tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post3775761154344704981..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Don't Throw All the Blame at Ross & BrandIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger93125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-82838758929861994762008-10-31T21:09:00.000+00:002008-10-31T21:09:00.000+00:00i think jonathan ross's big problem now has nothin...i think jonathan ross's big problem now has nothing to do with the phone-call.<BR/>it's more to do with the fact that he got lesley douglas sacked. (and yeah, i know that she resigned -- but she didn't want to). everyone loved her and now they're blaming him for it. he's public enemy number one at radio 2. he's the only one who can waltz back into work after christmas.Gadgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03526065424094865012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-64428575070801669282008-10-31T11:40:00.000+00:002008-10-31T11:40:00.000+00:00There are some comedians who hit the nail on the h...There are some comedians who hit the nail on the head though, such as this video about <A HREF="http://sourcemc.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/the-power-of-the-internet/" REL="nofollow">the power of the internet</A>, which can be seen as a very funny take on why so many people have complainedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-85677607634622187872008-10-30T16:15:00.000+00:002008-10-30T16:15:00.000+00:00These bounders should be given a sound thrashing, ...These bounders should be given a sound thrashing, and the Commie Al-beeb should be closed and all its buildings razed to the ground.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-15427712968923589332008-10-29T20:30:00.000+00:002008-10-29T20:30:00.000+00:00Many of us find Ross completely unfunny or even am...Many of us find Ross completely unfunny or even amusing. He seems to have got stuck in his teens.<BR/> <BR/>Kenneth Horne could be quite outrageous but it was always in a witty sophisticated way -Ross is just playground shock tactics.<BR/><BR/>Many, many of us have switched off every time he comes on and object strongly to our licence money beening used for obscene payments to this arragant man with arrested development.<BR/><BR/>The BBC treat licence payers with contempt -the time has come to re arrange funding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-3402822939258325632008-10-29T20:07:00.000+00:002008-10-29T20:07:00.000+00:00These things happen because of the culture at the ...These things happen because of the culture at the BBC,i.e.crude ,vulgar ignorant,subversive,bullying,dumbed down etc. etc.The culture comes from the top of the organisation and results from the policies they adopt.Eg all recruits from the liberal left only.As a result the BBC is run by a bunch of drug taking perverts -thats the problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2259663757397099402008-10-29T19:54:00.000+00:002008-10-29T19:54:00.000+00:00Iain, I think you miss one big point. Whether or ...Iain, I think you miss one big point. Whether or not the programme or that portion of the programme was broadcast, Ross and Brand left the message on Andrew Sachs' recording machine during the recording of the programme.<BR/><BR/>Whatever may have been broadcast, the offence was already made and however powerful editors and producers may be, they can't change what is on the Mr Sachs' tape.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13775753218753337766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-46246140828580248712008-10-29T18:22:00.000+00:002008-10-29T18:22:00.000+00:00Hmm, thanks for that Dizzy. Not really sure what t...Hmm, thanks for that Dizzy. <BR/><BR/>Not really sure what that confirms. Wossy and Brand's innocence, Tim's lack of a shaggable grand-daughter or your ability to faux-jump on a bandwagon for personal gain?<BR/><BR/>Don't answer, I'd had to interrupt your busy schedule of baiting left-wingers...<BR/><BR/>Carl EveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-3195570514371211872008-10-29T17:57:00.000+00:002008-10-29T17:57:00.000+00:00Sorry to say I'm a regular listener,but hearing th...Sorry to say I'm a regular listener,but hearing this made me squirm, I can't for the life of Me think what They found funny. But this it turns out, after a week, was recorded and furthermore Mr Sachs had already objected to this being broadcast. That is the problem. My big beef now is that Mr Clunking Mouth Has had His say in the matter. Whatever takes the attention away from the country He destroyed I suppose. You see whenever Jocky opens His great pie-hole I suddenly need to defend whatever He attacks, I just can't put up with His grotesque, festering, pious, pontificating, pompous blether. He should be explaining how his education system has turned out so many cretins who not only don't have a clue what the fuss was about but actually thought it was funny. Perhaps like Wossy they would be dense enough to vote for the English~baiting baboon.King Athelstanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08796189127188811779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-45949962556584639342008-10-29T17:45:00.000+00:002008-10-29T17:45:00.000+00:00The whole incident shows the inadequacy of managem...The whole incident shows the inadequacy of management at the BBC. To let a couple of arrested adolescents like Wossy and Brand pull a stunt like this at a time when the Corporation's future is uncertain shows a complete lack of judgement.