tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post4340527021396898813..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: X Factor Goes Political!Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-83939560037739562382010-05-03T21:13:48.848+01:002010-05-03T21:13:48.848+01:00I agree with referendums on national and local iss...I agree with referendums on national and local issues, as I have made clear on this blog several times.<br /><br />---------------------<br /><br />On all issues? Every single act of parliament?<br /><br />Every tax rise?<br /><br />Every bit of borrowing?<br /><br />Unless we have control over politicians, they will carry on enriching themselves at the taxpayer's expense and following Greeces example.<br /><br />If we take the Great Repeal Bill as an example. <br /><br />Where does the electorate get to vote on which bills get repealed?<br /><br />It's not in the Tory manifesto after all.<br /><br />NickLord Blaggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06783119146180259097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-3290224187726115382009-12-15T21:50:07.608+00:002009-12-15T21:50:07.608+00:00Oh no, a Cameron PR stunt for a share of a billio...Oh no, a Cameron PR stunt for a share of a billionare wadge of dosh.<br /><br />This Simon Cowell, leader of the brain dead, might be persuaded to model a series of Tory tee - shirts with suitable political logos , y/n?True Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16296161522047947133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-80606561683717108442009-12-15T18:06:56.397+00:002009-12-15T18:06:56.397+00:00Pathetic
I'd rather watch the x-factor than r...Pathetic<br /><br />I'd rather watch the x-factor than read drivel like this.<br /><br />And you want to be an MP?<br /><br />The modern age truly is the triumph of style over substance.thehoatzinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13080787665247014405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-41632730019214266622009-12-15T17:13:27.764+00:002009-12-15T17:13:27.764+00:00Nick, you prove yourself to be incapable of readin...Nick, you prove yourself to be incapable of reading. See above.<br /><br />I agree with referendums on national and local issues, as I have made clear on this blog several times.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-67341593452857807942009-12-15T16:52:16.348+00:002009-12-15T16:52:16.348+00:00Well the politicians started itWell the politicians started itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-31279979366928868122009-12-15T16:32:12.218+00:002009-12-15T16:32:12.218+00:00Why does politics have to be brought down to the l...Why does politics have to be brought down to the level of using a money grubbing music svengali?<br /><br />================<br /><br />In my opinion that is a higher level than the current money grabbing MPs and Lords. <br /><br />Top that with Lords selling legistlation for cash, and Parliament is a real cesspool.<br /><br />What you can say for Cowell, is that he does provide a lot that the audience wants, without leaving them in trillions of debt.<br /><br />So on balance, Cowell wins.Lord Blaggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06783119146180259097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4798812658683928962009-12-15T16:03:16.138+00:002009-12-15T16:03:16.138+00:00Jonathan Maitland, the show’s presenter, said: “Th...Jonathan Maitland, the show’s presenter, said: “The winner is a comedy fascist nutter and a cross between Lord Brocket and Mussolini.<br /><br /><b>“It’s not embarrassing that he won because we’ll now respect our real politicians more.”</b><br /><br />http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/elections/article413020.ece<br /><br />You cannot make this stuff upOld Holbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10164491045068093627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-38083415187917141132009-12-15T15:25:00.821+00:002009-12-15T15:25:00.821+00:00Iain. There is a real issue with political fascism...Iain. There is a real issue with political fascism and dictatorship in the country.<br /><br />Cowell's points are perfectly valid. <br /><br />That so many politicians are trying to make fun of it and completely avoiding any discussion about the content of his ideas says a lot. <br /><br />Even people Carswell in their "The Plan" have the idea of referenda. However, when it comes to their Great Repeal Bill, it disappears. No referenda on the matter. <br /><br />One reason is that they want to repeal the smoking ban. Now here I suspect they would lose a referenda. On fox hunting, it might also be a bit marginal. They don't want to trust the electorate. They don't want to be told what to do, they want to dictate.<br /><br />The conculsion one has to come to is that its lip service because they think its going to be buggins turn to dictate. <br /><br />So you've repeated it Iain. You've failed to discuss the idea at the heart of what Cowell had to say.<br /><br />Namely that the electorate should have the final say.<br /><br />My conclusion, you do want to become the MP so you can dictate to others, rather than to serve.<br /><br />You can of course present any arguments to the contraryLord Blaggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06783119146180259097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-56717639841616598252009-12-15T13:55:58.605+00:002009-12-15T13:55:58.605+00:00Whilst funny
Why does politics have to be brought...Whilst funny<br /><br />Why does politics have to be brought down to the level of using a money grubbing music svengali?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-6797593645285972122009-12-15T13:52:56.142+00:002009-12-15T13:52:56.142+00:00Don't laugh. Cowell is planning to run a polit...Don't laugh. Cowell is planning to run a political X-Factor type show in the near future. <br /><br />As Private Eye pointed out, the last time this happened the British public voted overwhelmingly for a "swivel-eyed fascist" and ITV very quietly withdraw all the promotion for the show. That was back in 2005 I believe.Hammerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06035431208614358992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72937128774053216622009-12-15T13:45:11.117+00:002009-12-15T13:45:11.117+00:00I liked the post Iain, so you've one fan.
