tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post2747751962930235068..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: How to Cope With a Bullying PrescottIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-25434287144488270492010-02-24T00:58:28.143+00:002010-02-24T00:58:28.143+00:00Sounds like she is a snob. The difference between...Sounds like she is a snob. The difference between Prescott and the other MP's is that the "Northern accent" is deemed extra common. This is probably due to the fact that people get their views of Northerners, particularly Mancunians, from Coronation Street. A soap in which they play up the fact that they are common and Northern for comic effect. The title also makes you think of royalty and satiates a need in this class ridden society for us to look down on someone.<br /><br />They only way to solve this would be to remove the monarchy:<br />http://www.republic.org.uk/furkanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15976551385719695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-21164076716682969722010-02-23T21:19:59.383+00:002010-02-23T21:19:59.383+00:00@ Salisbury
Blakeys.@ Salisbury<br /><br />Blakeys.Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-12896848575740268952010-02-23T18:24:54.565+00:002010-02-23T18:24:54.565+00:00@salisbury
No, hobnail boots.@salisbury<br /><br />No, hobnail boots.Roger Thornhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03591327286533118901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-26589729160782650462010-02-23T16:02:01.418+00:002010-02-23T16:02:01.418+00:00The bit that intrigues me about Bighead's stor...The bit that intrigues me about Bighead's story was the "click-clack" she heard as Prescott came up behind her at admiralty house.<br /><br />was he wearing high-heel shoes?HampsteadOwlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10579484010636107402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-90271362351071427142010-02-23T14:06:40.850+00:002010-02-23T14:06:40.850+00:00"This is from Mary Ann Sieghart's column ..."This is from Mary Ann Sieghart's column in today's Times." No it isn't.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13640931424505754508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-82034568137078687242010-02-23T13:04:10.808+00:002010-02-23T13:04:10.808+00:00@ Despairing Liberal
Setting aside the nature and...@ Despairing Liberal<br /><br />Setting aside the nature and length of the character assassination of Mrs Pratt for a moment, does the article in The Mail actually dispute or disprove any of the allegations about Brown?<br /><br />You make assumptions as to the occupancy of No 10 which are entirely premature. <br /><br />But to quote from the Mail article "However, the helpline office is two doors from the local Conservative Association and David Cameron endorses the charity on its website.", I'd make two points:<br /><br />Does a vegan living two doors away from a butcher's shop thus endorse meat eating? And you'll probably understand that Cameron's endorsement was not of the charity as a whole but of the stated aims and intentions of the charity - not quite the same thing. <br /><br />I note that the cretinous Woolas has now jumped on the bandwagon of personal vilification, rather than addressing the issue. Do these people all have something to hide?Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-55990834726750176682010-02-23T12:43:57.176+00:002010-02-23T12:43:57.176+00:00Gosh Wrinkled, I'm touched.
As for Unsworth -...Gosh Wrinkled, I'm touched.<br /><br />As for Unsworth - yes I did get that she was not an employee. Which makes the story more interesting. Surely it is open to her to ignore the "summons" until he had his Mars Bar and calmed down.<br /><br />yawn. Have none of you people ever had the misfortune of working for the Public sector? Bullying, and I mean real bullying is absolute-effing-lootely rife.krishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01984620763250118501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-65505935173521529322010-02-23T12:29:37.044+00:002010-02-23T12:29:37.044+00:00Kris, for once, I agree with you, about bullying, ...Kris, for once, I agree with you, about bullying, as far as you go, but it can take many forms. Creating an atmosphere of intimidation, such as the one MAS describes is just one of them.<br /><br /> I described it thus:<br /><br />Bullying is like a slow freezing wind; pernicious, inveigling and ultimately incapacitating. It can take so many forms and is such a long game that it is inherently undectectable until it is too late.