<BR/><BR/>I must declare an interest here: I've never forgiven Wossy since he nicked all my jokes after I had done a local radio show promoting a book a few years ago. Never even gave me a mention.<BR/><BR/>So my message to the babbling fool is: C.U. Next Tuesday, Ross.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-33032534814055263362008-10-29T16:49:00.000+00:002008-10-29T16:49:00.000+00:00It suddenly occurred to me that I havn't witnessed...It suddenly occurred to me that I havn't witnessed such an outpouring of specious collective emotion since the death of Princess Di and, oh poo, I have run out of sick bags.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-43498350405152466392008-10-29T16:28:00.000+00:002008-10-29T16:28:00.000+00:00Brand is obnoxious, Ross can be mildly amusing. Bo...Brand is obnoxious, Ross can be mildly amusing. Both performed despicable acts of bullying but you are quite correct to point the finger at other people as well. In fact the chances are that the "producer" was some spotty 24 year old and the real culprit, whom the beeb are trying to protect, was the next person up in their pecking order. S/he would have listened to the program before giving it the thumbs up for broadcast. Either way the blame should be shared.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-26195467965922628782008-10-29T16:02:00.000+00:002008-10-29T16:02:00.000+00:00Jake - is that the best you can do?I'll leave you ...Jake - is that the best you can do?<BR/><BR/>I'll leave you my telephone number and you can leave me insulting messages. Then I can just hit delete on them like Andrew Sachs should have done.<BR/><BR/>I'm going back to the US Election...<BR/><BR/>Iain, shame on you for even pandering to this cr*p at such an important time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-38884955405126281062008-10-29T15:55:00.000+00:002008-10-29T15:55:00.000+00:00I just thought I'd post this comment because a cer...I just thought I'd post this comment because a certain someone of Australian insanity persuasion thinks that because he keeps repeating I am a nuisance caller I wouldn't dare post anything under this thread for fear of opening a "can of worms". Sorry to upset you Tim, but you know very well that I have never denied calling you at home. I would like to clarify that I have not had sex with your granddaughter (not that I imagine you have one of course, too young you see, unless you came from Chatham of course).<BR/><BR/>On the issue of Brand and Ross, I would just like to say that I don't care :-) Now please excuse me, I lead a busy life, as Tim will tell you, I spend all day posting anonymous comments on the Internetdizzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250325010662356883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-30277521645014520852008-10-29T15:26:00.000+00:002008-10-29T15:26:00.000+00:00So a father of 48 with two daughters and a, errr, ...So a father of 48 with two daughters and a, errr, well, another geezer who should have grown up but hasn't, need the oversight of a 25 year old, pimply, spotty yoof to ensure they don't step out of line.<BR/><BR/>Iain, you couldn't make it up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2774786621322572032008-10-29T15:07:00.000+00:002008-10-29T15:07:00.000+00:00Fair enough Anonymous-"If you don't like this sort...Fair enough Anonymous-<BR/><BR/>"If you don't like this sort of radio - don't listen in."<BR/><BR/>Pity Mr Sachs wasn't given a similar option when he picked up his telephone. <BR/><BR/>By the way Mr Anonymous, assuming you have a family would you care to provide us all with your name and telephone number - just for comedic purposes you understand? <BR/><BR/>NeedhatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-8567458512645003092008-10-29T14:17:00.000+00:002008-10-29T14:17:00.000+00:00Anon 9:54May I suggest that you learn to spell bef...Anon 9:54<BR/><BR/>May I suggest that you learn to spell before you utter bullcrap?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-18356050830653964462008-10-29T14:15:00.000+00:002008-10-29T14:15:00.000+00:00No. No. No. You just don't understand the balance ...No. No. No. You just don't understand the balance of power between celeb presenters on megabux, and the anonymous functionaries who are the editors and producers. If they don't get their way, the big boys can damage, even crush the careers of the producers who stand in their way. It is very hard for some guy on 30 grand to say No to Wossy. <BR/><BR/>And it would be a travesty if the producer took the blame, while the big names swanned away unscathed from this nasty cruel stunt. <BR/><BR/>You're just wrong on this Iain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63401692531632281032008-10-29T13:22:00.000+00:002008-10-29T13:22:00.000+00:00andy cWe all know what the c stands for.andy c<BR/><BR/>We all know what the c stands for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-37759327411499344972008-10-29T13:12:00.001+00:002008-10-29T13:12:00.001+00:00Who cares?!?!!!!?!?!?!Life must be good in Britain...Who cares?!?!!!!?!?!?!