Old...I liked the post Iain, so you've one fan.<br /><br />Old Holborn, great video. Impossible to translate though really and keep the satire.subrosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151702590329788260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72587109016128614062009-12-15T13:43:58.754+00:002009-12-15T13:43:58.754+00:00Sehr witzig, oller H!Sehr witzig, oller H!Mick Turatianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12533201193634948442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-13219333642905632272009-12-15T13:43:27.285+00:002009-12-15T13:43:27.285+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mick Turatianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12533201193634948442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-90415794739244645142009-12-15T13:31:57.227+00:002009-12-15T13:31:57.227+00:00I would suggest that X Factor style voting on ever...I would suggest that X Factor style voting on every motion before the House of Commons is EXACTLY what is needed.<br /><br />646 P45's to be issued immediately. No longer needed.Old Holbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10164491045068093627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-19507424525165060812009-12-15T13:14:35.677+00:002009-12-15T13:14:35.677+00:00Speaking of humour Iain, I believe you speak Germa...Speaking of humour Iain, I believe you speak German<br /><br />Swiss Direct Democracy in action<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmIEEFwileY&feature=relatedOld Holbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10164491045068093627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72222796976498560882009-12-15T12:46:50.535+00:002009-12-15T12:46:50.535+00:00Politics as entertainment?
It would work better...Politics as entertainment? <br /><br />It would work better as tragedy.<br /><br />As for politics being show business for ugly people, is that still as true today as it used to be?<br /><br />The merging of politics with media is improving the standard a bit. What we want is a trustworthy, dedicated, morally good politics, not good looking smarmers, who sell us out.<br /><br />Simon Cowell wouldn't know the difference.Tapestryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267094484651413428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-13229704457578870172009-12-15T12:32:12.711+00:002009-12-15T12:32:12.711+00:00Nick, I normally don't allow comments which ca...Nick, I normally don't allow comments which call me a tosser, but seeing as you have made a complete tosser out of yourself I will make an exception.<br /><br />Where in this post did I say I was against a political version of X Factor? Nowhere.<br /><br />What a pity it is that you can't take this post for what it is - an attempt to provide a little bit of humour. Lame maybe, but it's the best I can do.<br /><br />I agree with some of your later points. Why is it that you and others constantly try to attribute motives to me which I just do not have.<br /><br />It was a joke for God's sake.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-46414201209776531362009-12-15T12:21:25.210+00:002009-12-15T12:21:25.210+00:00Iain, you're being a childish tosser on this. ...Iain, you're being a childish tosser on this. <br /><br />Cowell has a very valid point.<br /><br />People want a direct say on issues. Programs like the X Factor shows that people are interested when they have a direct say in things. Look at how many vote. They will even pay to have that say.<br /><br />You're against because you want to be an MP and have power, so you can tell others what to do. <br /><br />We need one man(or woman) one vote in the UK. And I don't mean Brown as that one vote. <br /><br />We all should have the final say on every act. <br /><br />X Factor shows people want it, and it shows that in a modern day, that its technically possible. If they can mobilise so many people to vote in a short space of time, with the web there are ways of getting a higher turn out.<br /><br />You should start a serious discussion about why the electorate should control parliament and not the other way round.Lord Blaggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06783119146180259097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-45916294566738270652009-12-15T12:20:26.764+00:002009-12-15T12:20:26.764+00:00You forgot to mention Gordo saying 'it all sta...You forgot to mention Gordo saying 'it all started in America...'Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09272883912070296651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-17054191177854463302009-12-15T11:52:54.121+00:002009-12-15T11:52:54.121+00:00I don't see any reason why Cowell shouldn'...I don't see any reason why Cowell shouldn't make lots of money for nothing by exploiting the political system.<br /><br />MPs have been doing it for years, and he's far more entertaining.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87893801177235814282009-12-15T11:43:48.852+00:002009-12-15T11:43:48.852+00:00Two comments:
1. Cowell is simply after making mo...Two comments:<br /><br />1. Cowell is simply after making more money. He has no interest in political debate.<br /><br />2. Bearing in mind broadcasting rules, my guess is this will not fly.<br /><br />Melvin<br />howdidwecometothis.blogspot.comMelvin Cragsbury (a pseudonym)https://www.blogger.com/profile/18166867892238232119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54906097434520442862009-12-15T11:41:17.519+00:002009-12-15T11:41:17.519+00:00LOL this is good,
as this is in April it would b...LOL this is good, <br /><br />as this is in April it would be a great program if there a hung parliment in a March election. Could go to an april Xfactor, saves a re run?dazmandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14859994295771083457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54117749945402037412009-12-15T10:55:40.161+00:002009-12-15T10:55:40.161+00:00Cowell is a fan of Brown, and probably votes Labou...Cowell is a fan of Brown, and probably votes Labour. He just HAS to be a Lefty. I know he loathes fox hunting. <br /><br />Saying that, he's savvy enough to keep his politics out of the public eye. <br /><br />Who on earth would want to be associated with Brown?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03145511491998925108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-47369530182475165032009-12-15T10:38:47.073+00:002009-12-15T10:38:47.073+00:00No one called in?
Date: April 23 2010
Theres sti...No one called in?<br /><br /><b>Date: April 23 2010</b><br /><br />Theres still time, give us the number quick!Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03408574437205184474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-227864177803908112009-12-15T10:35:28.706+00:002009-12-15T10:35:28.706+00:00I didn't watch the X Factor but I may have don...I didn't watch the X Factor but I may have done if it was like this.<br />Bring on the ElectionUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14286490812123952997noreply@blogger.com