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54821103413379988222010-02-23T11:21:35.101+00:002010-02-23T11:21:35.101+00:00Unsworth, as the Mail says today about the Tory...Unsworth, as the Mail says today about the Tory's attitude to these allegations in an interesting <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1253047/The-truth-multiple-litigant-Mrs-Pratt--high-priestess-victimhood.html" rel="nofollow">article about Mrs Pratt</a>:<br /><br />"How different to the last General Election campaign, when Mr Cameron's predecessor, Michael Howard, said: 'The time has come to liberate the nation from the avalanche of political correctness, costly litigation, feeble justice and culture of compensation running riot in Britain today."<br /><br />I suspect this is still the Tory view and after the Election we will hear little about the need for anti-bullying measures. Particularly once Andy Coulson is firmly ensconsed at Number 10!DespairingLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903904463236135611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76776155457342734482010-02-23T11:20:59.062+00:002010-02-23T11:20:59.062+00:00The amusing part is the the Deputy Prime Minister ...The amusing part is the the Deputy Prime Minister had so little work to do that he could spend an hour trying (badly) to improve his image with a journalist.igbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06462273541884664890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-10223701644695753672010-02-23T11:11:14.895+00:002010-02-23T11:11:14.895+00:00I remember reading the article back in 2008 and my...I remember reading the article back in 2008 and my opinion of Prescott has not changed one bit.<br /><br />He is a very well balanced person, what with enormous chips on both shoulders.Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13107845101737790640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-30998713398269036152010-02-23T10:39:55.623+00:002010-02-23T10:39:55.623+00:00Why hasn't John Prescott attended the Chilcot ...<a href="http://listeningblogger.blogspot.com/2010/02/iraq-inquiry-rt-hon-john-prescott-mp.html" rel="nofollow">Why hasn't John Prescott attended the Chilcot Inquiry yet?</a>Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358349301959327747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-62610106440249879042010-02-23T10:38:17.960+00:002010-02-23T10:38:17.960+00:00Richard, I have just watched the Newsnight Rawnsle...Richard, I have just watched the Newsnight Rawnsley/Prescott segment and the followup debate with Woy, David Steele and Danny Finkelstein (the latter, hilariously, representing the Tories on the panel!) and by no stretch, impartially, could anyone conclude that Rawnsley was "cowered" by Paxman or "pummelled" by Prezza as you put it.<br /><br />In fact, what came out was that the evidence he has to back up his accounts of Brown's conduct is very solid and he poured scorn on the attempts by Prescott and Mandleson to fog that. Most laughably when he pointed out that Prescott and his wife have both made money themselves by breaching New Labour confidences!<br /><br />The shouting match between Rawnsley and Prescott reminded one that we are in the Last Days of the Empire.<br /><br />Hattersley came over as a simpering idiot, Finkelstein as hopelessly stuck in right-wing automode. David Steele made the most sense on the panel, accurately describing the descent into gutter politics.DespairingLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903904463236135611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-77504053512006410202010-02-23T10:35:20.730+00:002010-02-23T10:35:20.730+00:00Sending Prescott out to crush a story about bullyi...Sending Prescott out to crush a story about bullying at least proves that somebody in the Labour machine has a sense of humour. Who would they get to front up if Brown was accused of murder? Tony Soprano?Moriartyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02636946960473769348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-74807200495914293232010-02-23T10:30:20.816+00:002010-02-23T10:30:20.816+00:00@ richard blogger
Care to elaborate on the differ...@ richard blogger<br /><br />Care to elaborate on the difference between 'impaired judgement' and 'disagreement'?Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88170249802152138402010-02-23T10:27:46.170+00:002010-02-23T10:27:46.170+00:00@ kris
So you think Ms Sieghart is/was one of Pre...@ kris<br /><br />So you think Ms Sieghart is/was one of Prescott's employees? If not then what gives Prescott the right to demand her presence and generally harangue her? <br /><br />Isn't the significance of this report the fact that the fat poltroon Prescott believes he's entitled to treat and deal with people in this uncivilised manner? And is it just possible that the whole culture of the Government is exemplified by his behaviour?Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-23354827448878788572010-02-23T10:05:39.825+00:002010-02-23T10:05:39.825+00:00True Paddy.
