tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post294270705308288606..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: How the BBC Does Labour's Dirty WorkIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger111125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-7165469114758469582008-02-29T17:28:00.000+00:002008-02-29T17:28:00.000+00:00Politics gets into everything and will probably be...Politics gets into everything and will probably benefit the BBC directly so it isn't surprizing to see politics creeping into all headlines no matter how unusual the connectionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4378510168088751512007-10-14T11:33:00.000+01:002007-10-14T11:33:00.000+01:00Anyone, like me, the morniing after a great sporti...Anyone, like me, the morniing after a great sporting victory for the English Rugby team, think the top story headline on the BBC news website and Telext "Brown praises fantastic England" is more evidence of the BBC/Nulab organistion being in league with Browns Britishness propananda campaign - nauseating.<BR/>Dan, DerbyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-86068710960145225432007-08-17T14:34:00.000+01:002007-08-17T14:34:00.000+01:00I think you are absolutely right. The BBC has beco...I think you are absolutely right. The BBC has become really sloppy of late. I'm not left or right wing in general but the BBC always used to be above political bias.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-59887348965751297452007-08-15T02:27:00.000+01:002007-08-15T02:27:00.000+01:00What I would be interested in Iain is the actual e...What I would be interested in Iain is the actual evidence. Helen Boaden has responded to you citing her evidence showing how wrong you are. <BR/><BR/>I am a Liberal Democrat, not a Labour supporter and I am also critical of the BBCs rigidity and over promotion of Natasha Kaplinsky at the expense of Moira Stewart but you really should cite your evidence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-56470866256646674902007-08-14T14:32:00.000+01:002007-08-14T14:32:00.000+01:00BJ, and others: When did you last hear a BBC inter...BJ, and others: When did you last hear a BBC interviewer ask questions like this:<BR/><BR/>1) Can nothing be done to reduce the burden of taxation in this country?<BR/><BR/>2) Why do you think big business has been so outstandingly successful over the last decade?<BR/><BR/>3) How much of our legislation is now effectively dictated by the EU?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-52362900090830810652007-08-13T23:57:00.000+01:002007-08-13T23:57:00.000+01:00I saw this story covered on News 24 yesterday in s...I saw this story covered on News 24 yesterday in shocking BBC style.<BR/><BR/>Political correspondent Laura Kuenssberg was in the studio giving details of Redwood's proposals and then the news anchor, Maxine Mawinney, replied "Isn't this just turning its back on modernisation?". <BR/><BR/>Laura Kuenssberg then helpfully suggested that many people are saying if we wanted to withdraw from regulations in the social chapter, we might need to leave the EU to implement these proposals, which would fit Redwood's agenda.<BR/><BR/>To add to this travesty, she said previous Tory governments had tried to get us out of the social chapter, which is surely just factually incorrect because I don't think we even signed up to it until Blair came in.<BR/><BR/>Mawhinney then proceeded to give an exceedingly soft interview to someone from the TUC along the lines of "please tell the viewers why these Tory proposals are so wrong".<BR/><BR/>What a joke that channel is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-37599918195195538552007-08-13T17:48:00.000+01:002007-08-13T17:48:00.000+01:00http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6944588.stm...http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6944588.stm<BR/><BR/>How does this 'Tony Blair is awesome' puff piece count as news? I know he's not even an MP anymore, but this is essentially the story that the former PM is in a magazine somewhere, and that nice things have been said about him...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-65582797340831907822007-08-13T17:25:00.000+01:002007-08-13T17:25:00.000+01:00It's worth adding that in the BBC Online report th...It's worth adding that in the BBC Online report they highlight two quotations from the TUC and one from Andy Burnham. Despite the story being about the Conservatives, the coverage was minimal.Ewan Watthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18193162057108452435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-73890342933155180622007-08-13T17:17:00.000+01:002007-08-13T17:17:00.000+01:00Instant google provides this from last week: "Lack...Instant google provides <A HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6935401.stm" REL="nofollow">this from last week</A>: <BR/><BR/>"Lack of funding for research is partly to blame for the current foot-and-mouth crisis, according to a Berkshire MP.<BR/><BR/>Richard Benyon, Conservative MP for Newbury, criticised the government's response to animal infections..."<BR/><BR/>Could it be that you just don't notice when the BBC does it the other way round? As BJ says, the Beeb often opens reports with "the Conservatives have criticised the government for [insert latest woeful government incompetence here]".<BR/><BR/>Are you saying that the Beeb shouldn't allow Labour ministers to spout their party political talking points and only let the Tories do it? Can't see how that would possibly work.Garryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08188217045700587288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-31401860672729722282007-08-13T16:44:00.000+01:002007-08-13T16:44:00.000+01:00David Boothroyd asked me a question. Yes, I do th...David Boothroyd asked me a question. Yes, I do think non-biased news reporting should extend to the Daily Mail. I make no complaint about (editorial) commentary and columns for commentators, but news articles should be impartial.