tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post4625539289050347659..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Am I a Biased Hypocrite?Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-62138784927174417592007-04-02T21:49:00.000+01:002007-04-02T21:49:00.000+01:00So, the whole "political blogging for adults" shou...So, the whole "political blogging for adults" should, in the interest on un-biased non-hypocrisy should actually be "political blogging for... the Conservative Party and similar affiliates".<BR/><BR/>Then, perhaps, I'd be able to take you seriously. <BR/><BR/>And frankly, it's shameful you say you hail from Essex. You're giving my home county a bad name. Saying that, you do have a striking similarity to Brentwood MP Eric "Peniel Church" Pickles.<BR/>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/mpdb/html/91.stmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-60806394649108436482007-04-02T15:11:00.000+01:002007-04-02T15:11:00.000+01:00One man's 'goad' is another man's polite request.S...One man's 'goad' is another man's polite request.<BR/><BR/>Still you've finally done it, albeit grudgingly. Not sure that Old Baldy's apology really makes a difference though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-85176004729054309422007-04-02T13:30:00.000+01:002007-04-02T13:30:00.000+01:00You may claim to value debate Iain, but the hordes...You may claim to value debate Iain, but the hordes of anonymongs do little to to promote a conducive atmosphere. Whether you subscribe to Tim's views or not (and it is obvious you do not), whilst you are perfectly within your rights to run a politically biased blog - and heaven help us, the internet would be a boring place if every blog article was objective, the comments should remain a place free for unbiased discussion.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous mongrels, and a heavily weighted moderation policy (everything attacking lefty-of-the-week gets through, the rest to whim) devalue this blog. I used to enjoy the odd visit here as a source for once interesting articles/debate. Real debate has been driven out by the anonymous bullies.Jheradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11830114369327097837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-74882098679178707982007-04-02T12:16:00.000+01:002007-04-02T12:16:00.000+01:00Iain: Mark P, please point out when I have said th...Iain: <I>Mark P, please point out when I have said that if found guilty of a criminal act a party shouldn't pay the money back?</I><BR/><BR/>You're not asking Mark P to provide research facilities, are you?Ian Applebyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13955225322451386825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-10999771513765043662007-04-02T10:51:00.000+01:002007-04-02T10:51:00.000+01:00Learn some new tricks.Learn some new tricks.Guido 2.0https://www.blogger.com/profile/17983170519827077255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-9959450757053068112007-04-02T10:33:00.000+01:002007-04-02T10:33:00.000+01:00Oh FFS change the record.Oh FFS change the record.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-71158865969706918432007-04-02T10:22:00.000+01:002007-04-02T10:22:00.000+01:00Iain, you are hiding behind your sock-puppets agai...Iain, you are hiding behind your sock-puppets again.Guido 2.0https://www.blogger.com/profile/17983170519827077255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-84807368839067829722007-04-01T17:44:00.000+01:002007-04-01T17:44:00.000+01:00Mark, I am afraid that's not quite true. While the...Mark, I am afraid that's not quite true. While they did initially take that stance they have reopened the files but are waiting for the conclusion of a Police investigation before saying anything else. I know that because their press office told me when I called to ask why they hadn't issued their promise statement at the end of last year.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-48839026902362546022007-04-01T16:21:00.000+01:002007-04-01T16:21:00.000+01:00Iain: you might think the Liberal Democrats didn't...Iain: you might think the Liberal Democrats didn't carry out the necessary checks, but the Electoral Commission has already decided the party did carry out the necessary checks which is why they have said in public they will not be reopening that question:<BR/><BR/>"It remains the Commission’s view that the Liberal Democrats acted in good faith at that time, and the Commission is not re-opening the question of whether the party or its officers failed to carry out sufficient checks into the permissibility of the donations." <BR/><BR/>In other words, they investigated the checking procress and they cleared it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-34963086755493952492007-04-01T12:43:00.000+01:002007-04-01T12:43:00.000+01:00AS I understand it, DC was judged to have transgre...AS I understand it, DC was judged to have transgressed against the 'spirit' of not raising funds in the House. He made a mistake - he did not commit a criminal act - and like a gentleman, he apologised.