One other aspect of this story though...True Paddy.<br /><br />One other aspect of this story though. Cameron is railing against bullying and calling for an investigation. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't one of the most prominent characteristics of the Bullingdons at Oxford that they engaged in bullying of lesser "oinks", eg, kids not from their elite Eton circles? Just curious.DespairingLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903904463236135611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57878517595976907882010-02-23T09:40:54.902+00:002010-02-23T09:40:54.902+00:00Wasn't in today's Times, she wrote that tw...Wasn't in today's Times, she wrote that two years ago. Not that it really matters, it illustrates a point well.<br /><br />Worst thing about Prescott's Newsnight appearance last night was him having a go at Rawnsley for protecting his sources anonymity. Unlike the Government who are quite happy to hang people like David Kelly out to dry when it helps to protect them...Paddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17790241838601339104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-58944077583897186532010-02-23T09:38:17.139+00:002010-02-23T09:38:17.139+00:00Iain, you really are a snob yourself, and have som...Iain, you really are a snob yourself, and have some sort of vendetta against the great Buffoon himself. Last night, Andrew Rawnsley was cowered by Paxman and verbally pummelled by Prescott. So what does Dale tweet? <br /><br /><i>"Rawnsley smashes Prescott. He's a thug dressed in a suit. I'm on Richard Bacon with him next Monday... Boy am i looking forward to it."</i><br /><br />I cannot comment on the second sentence, after all, it seems somewhat libellous to call the political editor of the Observer a thug, but let's ignore that. Rawnsley clearly lost that bout. Clearly. He came back at the end with a few snide remarks about the Prescott memoir but hardly "smashes Prescott".<br /><br />Clearly your judgenment is impaired, and reprinting Mary Ann Bighead's column shows that you simply don't have anything original to say.richard.bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589364986804437392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-29142991266666272052010-02-23T09:28:26.435+00:002010-02-23T09:28:26.435+00:00Kris wrote:
I've been bullied at work and it i...Kris wrote:<br /><i>I've been bullied at work and it is a bit more serious than an outburst, a hissy-fit.<br /><br />Bullying's a bit more insidious. It's the little things, that on their own look like nothing. it's a sustained attack to undermine your credibility, to isolate you and to pick you off.</i><br /><br />You mean like looking someone in the eye and blatantly lying about a document sitting between the two of you? Refusing to take ownership of your own behaviour, then getting verbally abusive and physically intimidating when your version of events isn't uncritically accepted?<br /><br />I think it would be in rather poor taste to speculate on Prescott's mental health or whether he was ever fit for high public office. But I do have to question the political judgement of anyone who would cross the line between spin and flat out lying to a journalist. Dumb as ten pounds of fresh manure in a five pound bag.Craig Ranapiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08923246310584658857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-91387658927376089622010-02-23T09:23:00.797+00:002010-02-23T09:23:00.797+00:00Bloody hilarious!
It remains one of the stranger ...Bloody hilarious!<br /><br />It remains one of the stranger things about Blair that he kept Prezza in for so long as DPM - that stuff about him being needed to provide a faux-working-class front doesn't really hold up, as Mary-Ann Bighead says.<br /><br />I think the sad truth is that Blair just kinda liked the guy and so, as with so many other Blair cronies, kinda, ya know, just sorta, ya know, wanted the guy around. "John's John". Great. Brilliant. Thanks Prime Minister. Lovely.DespairingLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903904463236135611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-161141298480392212010-02-23T09:19:02.305+00:002010-02-23T09:19:02.305+00:00Watched your thread on Facebook. The article is fr...Watched your thread on Facebook. The article is from 2008. Still very relevant though. :)Dual Citizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05688872768973943522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-48347267655979670532010-02-23T09:15:39.059+00:002010-02-23T09:15:39.059+00:00Across 4 channels yesterdy he tried to bully every...Across 4 channels yesterdy he tried to bully every interviewer with varying degress of success.<br /><br />And this was Labour's response to bullying accusations.<br /><br />Prescott is not clever enough or subtle enough to appreciate the irony.Maverick Wayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03332863613116516006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-43542851410595570912010-02-23T09:09:24.370+00:002010-02-23T09:09:24.370+00:00"“Well, she's not the only one who thinks...<i>"“Well, she's not the only one who thinks that,” he chuckled"</i> <br /><br />Heh! <br /><br />Didn't people say that when Blair went, it wouldn't be long before he'd be missed? <br /><br />It wasn't, was it?JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-73435214950317223302010-02-23T09:08:22.008+00:002010-02-23T09:08:22.008+00:00"come on people.
Who hasn't been carpete...<i>"come on people.<br /><br />Who hasn't been carpeted. Big deal."</i> <br /><br />There's a big, big difference in 'being carpeted' because of something you've done wrong, and being bullied because of something you're doing right...JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.com