tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post5421346762296557649..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Brown Skewered by Cameron (And Cable!)Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-65747201925424844322007-11-30T00:05:00.000+00:002007-11-30T00:05:00.000+00:00Having dismissed Cable’s comment about “Mr Bean” a...Having dismissed Cable’s comment about “Mr Bean” as a Christmas cracker joke, I would everybody to know that Cable is a plagiarist! The real writer is Leo McKinstry who used this comment about Comrade Brown – along with likening him to Nixon – in an interesting piece of analysis in the Daily Express on 19 November. This is the link:<BR/><BR/>http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/25661/PM-a-cross-between-Mr-Bean-and-Nixon-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-10752747876623880602007-11-29T12:49:00.000+00:002007-11-29T12:49:00.000+00:00There is no such thing as "gift tax" and gifts to ...There is no such thing as "gift tax" and gifts to political parties are exempt from inheritance tax. <BR/><BR/>Why do people invent taxes and laws that do not exist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-90738220840173001202007-11-29T05:34:00.000+00:002007-11-29T05:34:00.000+00:00So what comes next? We all know that something is...So what comes next? We all know that something is going to blow and a great many top Labour grunters are having some sleepless nights. In the newspaper office's and in many homes there must be a great many frantic people trawling through photographs to find a deadly handshake, or two!Vienna Woodshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03957194230173008975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-24276237819876622282007-11-28T23:09:00.000+00:002007-11-28T23:09:00.000+00:00NewmaniaThank you for that wonderful image of Grey...Newmania<BR/><BR/>Thank you for that wonderful image of Greyfriars Bobby.<BR/><BR/>It describes the defiant Labour cultists so perfectly. I had not got further than thinking of them as farting against thunder.<BR/><BR/>Victor, NW KentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-11563042042033624182007-11-28T22:37:00.000+00:002007-11-28T22:37:00.000+00:00Walter said... "1) Tax - if the arrangement descri...Walter said... <BR/><BR/>"1) Tax - if the arrangement described (giving money to others who then pass it on) is correct, then gift tax needs to be paid. It hasn't."<BR/><BR/>What is this Gift Tax? I didn't know there was such a thing in the UK. Are you confusing it with Inheritance Tax?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-25183899230099567342007-11-28T21:28:00.000+00:002007-11-28T21:28:00.000+00:00Perhaps Gordon's letter is already in the post.......Perhaps Gordon's letter is already in the post.....<BR/><BR/>Dear Tony, my dear and trusted friend and soulmate, I miss you terribly. I wish it was like it used to be before you left me -- oh, the happy times we had! Why did you leave me all alone? If I ever did anything to upset you, you know I never meant it and it was all just a silly misunderstanding on my part. It's lonely without you -- please come back to me and we can be a happy pair again. You're devoted friend, Gordon, xxxGut Instinctshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12677656944504954517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-26517378741254064032007-11-28T21:06:00.000+00:002007-11-28T21:06:00.000+00:00I would like to join the throng in pointing out th...I would like to join the throng in pointing out that David Boothroyd is on another planet – or perhaps he is just living in the wrong country as he appears to want a permanent Socialist government and – de facto – one party Socialist state. <BR/><BR/>Moreover – like so many Lefties – he shows a blatant disregard for the facts when they don’t suit his argument. Although he tries to suggest his opponents are the ones who are deluded! When he says: “this is all just a load of flimflam got up by the usual suspects - the Tory press, the tory blogosphere…you know the rabble I mean.” - he needs to hold a mirror to the Labour Party to see they are “the rabble” who have brought this on themselves.<BR/><BR/>Another delusion is his assertion: “This is basically a centre-left country” when the Conservatives held office – in the 20th century – for 16 terms when his party managed a dismal eight [and dismal is one word to describe Labour governments]. <BR/><BR/>As for this ridiculous statement: “Nobody's ever come back to win from the pasting you took in 2005” – he ought to look at more recent Labour Party history when Michael Foot – and the British electorate – nearly killed off the Labour Party.