<BR/><BR/>To try and equate this with the Cash for Honours debacle, or Brown's involvement with the Smith Institute smacks of desperation.<BR/><BR/>Iain, it's your blog, do what you like with it, and if we don't like it, we won't visit anymore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-42523932625544564512007-04-01T12:37:00.000+01:002007-04-01T12:37:00.000+01:00Mark P, please point out when I have said that if ...Mark P, please point out when I have said that if found guilty of a criminal act a party shouldn't pay the money back? <BR/><BR/>I would certainly have preferred the Polly Peck money to be paid back at the time, even though no rules had actually been broken.<BR/><BR/>On the Michael Brown issue we'll see what the verdict is, but I do think there is a real danger for the LibDems that they will be forced to pay it back. I don't think anyone accepted it actually knowing it was dodgy money, but I do believe that the requisite checks were not carried out properly, but let's wait to see what the Electoral Commission says.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-38604661069525270542007-04-01T12:20:00.000+01:002007-04-01T12:20:00.000+01:00Iain - I think you've missed the thrust of the hyp...Iain - I think you've missed the thrust of the hypocrisy question - at least to my mind - which is that in some cases you are very keen for parties to pay back money and in other cases you are, err..., not.<BR/><BR/>You present the "pay back the money" argument as being a principled one, so it should then be applied across the board shouldn't it?<BR/><BR/>And that means if a party leader, even your own, has had their fundraising operation ruled out of order, then you should be saying "pay it back" or (agreeing that we're all political bloggers) saying nothing, rather than saying an apology is enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-64831523861336165102007-04-01T11:12:00.000+01:002007-04-01T11:12:00.000+01:00what are permalinks ? why are they important ? am ...what are permalinks ? why are they important ? am i alone in thinking that if something isn't broke, why fix it ? do some people have too much time on their hands ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-82315030288941464572007-04-01T09:24:00.000+01:002007-04-01T09:24:00.000+01:00Iain, good post. Your are certainly not a biased h...Iain, good post. Your are certainly not a biased hypocrite, and of course you should write what you want on your own blog. Be party political, but remember the difference between party political and party propaganda...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-62972186958338290042007-04-01T09:18:00.000+01:002007-04-01T09:18:00.000+01:00Tim - you are such a bore. Can you post your geek...Tim - you are such a bore. Can you post your geeky rants elsewhere (perhaps up your ar*seAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-84295506724304505012007-04-01T08:50:00.000+01:002007-04-01T08:50:00.000+01:00YesYestory boys never grow uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11172736984147732661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-52536707009963605132007-04-01T03:02:00.000+01:002007-04-01T03:02:00.000+01:00Oh FFS.This is Iain's blog and we all attend and p...Oh FFS.<BR/><BR/>This is Iain's blog and we all attend and post at the mere whim of its owner.<BR/><BR/>If you don't like it please stay away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-83340544795972135532007-04-01T02:21:00.000+01:002007-04-01T02:21:00.000+01:00Tim , seek help. Seriously.Tim , seek help. Seriously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-39755866280328621492007-04-01T01:29:00.000+01:002007-04-01T01:29:00.000+01:00I shall now reply to points made by Tim Ireland (s...<I>I shall now reply to points made by Tim Ireland (sigh). It may or may not be the last time I do so. Ever.</I><BR/><BR/>What... forever and ever?<BR/><BR/>1. From now on, when you are introduced in the MSM as a blogging expert, Manic expects you to correct your host(s). Manic would also like to note that - as illuminating as this response is, your #1 answer does not correspond to his #1 question. You are at risk of going off-topic.<BR/><BR/>2. Manic already told you how to do this via email, over a month ago. Manic would repeat it here, but it is not his job to act as your research assistant.<BR/><BR/>3. Manic will ignore the insult that your clearly stated moderation policy says requires deletion. You bring us all sorts of updates about changes such as moderation (*cough*) policy, so - by your own standards - you think that your readers deserve an announcement. This vital change places well-overdue (yet still evasive) responses such as <A HREF="http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2007/03/is-labour-blogosphere-about-to-take-off.html#2995723067173157109" REL="nofollow">this</A> in their true context.<BR/><BR/>[Note - The individual comment permalink above will work at some stage in the future... one hopes.]