<BR/><BR/>Hugo isn't right in what he says. The BBC were continually accused of anti-Tory bias in the 1980s. Remember when their Glasgow office was raided in 1987?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-14357284373910576382007-08-13T16:42:00.000+01:002007-08-13T16:42:00.000+01:00That must rank as one of the more stupid posts tha...That must rank as one of the more stupid posts that have ever appeared on this blog.<BR/><BR/>1. I do not claim to be a bastion of objectivity. I am a Conservative blogger and commentator. I do not pretend to be objective<BR/><BR/>2. The point I was making was about the BBC - not a newspaper. The BBC is funded by the taxpayer and has legal obligations to be even handed. Newspapers do not. End of story.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-45144673423249817562007-08-13T16:39:00.000+01:002007-08-13T16:39:00.000+01:00"Can I just conclude by saying that I would make t..."Can I just conclude by saying that I would make the same point if they started their report about a Labour policy announcement with the words 'The Conservatives today criticised...' It's just that I have never heard them do this!"<BR/><BR/>I must say I laughed when I read this. It was only a few days ago that Iain lauded the Sun headline on the day of the 1992 election. http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2007/08/thank-god-this-man-never-became-pm.html#links<BR/><BR/>How can you claim to be a bastion of press objectivity on monday when you believe the Sun's treatment of Labour in the 80s and 90s was responsible journalism on SundayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72774835694156134842007-08-13T15:43:00.000+01:002007-08-13T15:43:00.000+01:00This is an even worse bit of BBCism: http://www.bb...This is an even worse bit of BBCism: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2007/08/cut_and_paste.html<BR/><BR/>To paraphrase: "golly gosh, everyone's being so jolly mean about that EU constitution, but that awfully nice Mr Murphy who is awfully handsome too, well, he says it's just all tea and crumpets!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-3355201910776170852007-08-13T15:32:00.000+01:002007-08-13T15:32:00.000+01:00I like when Chalkie White at the Guardian does the...I like when Chalkie White at the Guardian does the papers he is so witty everyone has a good laugh.Harriet Hamsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14081815172915802675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-60529569493165859582007-08-13T15:26:00.000+01:002007-08-13T15:26:00.000+01:00State run tv - so what's new? The real underlying ...State run tv - so what's new? The real underlying story here is why Dave's love-in with the BBC has failed miserably. Also, why are the Tory wets trying to shore up their position using the 'right' when the polls are showing the cons going down the pan? Is it because when they fail again they can continue to lay the blame elsewhere and keep saying they didn't go far enough in their modernising?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-48806648215114157402007-08-13T14:47:00.000+01:002007-08-13T14:47:00.000+01:00Can someone email George W. Bush about nuking the ...Can someone email George W. Bush about nuking the BBC? The BBC always plays down Islamofascist terrorism and trained most of Al-Jazzera's personel.Sir-C4'https://www.blogger.com/profile/03917709983378003032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-21722679121367058962007-08-13T12:57:00.000+01:002007-08-13T12:57:00.000+01:00Newmania you are brilliant.Newmania you are brilliant.Little Black Sambohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699227938165106710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-69775349840437005452007-08-13T11:57:00.000+01:002007-08-13T11:57:00.000+01:00hugoRe the BBC's bias: "It's not a pro-Labour bias...hugo<BR/><BR/>Re the BBC's bias: "It's not a pro-Labour bias, it's a pro-government bias."<BR/>"If the Tories were in power it would be the other way round,"<BR/><BR/>Obviously, you weren't around during the Thatcher/Major years. Otherwise you couldn't have made such a fatuous comment.The Sage of Muswell Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07680974656418752948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-59659643299534639302007-08-13T11:35:00.000+01:002007-08-13T11:35:00.000+01:00BJ..and with a toss of her pony tail Tamara strode...BJ..and with a toss of her pony tail Tamara strode purposefully form the netball court.....Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-33569523489236888472007-08-13T11:27:00.000+01:002007-08-13T11:27:00.000+01:00It's not a pro-Labour bias, it's a pro-government ...It's not a pro-Labour bias, it's a pro-government bias. It's always been the same. If the Tories were in power it would be the other way round, but you probably wouldn't be complaining about that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57448205991254404692007-08-13T11:12:00.000+01:002007-08-13T11:12:00.000+01:00Anon1829 is correct.Cameron will get significant s...Anon1829 is correct.<BR/>Cameron will get significant support if he attacks the BBC for its obvious bias and puts a team onto monitoring its activities as websites in the USA are doing.<BR/>David Davis is the perfect man to manage and advise on the team on this but he needs support from some serious spin doctors.