<BR/><BR/>But one thing I am in agreement with David Boothroyd over is Vincent Cable’s Christmas cracker joke about Mr Bean. Considering Cable is known as “Brutus” for his role in backstabbing his last two leaders [perhaps they gave him the acting leader role so he couldn’t backstab himself?], it sounds rather hypocritical to dub an opponent with a nickname too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-66352644086228307922007-11-28T20:30:00.000+00:002007-11-28T20:30:00.000+00:00If gordon spouts that crap about 10yrs of blah bla...If gordon spouts that crap about 10yrs of blah blah again i will kick the telly that was blair not brown and its all bullshit anyway.In his 155 days he has shown he is not half the man blair was and he was a rodent.<BR/>If brown was a "real" man he would have left politics to look after his sick kid im sure a cushy job would be found 3 days a week £100k per annum.He is just an ego on legs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-36213574314365599982007-11-28T17:50:00.000+00:002007-11-28T17:50:00.000+00:00Brown is increasingly like Janice Dickinson "I use...Brown is increasingly like Janice Dickinson "I used to be a supermodel you know". In both cases the emperor's tailors are long gone.Mulliganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12445624135697167219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72984574367378355792007-11-28T17:45:00.000+00:002007-11-28T17:45:00.000+00:00PMQs is excellent - if a little predictable as yet...PMQs is excellent - if a little predictable as yet again, Brown comes over as being an utter pillock who has been promoted far beyond his talent. But for me, I just loved the half hour before PMQs on the Daily Politics. Watching Roy 'jowls' Hattersley losing it against Andrew Neil as he tried to defend the indefensible behaviour of LoanGate and the Whitty enquiry which is supposed to 'seek the truth' was a joy to behold. Talk about wall-to-wall gob and spittle - I thought Hattersley was going to have a sputum induced coronary. The Labour hierachy must really be desperate if they are wheeling such old has-beens as Hattersley out to defend their behaviour. <BR/><BR/>I remember Whitty from years ago - he's a doormat Labour man through and through. He will come up with the answer that Gordon wants. I just wonder what function the judge and the bishop will fulfil - aside from giving this stitch up some credence.... Surely they can see they are going to be little more than patsies?Alfiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04135869751268396259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-18198483118840617792007-11-28T17:33:00.000+00:002007-11-28T17:33:00.000+00:00Can't understand glee over DC's performance, which...Can't understand glee over DC's performance, which I found disappointing.<BR/>Brown looked untroubled about repeated suggestion he himself should call in the police, using simple, if spurious, defence that process be left with the Electoral Commission.<BR/>Dave only rattled Brown when challenging his personal integrity, which was a low blow as not a single fact had been produced to justify the charge.<BR/>It was the very opposite of forensic.<BR/>He should have made more of the known facts; that Jay, Benn and at some stage Brown's camp had all had recent dealings with Abraham; that Abraham habitually used an alias and had been deselected as a candidate etc, and then left the 'jury' to construct their own scenario. <BR/>No doubt that Vince's joke will be the comment most spoken of by commentators.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-62555350760815772432007-11-28T17:30:00.000+00:002007-11-28T17:30:00.000+00:00What's happening at PMQs is bullying of Brown. I s...What's happening at PMQs is bullying of Brown. I suspect the raucous laughter that greeted Cable's Mr Bean joke hurt Brown more than Cameron's ruthless, though justified, attack on his competence. Bear-baiting used to be popular in England. We now have Brown-baiting at PMQs instead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-68739978190847797992007-11-28T17:16:00.000+00:002007-11-28T17:16:00.000+00:00When even the Pravda website (sorry, BBC News) car...When even the Pravda website (sorry, BBC News) carries a PMQs sketch that suggest Broon's game is up, you know we're living in interesting times. The only question is: will he hang on for the full term or fall apart before then?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-79135204035116308712007-11-28T16:48:00.000+00:002007-11-28T16:48:00.000+00:00Sorry to break the bad news to you, but Gordon wil...