tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post4374088193406414847..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: The Casualties of CoalitionIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-25388148297100370942010-05-15T11:21:40.746+01:002010-05-15T11:21:40.746+01:00They should perhaps remember that the first wave o...They should perhaps remember that the first wave of appointees in a new Government rarely rein long, and as long as they remember which side their bread is buttered on, their turn will come..Mirtha Tidvillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07940977481295375071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-90596825479481236092010-05-15T08:10:18.737+01:002010-05-15T08:10:18.737+01:00Jabba the Cat and others - are you willfully missi...Jabba the Cat and others - are you willfully missing the point? Some of the people who missed out on jobs were particularly talented people who slogged their guts out in the long, dark years of Opposition. It is not a matter of entitlemt - it is natural to want to be rewarded for a job well done and to be able to contribute their considerable talents to Government. <br /><br />Then to add inuslt to injury you have the poison dwarf, Sarah Teather, a scheming little no-talent as a minister. Why? Because they needed an extra pair of t.ts to make up the numbers and appease the Lib Dems and Guardinistas?Lady Finchleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03695379463537122656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44669841997834002832010-05-14T23:14:20.389+01:002010-05-14T23:14:20.389+01:00They seem to be overwhelmingly the white male Oxbr...They seem to be overwhelmingly the white male Oxbridge elitists who have been appointed to government. So what did anyone expect with Cameron & Clegg's backgrounds? They will be happiest with what and whom they are most familiar. Dave likes to be surrounded by women but not on an equal basis, and Cleggie also appears to like being adored by rather than working in partnership with women and ethnic minorities.happinesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374148305020402076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40755567433979179002010-05-14T22:53:01.983+01:002010-05-14T22:53:01.983+01:00The promise of some stability in cabinet (with a q...The promise of some stability in cabinet (with a quota allocated to Lib-Dems) may be a problem as the parliament moves on. Whilst constant re-shuffles will be unwelcome, by mid-parliament there will need to be room made at junior levels for the new intake.<br />One in particular whom I would like to see in government is Rory Stewart. See http://www.rorystewart.co.uk/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-75379211638944283362010-05-14T21:10:52.465+01:002010-05-14T21:10:52.465+01:00GrimUpNorth, My previous comment was directed at S...GrimUpNorth, My previous comment was directed at Scotch, not you! Apologies.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72185945181301581002010-05-14T21:00:52.286+01:002010-05-14T21:00:52.286+01:00"Oh dear. You clearly can't read. Go back..."Oh dear. You clearly can't read. Go back and read my previous comment. Then all should become miraculously clear."<br /><br />Dear Iain, I have always been a big fan of your blog. But the above response indicates that you must be a lot cleverer than me. Don't forget that some of your readers are ordinary punters hundreds of miles away from the Westminster village where you obviously feel most at ease. You need to get out and about a bit more than just East Anglia.<br /><br /> <br /><br />May 14, 2010 4:45 PMGrimUpNorthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14964980342741125101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-82050775336335239632010-05-14T18:40:06.975+01:002010-05-14T18:40:06.975+01:00Stewart Jackson will not be missed, he is a joke a...Stewart Jackson will not be missed, he is a joke as a constituency MP not even supporting the excellent Tory council leader, just imagine what mess he would make on a national stage, he would be better off given a job cleaning the Westminster toilets.5jackoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10891100997805212367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-10668982986349837172010-05-14T17:16:46.894+01:002010-05-14T17:16:46.894+01:00Nadine Dorries, 2007:"If we were in governmen...Nadine Dorries, 2007:"If we were in government and David didn't give me a front bench position, I would barricade myself inside his office until he did."<br />(full article http://bit.ly/99bADB)<br /><br />You disagree with your friend, I take it it?scotchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18103340885509850627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-38473887407174286802010-05-14T17:14:14.067+01:002010-05-14T17:14:14.067+01:00"There are some very unhappy people among the..."There are some very unhappy people among the ranks of Tory MPs this morning."<br /><br />Tough shit.<br /><br />They should be grateful they are in Parliament, we have a Tory PM and Labour should be dead meat for the foreseeable future.<br /><br />They should also be grateful for the extra time that they can dedicate to serving their constituents.Jabba the Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08378736389976858775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-55178012624713858202010-05-14T16:45:59.647+01:002010-05-14T16:45:59.647+01:00Oh dear. You clearly can't read. Go back and r...Oh dear. You clearly can't read. Go back and read my previous comment. Then all should become miraculously clear.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-24675238051753403402010-05-14T16:35:08.733+01:002010-05-14T16:35:08.733+01:00No sign of Malcolm Rifkind's name on the notic...No sign of Malcolm Rifkind's name on the noticeboard. What has he done wrong?GrimUpNorthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14964980342741125101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-50849158669517236942010-05-14T16:25:06.562+01:002010-05-14T16:25:06.562+01:00Shitstirring, huh? Isn't that a bad word on th...Shitstirring, huh? Isn't that a bad word on these pages?<br /><br />You're a friend of Nadine, you've praised her on many occasions, including very recently, 9 May 2010:<br />"Well done her. After the abuse she has suffered from people not fit to lick her books, I was delighted at her result."<br /><br />You even use a bit of her words on your blog front page, when the server decides to roll it in.<br />But she doesn't appear in your "astonished" list. I find that...interesting.scotchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18103340885509850627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-12886113062341386712010-05-14T15:51:56.131+01:002010-05-14T15:51:56.131+01:00Who? Never heard of any of themWho? Never heard of any of thembewickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02808667730361613052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-16451999796243543572010-05-14T15:51:56.132+01:002010-05-14T15:51:56.132+01:00If you're correct about those who werent appoi...If you're correct about those who werent appointed it means you must regard some of the new office holders as in some way unworthy.