<BR/><BR/>4. Something you repeatedly fail to understand, Iain; it is not necessarily what you do, but the way that you do it that is a major cause for concern. Again, Manic will ignore the insult that your clearly stated moderation policy says requires deletion... it is enough that your response was sufficiently illuminating (but he reserves the right to make a point of the timing of this well-overdue measure).<BR/><BR/>As for your response to Manic's PS, you have again confirmed that your moderation 'policy' is subject to your whim(s) at the time. Well done.Guido 2.0https://www.blogger.com/profile/17983170519827077255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-605354735085873242007-04-01T00:38:00.000+01:002007-04-01T00:38:00.000+01:00I shall now reply to points made by Tim Ireland (s...I shall now reply to points made by Tim Ireland (sigh). It may or may not be the last time I do so. Ever.<BR/><BR/>1. I introduced full timestamps when I worked out how to do it in Blogger Settings. <BR/><BR/>2. I will happily introduce permalinks in comments if someone tells me how to do it. I have looked in Blogger Settings and it is not obvious to me how to do it.<BR/><BR/>3. I refer the dishonourable gentleman to the answer I gave above. And an announcement? Oh be serious. Do you really think my blog readers need an announcement about fucking timestamps? Get real.<BR/><BR/>4. You suggest I do something. I then do it. And still you are not satisfied. And you wonder why most of the blogosphere thinks you're nuts.<BR/><BR/>As for your PS, just be thankful that due to a West Ham win I am feeling in a benevolent mood. Mind you tomorrow that might change, so it might be deleted then.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-42121744921236199372007-03-31T23:13:00.000+01:002007-03-31T23:13:00.000+01:00Verity 9.57 pm (our time)In the past few days, I'v...Verity 9.57 pm (our time)<BR/><BR/>In the past few days, I've seen a few postings under your semi-anonymous name that may or may not be the real you.<BR/><BR/>Even if you chose not to share your profile, wouldn't it be a good idea to create a profile that would show your name in underlined blue?<BR/><BR/>Just a thought...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-49377621023566834222007-03-31T22:36:00.000+01:002007-03-31T22:36:00.000+01:00I’ve only just noticed the full timestamps – long ...I’ve only just noticed the full timestamps – long overdue. Don’t you think the gap between paragraphs is also too big? I would do “br {line-height:0.8em}” or something. (Doctype has to be “transitional” or this won’t work in Firefox for some reason.)Laurence Boycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17838530535994771528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-71628170668780973662007-03-31T22:23:00.000+01:002007-03-31T22:23:00.000+01:00"Am I a Biased Hypocrite?"Manic would love to answ...<I> "Am I a Biased Hypocrite?"</I><BR/><BR/>Manic would love to answer this question for you, but he feels that he must refrain until you deliver on some the many questions that you have left unanswered.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2007/03/is-labour-blogosphere-about-to-take-off.html#comments" REL="nofollow">Some of those unanswered questions lurk in this thread.</A> Some lurk elsewhere.<BR/><BR/>At the risk of going 'off-topic' (i.e. mentioning anything you would prefer to keep from your readers):<BR/><BR/>1. Is linking to your website link spamming?<BR/><BR/>2. Manic thanks you for comment timestamps that (finally) include time and date, but he feels he must remind you of the need for permalinks in threads that are often as long as your impossibly-long blogroll.<BR/><BR/>3. For months Manic has been asking for improved timestamps. Why introduce them now... and without any announcement?<BR/><BR/>4. Why introduce them at all? Only Manic has been asking for them. And you don't respect Manic as a blogger. You said so.<BR/><BR/>[PS - Newcomers should be aware that it would be a mistake to look purely for party-political bias; to do so would be to rule out Iain's own personal ambition and prejudice.]Guido 2.0https://www.blogger.com/profile/17983170519827077255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76994107353550577752007-03-31T22:11:00.000+01:002007-03-31T22:11:00.000+01:00What next - is someone going to start a campaign a...What next - is someone going to start a campaign against the Guardian for not splashing anti-Labour news all over their front pages?<BR/><BR/>Anyone who reads a daily newspaper or watches BBC News is being misled or misinformed to some extent about particular issues, so why criticise blogging for precisely the same behaviour?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-77425330041978337582007-03-31T22:10:00.000+01:002007-03-31T22:10:00.000+01:00Ted, I have to say I do hope no one accuses my blo...Ted, I have to say I do hope no one accuses my blog, ( A Conservative's blog) of being biased!<BR/><BR/>I just would not know what to say!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com