<I>Sorry to break the bad news to you, but Gordon will be back in come 2010, with a bigger majority and a strong mandate for his vision, a vision that more people are buying into and uniting behind, every day up and down the country</I><BR/><BR/><B>In Denial <BR/><BR/>When the ship that could not sink began a-sinking <BR/>Some of the Party simply started drinking <BR/>As the icy water lapped <BR/>Up their trouser legs and spats <BR/>The chance of playing bridge that night was shrinking <BR/><BR/>When Vesuvius disgorged it molten lavas<BR/>Some Pompeii-ans didn`t change from their pyjamas<BR/>They watched the others flee it <BR/>But they simply wouldn`t see it <BR/>To bad news they remained distinctly averse<BR/><BR/>To die by being eaten must be vile <BR/>So keep your distance from a crocodile <BR/>I knew a chap fell in<BR/>And while that gnawed at him <BR/>He said “ Its lovely “<BR/><BR/>He was in de `Nile<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>I`m going to cry if Boothroyd goes on(gulp) being so ( gulp sniffle ) brave ...</B>Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-28036879800817499542007-11-28T16:45:00.000+00:002007-11-28T16:45:00.000+00:00"Remember, it is a psephological impossibility for..."Remember, it is a psephological impossibility for Labour to lose the next election."<BR/><BR/>David Boothroyd I've seen you on other forums and that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard you say - it doesn't sound like you at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-14834635919284457442007-11-28T16:18:00.000+00:002007-11-28T16:18:00.000+00:00It is becoming pitiful to hear Brown return to his...It is becoming pitiful to hear Brown return to his bleat about Black Wednesday, minimum wage, low interest rates, yada, yada, yada. It is like R2D2 running into battle armed with nothing but a war cry. He later mentioned floods, foot and mouth and terrorism in his defence. How far away those days seemed now..................”( Fraser Nelson) <BR/><BR/>“Since the Majority of Me<BR/>(P Larkin)<BR/><BR/><BR/>Since the majority of me<BR/>Rejects the majority of you,<BR/>Debating ends forthwith, and we<BR/>Divide. And sure of what to do<BR/><BR/>We disinfect new blocks of days<BR/>For our majorities to rent<BR/>With unshared friends and unwalked ways.<BR/>But silence too is eloquent:<BR/><BR/>A silence of majorities<BR/>That, unopposed at last, return<BR/>Each night with cancelled promises<BR/>They want renewed. They never learn.”<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>I love the terse pathos and sad resignation of that poem and brown`s awful plea for mercy reminded me of its funereal tone .Brown is becoming a pitiable figure for a Politician that is the end whether he admits it or not .<BR/><BR/><BR/>Brave brave loyal David Boothroyd. You can`t help admiring the little Grey Friar`s Bobby still yapping by the grave. Good boy....brave loyal dog !Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-51322064038778261302007-11-28T15:29:00.000+00:002007-11-28T15:29:00.000+00:00I'd love to have seen Brown's face when he was cal...I'd love to have seen Brown's face when he was called Mr Bean. Are there any links out there?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-29558584715737797292007-11-28T15:13:00.000+00:002007-11-28T15:13:00.000+00:00Damn. David Boothroyd is loosing his cool. Some of...Damn. David Boothroyd is loosing his cool. <BR/><BR/>Some of those remarks are going to end up in a council election leaflet - I particularly like the post suggesting that democracy has been cancelled.<BR/><BR/>Mr Boothroyd - the issues are<BR/><BR/>1) Tax - if the arrangement described (giving money to others who then pass it on) is correct, then gift tax needs to be paid. It hasn't<BR/><BR/>2) If (1) isn't correct then the arrangement was a completely sham. Your PM said that electoral law had been broken.<BR/><BR/>3) The planning applications - money was given and planning application were approved. This is the kind of stuff that local councils get featured in Private Eye for.<BR/><BR/>4) Lying - claiming that no-one can remember the name of a chap who stood for parliament, crashed in flames and then appeared at Labour/ associated organisation events continuously for a decade is bollocks.<BR/><BR/>5) Money laundering - the rules about how large transfers are handled are clear. Either the story told us by the PM at his news conference is incorrect, or most of the people involved in this transaction are in breach of this law.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03059835351654875201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-43431656464043242242007-11-28T15:02:00.000+00:002007-11-28T15:02:00.000+00:00Damn. David Boothroyd is loosing his cool. Some of...Damn. David Boothroyd is loosing his cool. <BR/><BR/>Some of those remarks are going to end up in a council election leaflet - I particularly like the post suggesting that democracy has been cancelled.