<br /><br />Could we have a list of those as well (and why you feel this wya bout them)?JohnRShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07021101596935644363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54795122553504545522010-05-14T15:42:37.835+01:002010-05-14T15:42:37.835+01:00Why would I even be surprised, let alone astonishe...Why would I even be surprised, let alone astonished. She wasn't even frontbencher before the election so could hardly expect to be a minister.<br /><br />Up to your usual shitstirring tricks again? :)Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-65522557048480606422010-05-14T15:20:31.436+01:002010-05-14T15:20:31.436+01:00Not astonished at Nadine Dorries not getting a pos...Not astonished at Nadine Dorries not getting a post then Iain?scotchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18103340885509850627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63386836706971628732010-05-14T14:36:00.783+01:002010-05-14T14:36:00.783+01:00From the reported comments/attitudes of the disapp...From the reported comments/attitudes of the disappointed rising Tory stars I'm getting a very strong whiff of a sense of entitlement. It sounds remarkably similar to some of the bile emanating from the Labour camp in response to the way they didn't get what they thought should be their due from the LibDems in the coalition they tried to set up.<br /><br />If this is indeed the way these folk think, they're due for the same sort of disrepute as their now disgraced colleagues in the previous Parliament. And if they turn into a faction in the Tory Party it will rub off on the reputation of the Party too.<br /><br />Where's all their brave words about needing to remember they're supposed to work for us, not for themselves?<br /><br />Cameron rises in my estimation with everything he does in this situation. Of course he doesn't rate Sarah Teather higher than his own party's equivalent. But he recognises that the Big Picture means he has to prioritize ensuring that his government can stay in power for five years at least and do what has to be done, without pandering to egos on either side--but especially his own side.<br /><br />That's the deal. The whingeing you're reporting and sympathizing with does them and you no favours.JudyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13761251948249988945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-62247891651586444252010-05-14T14:34:26.056+01:002010-05-14T14:34:26.056+01:00From the reported comments/attitudes of the disapp...From the reported comments/attitudes of the disappointed rising Tory stars I'm getting a very strong whiff of a sense of entitlement. It sounds remarkably similar to some of the bile emanating from the Labour camp in response to the way they didn't get what they thought should be their due from the LibDems in the coalition they tried to set up.<br /><br />If this is indeed the way these folk think, they're due for the same sort of disrepute as their now disgraced colleagues in the previous Parliament. And if they turn into a faction in the Tory Party it will rub off on the reputation of the Party too.<br /><br />Where's all their brave words about needing to remember they're supposed to work for us, not for themselves?<br /><br />Cameron rises in my estimation with everything he does in this situation. Of course he doesn't rate Sarah Teather higher than his own party's equivalent. But he recognises that the Big Picture means he has to prioritize ensuring that his government can stay in power for five years at least and do what has to be done, without pandering to egos on either side--but especially his own side.<br /><br />That's the deal. The whingeing you're reporting and sympathizing with does them and you no favours.JudyKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13761251948249988945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57454992054811018002010-05-14T14:34:26.057+01:002010-05-14T14:34:26.057+01:00All these guys are young enough to be around when ...All these guys are young enough to be around when it really is their turn, but John Redwood may not be, and I don't mean that in bad way, the fact that he is not in government is a dreadful waste. Maybe there is a special committee lined up for him ? He deserves some reward.Rayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07132057803097163797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-85730906389094305042010-05-14T14:20:06.408+01:002010-05-14T14:20:06.408+01:00You are astonished! It looks as though the agenda ...You are astonished! It looks as though the agenda has moved on and you are not on it. It happens to the best of us. <br /><br />Have you noticed how young police officers are these days?Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-56647112812373291862010-05-14T14:09:38.263+01:002010-05-14T14:09:38.263+01:00Iain, you posted several months ago that any new C...Iain, you posted several months ago that any new Conservative Government would have so many new MPs that many junior posts, etc. would have to be filled by newbies. Be grateful that the Liberal Plutocrats have eased the burden!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-74273283686219887452010-05-14T14:00:35.491+01:002010-05-14T14:00:35.491+01:00I agree with Wild - of course John Redwood should ...I agree with Wild - of course John Redwood should be in the cabinet. Preferably Welsh Secretary again - he's had 15 years to learn the national anthem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-71893944010205566952010-05-14T13:59:25.626+01:002010-05-14T13:59:25.626+01:00"Many of them have slogged their guts out for..."Many of them have slogged their guts out for up to 13 years in opposition. They've done the heavy lifting with scant little reward for their endeavours"<br /><br />Then they should remind themselves of their loyal activists, that have been knocking on doors for the last 13 years, who had no chance of an MP's salary at the end of it, but did it simply in the hope of a Conservative Government.<br />Everyone makes sacrafices. I hope they are not too bitter.Eddie 180https://www.blogger.com/profile/13431191567949672191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-82463237355662974542010-05-14T13:36:12.048+01:002010-05-14T13:36:12.048+01:00None of them would be in Government if they hadn&#...None of them would be in Government if they hadn't done a deal with the Limp Dems. They should remember that.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10574081059364644191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-49161147571152662832010-05-14T13:32:36.705+01:002010-05-14T13:32:36.705+01:00If this government is to work, its members will ha...If this government is to work, its members will have to show emotional maturity. Managing disappointment and dealing with not getting what you want will be part of it.<br /><br />We are *all* going to have to learn about focussing on what we need, rather than what we want.Ritahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11677675701600452304noreply@blogger.com