<BR/>The Boris Johnson mayor affair with "Black MP's" being 3 days later changed to "Labour MP's" is an obvious case, but every Today Programme on Radio 4 has biased instances. Today they showed overt support and encouragement for the demonstrations at Heathrow by the headline "more demonstrators are going to Heathrow"<BR/>Colin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-22934546643903949992007-08-13T10:21:00.000+01:002007-08-13T10:21:00.000+01:00If it'll satisfy you: I have actually supported To...If it'll satisfy you: I have actually supported Tory, Labour and Lib Dem election candidates in the past.<BR/><BR/>Can't be arsed going round in circles any more. You can think you've "beaten me" if it makes you happy.BJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05244614921212446782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63168739671007830112007-08-13T10:03:00.000+01:002007-08-13T10:03:00.000+01:00I can't speak for anyone else at work, but I just ...I can't speak for anyone else at work, but I just don't let my political opinions colour my work. <BR/><BR/> That’s a yes ! Ah you are super human able to set aside you beliefs excuse me for being tad cynical when there is clear evidence that whatever your personal genius for disengagement ( I jest) it is not reflected over the BBC`s coverage . The minotaur study on the pro and anti EU statements and interviews over five years for example on the EU show a two to one pro EU ratio. A untoward emphasis on Conservative Party division on Europe (reflected by the coverage of the Redwood ( FAR RIGHT) proposals that some of the of the last ten years might be dealt with ) . The BBC are still in denial about this awkward fact. Rather than defending the indefensible you might set your keen journalistic mind onto discovering how it is that I am to know your political views without any more knowledge than you job and occupation . How can you possibly go on averting your gaze to this disgraceful imposition. I `m afraid I already know the answer to that as well.<BR/><BR/> <BR/>”Here's another analogy. One of my colleagues is biased towards QPR Football Club. He loves them. Goes to as many games as he can. And he quite often writes about football for work. But is his football copy somehow "biased" towards QPR? Course not.”<BR/><BR/>I took some considerably mirth from what I hope was the unintentionally patrician tone of this remark. An analogy eh cooo ! Allow me to explain how an analogy works .It takes disparate subjects and sheds light on one by referring to a similarity between them.( How do you like it ?) You have chosen two subjects that have nothing relevant in common though and that is why your “analogy” is worthless. I do hope that the general view of the BBC is that if I can disengage from something as trivially one dimensional as football team my entire world view is much the same. Hardly. I do accept there is an attempt at some discipline but it usually fails It is simply not acceptable to have one political view overwhelmingly in the majority and “Trust “ that they will not take advantage of this .<BR/><BR/> Think your point on the news worthiness of the Heathrow protesters is not entirely unreasonable but then it is undercut by the extent to which the BBC sets the newsworthiness agenda itself. Where is the investigation into EU corruption? Where is the investigation into systematic lying on immigration figures, where is the investigation into the exaggerated claim as of the environmental lobby ? If the BBC had to earn a living it is unlikely these hot topics would be so neglected. It is not, as you say , rocket science.Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-85502846340874875392007-08-13T09:07:00.000+01:002007-08-13T09:07:00.000+01:00I see that both Al-beeb and the mail have now read...I see that both Al-beeb and the mail have now readjusted their respective headlines to something more appropriate. <BR/><BR/>Pity it's too little too late, since the majority of the public will have read yesterdays headline article, and are unlikely to absorb the reality of what the report is actually about. Now they have read the Nu-lab spin machines version. :/Flavioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06522167831229222041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-31076024433724252492007-08-13T01:46:00.000+01:002007-08-13T01:46:00.000+01:00What, no discussion of Redwood’s actual proposals,...What, no discussion of Redwood’s actual proposals, Iain?<BR/><BR/>David Cameron ignored the recommendations of Iain Duncan Smith, for which there existed and exists an enormous popular constituency. And he is most unlikely to adopt the recommendations of John Redwood, not because they are unpleasant or unpopular (although they are certainly both), nor even because they come out of a long tradition of people who accrue to the fringes of the Conservative Party while not actually Tories at all (Ralph Harris the Cross Bench peer, Arthur Seldon the lifelong Liberal, and so forth), but for the same reason as he failed to adopt IDS’s agenda: he cannot guarantee that Labour would do so at the same time.<BR/><BR/>Actually, Blair would have adopted Redwood’s proposals if Cameron had also done so (and possibly even if not), whereas Brown certainly won’t. But Brown would have adopted IDS’s proposals if Cameron had also done so (and might yet adopt some of them), whereas Blair certainly wouldn’t have done. Therein lies such difference as there is between Blair and Brown.<BR/><BR/>But therein also lies the most dangerous thing that they have in common, both with each other and with Cameron: a total commitment to acting in unison with the other party on everything that really matters, since any other approach would be to abandon “the centre ground”.David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.com