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03059835351654875201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-9331906974241177732007-11-28T14:46:00.000+00:002007-11-28T14:46:00.000+00:00David Boothroyd I think is what is known on the 60...David Boothroyd I think is what is known on the 606 website as a WUM (that's a 'wind-up merchant' for those who aren't so sad as me that they look on 606).<BR/><BR/>No-one who is clinically sane could hold the views David Boothroyd does, so I assume he's just saying it to provoke a reaction. Perhaps we should just all ignore him and carry on with the sensible contributions to the debate which are being made everywhere but in his comments?Me vs Maradona vs Elvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15168821199391316159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-46320016585604119812007-11-28T14:40:00.000+00:002007-11-28T14:40:00.000+00:00Cable definitely made the best comment at PMQs - a...Cable definitely made the best comment at PMQs - absolutely brilliant!<BR/><BR/>That's 5 wins out of 5 this session for Cameron at PMQs - Brown can't be getting much sleep on Tuesday nights anymore - it's starting to get painful to watch even though I'm a Tory!Me vs Maradona vs Elvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15168821199391316159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-11461521721540002432007-11-28T14:38:00.000+00:002007-11-28T14:38:00.000+00:00Brown's "defence" is to praise his own strength in...Brown's "defence" is to praise his own strength in dealing with events, e.g.:- <BR/>floods, terrorism attacks, foot and mouth, Northern Rock.<BR/><BR/>I long for a journalist to point out to him that directly or indirectly he carries some responsibility for all of these events viz.,<BR/><BR/>Cutting money for flood prevention and allowing developments on flood-plains;<BR/>Cowardly going along with TB over Iraq in order to keep alive his chance of becoming PM;<BR/>Started in a Govt. laboratory which didn't have the money to repair leaking drains;<BR/>Basing his own economic strategy on easy credit and mountains of debt, while weakening the regulatory powers of the B.of E.<BR/> and the FSA.<BR/><BR/>Finally, I could hardly believe it when he brought up "1992 and all that". He is absolutely bonkers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57385239715334935352007-11-28T14:36:00.000+00:002007-11-28T14:36:00.000+00:00Dear heavens, I just finished listening to the rec...Dear heavens, I just finished listening to the recording of PMQ's. Brown really does have a problem! I don't think his mind works very fluidly and with the stammer (which gets ever worse the longer he speaks) and a complete lack of oratory skills, he'll be in serious trouble health-wise before too long. He gets himself into such a state that he continually repeats the same phrases in every sentence. In particular, the phrase "I believe", was used so often that a psychologist friend who was passing though my office at the time made a comment that maybe he should see someone a bit quick.Vienna Woodshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11514552884944533524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63097461128737346632007-11-28T14:30:00.000+00:002007-11-28T14:30:00.000+00:00Wonderful entertainment. I particularly enjoyed An...Wonderful entertainment. I particularly enjoyed Andrew Neil's goading of Roy "tub of lard" Hattersley in the studio afterwards. If you're not sure what apoplexy is, Hatters gave us a fine demonstration.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63638253289229157472007-11-28T14:28:00.000+00:002007-11-28T14:28:00.000+00:00The childish Mr Bean smear is just the kind of pub...The childish Mr Bean smear is just the kind of public school cliquey bullying I'd expect your readers to enjoy, Iain. It will simply strengthen Gordon Brown's position by showing that he is a warm guy who can take a joke. On a day when Cameron and Cable were sounding shrill and panic stricken, the Prime Minister was relaxed, statesmanlike, and in control - a commanding presence at the national helm. <BR/><BR/>As well he can afford to be, given that he has the next election in the bag. <BR/><BR/>So, Iain Dale for Tory leader after the next election? No, give David Davis a chance to lose an election in about 2014, and then Iain can take over against Miliband in 2018. You'll lose, because of the strong legacy of stability and prosperity he will inherit from three Blair and two Brown terms. But for some people, to come second to charimatic and competent Labour (and in fact national) leaders is as good as it ever gets - as William, and IDS, and Michael all found out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com