<BR/><BR/>Life must be good in Britain if this is all you've got to worry about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-68053271357779885012008-10-29T13:12:00.000+00:002008-10-29T13:12:00.000+00:00"anyone who knows anything about broadcasting will..."anyone who knows anything about broadcasting will know that the decision to broadcast lies not with them but with the producer, editor and ultimately the station controller."<BR/><BR/>I know a little more than you about broadcasting then.<BR/><BR/>it's quite commonplace these days for "talent" to have influence over the edit. Not unlikely that it's written into Ross' contract - possibly even an exec credit on his own shows.<BR/><BR/>This problem stems from a cultural, and systemic fault at the BBC. It's a stalinist monolith full of bully-boiy tactics where real talent either kow-tows or is squashed by bullies.<BR/><BR/>Montana above had it right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-31042896755971475562008-10-29T13:05:00.000+00:002008-10-29T13:05:00.000+00:00FIVE full pages in the Sun today. It's almost as i...FIVE full pages in the Sun today. <BR/><BR/>It's almost as if they're trying to keep other stories off the front or inside. <BR/><BR/>Like what was Mr Murdoch doing with Osborne, the Oligarch and Mandelson that day. <BR/><BR/>I love the line about Brand and Ross being disgusting, quickly followed by Georgine of "Satans Sluts" admitted she's shagged Brand not once, but three times and then expected him to be a gentleman about it.... Brand! I ask you. <BR/>She's a page 3 wannabe who's suddenly found a way to get fame, while Wade and co-horts have found another way to bitch-slap the BBC, keep Mr Murdoch out of public view and avoid any more stories about dodgy MPs. <BR/><BR/>You'd hardly think there was a global recession shitting people up would you, with FIVE FECKING PAGES OF MADE UP GUFF TO FOCUS MIDDLECLASS FAUX OUTRAGE NO, would you?<BR/><BR/>Carl EveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-70256946145525705852008-10-29T12:32:00.000+00:002008-10-29T12:32:00.000+00:00Oh dear oh dear.We live in a world where everyone ...Oh dear oh dear.<BR/><BR/>We live in a world where everyone is just waiting to be shocked and horrified. We live in a world where minorities, including blacks, homosexuals and muslims just want to suffer for the cause.<BR/><BR/>We live in a world of moralists and martyrs. All fake and all self regarding.<BR/><BR/>What really disgusts me, is not the antics of two overpaid tossers who are not worth the shit on their shoes, but the reaction of the righteous; the great and the good and the nobodies who would be burning witches in Salem and Catholics in Rouen today if they could get away with it.<BR/><BR/>Feck you all and stuff your TV licenses up your arses while you are doing it. You make the world a shit place to live in.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-42043506628940583192008-10-29T11:32:00.000+00:002008-10-29T11:32:00.000+00:00Brand acts like scum - we're paying for that scum ...Brand acts like scum - we're paying for that scum with our taxes. I want him gone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-37115698367342549912008-10-29T11:22:00.000+00:002008-10-29T11:22:00.000+00:00Anonymous said... The simple fact is that if Ro...Anonymous said...<BR/><BR/> The simple fact is that if Ross and Brand had been employees of any other organisation, private or public, they would have been instantly sacked. The chief ececutive would have issued an immediate apology without any caveats. <BR/><BR/>I agree entirely and you, Iain, would have been amongst those baying for blood.Catosayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02885445175868379750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-17363122600657387652008-10-29T11:11:00.000+00:002008-10-29T11:11:00.000+00:00Your argument doesn't make much sense, Iain.Broadc...Your argument doesn't make much sense, Iain.<BR/><BR/>Broadcasting the offensive material was bad - and was the producers' fault. <BR/><BR/>But leaving an offensive and upsetting message on the answering machine of a decent, dignified and blameless 78-year old man was, in itself, also bad - whether anyone broadcast the material or not. And the fact remains that in any other context this sort of bullying, abusive behaviour would not be sanctioned - let alone subsidized to the tune of many millions of £££ per year.<BR/><BR/>By all means sack the editors and producers - but let's get rid of Ross and Brand, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com