanwhile, if it had not been for the fact that Damien McBride had left Downing Street, I would have guessed this had all the hallmarks of a Number Ten black propaganda operation.<br /><br />Hey Ho, the feckers are all toast anyway. This just smacks of desperation politics.<br /><br />And thank you Iain for posting it.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-81503672762886150912009-06-01T13:16:30.373+01:002009-06-01T13:16:30.373+01:00I really think these tosspots are trying to be con...I really think these tosspots are trying to be controversial in a vain attempt to generate more revenue. <br /><br />I wouldn't be at all surprised if their cashflow is plummeting during these tough times. I guess its better to be noticed than ignored.<br /><br />Besides, foxes are pricks, as any farmer will tell you. I've known them to enter a chicken coop, slaughter ever single one and not eat a single one. They are vermin that need to be treated as such. <br /><br />Watching hunt sabateurs blunder into the hands of robust farm labourers is always a good laugh though.<br /><br />Sod the greens and their ilk.happyukhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02459558077829920642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-42056014290236647342009-06-01T12:59:04.923+01:002009-06-01T12:59:04.923+01:00Mr Dale
If you and your party sup with such odiou...Mr Dale<br /><br />If you and your party sup with such odious people as those who get a kick from chasing and killing British wildlife then it is no surprise that you get flack for it. You have not seen anything yet!<br />You are the poltical mouthpieces of the Countryside Alliance bloodsports organisation and they will be the ruin of you..<br />Notice how you have got your nickers in a twist. It shows just how this subject worries you and so it should.Carolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-25330817703428640522009-06-01T12:58:45.706+01:002009-06-01T12:58:45.706+01:00Good for LAS.
Once again they made you look like ...Good for LAS.<br /><br />Once again they made you look like a fool for not having even a passing knowledge of the legislation you cite with apparent authority.<br /><br />How do you still get work?Tonynoreply@blogger.com