tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post2676060060135797246..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Margaret Beckett Forgets Her ConvictionsIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-28983405114306651142007-03-15T16:26:00.000+00:002007-03-15T16:26:00.000+00:00qxjulg'But all credit to her for making a good fir...qxjulg'But all credit to her for making a good first of it.'<BR/><BR/>It’s Blearsesque in its detachment from honesty, integrity and decency. If you can be any more deluded than that bloke who resigned as jack straws assistant, on a matter of 'personal conscience' indicating bombing innocent people in Lebanon and Iraq was acceptable. How can supporting a government that has managed to make the Olympics cost half the figure it claims for trident be anything other than complicity in a fraud?Oriental Oratorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08562049376378187940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-12606292885587942952007-03-15T14:35:00.000+00:002007-03-15T14:35:00.000+00:00Oh really Iain! When the Tories get in I'm lookin...Oh really Iain! When the Tories get in I'm looking forward to seeing Ministers in major jobs regularly rebelling against government legislation. Leave poor Margaret alone. She voted your way. I should be the one angry with her but I'm not.<BR/><BR/>I am angry instead with the reptiles who hide the truth about timetables and life spans from poor MPs. I am prepared to give Blair the benefit of the doubt for doing a favour to Brown by saving him from having this debate in a couple or ten years time when it is really needed.<BR/><BR/>But they're both wrong on both timing of decision and on strategy.<BR/><BR/>Guido of course thinks they're wrong because we should build our own subs and missiles (as we do warheads) when/if we eventually need some.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-18261472143075126822007-03-15T13:40:00.000+00:002007-03-15T13:40:00.000+00:00Now, if her caravan got nuked, that would be a dif...Now, if her caravan got nuked, that would be a different matter!Arden Foresterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03209824268395133604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-51596878552123965862007-03-15T12:39:00.000+00:002007-03-15T12:39:00.000+00:00I don't think she can be bought for a ministerial ...I don't think she can be bought for a ministerial mondeo. She has always made it clear that she is a "party hack" who will agree with partypolicy whatever it happens to be.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-26675998461613038762007-03-15T00:00:00.000+00:002007-03-15T00:00:00.000+00:00It's late. My bleary eyes read,"Margaret Feckett ...It's late. My bleary eyes read,<BR/>"Margaret Feckett begets her convictions"Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-71214651560536704192007-03-14T18:42:00.000+00:002007-03-14T18:42:00.000+00:00Iain, I agree that she is a "gut unilaterlaist at ...Iain, I agree that she is a "gut unilaterlaist at heart," but, I must say, she seems to be one of the few members of the cabinet who follows the idea of collective responsibility. Whilst most of her colleagues are briefing off the record, we never seem to hear "from those who know the mind of Margaret Beckett......."<BR/>Despite my comments I am no great fan of her's; however in this day and age true loyalty to cabinet government is something that makes a minister stand out.Edwardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04489857732075232118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-16306333306494462292007-03-14T18:40:00.000+00:002007-03-14T18:40:00.000+00:00Sigh. I am still in favour of tax cuts, as well yo...Sigh. I am still in favour of tax cuts, as well you know. <BR/><BR/>I didn`t know that <BR/>GoodNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-71624684191209928202007-03-14T18:35:00.000+00:002007-03-14T18:35:00.000+00:00>freddy"How explicit is the Tory commitment that e...>freddy<BR/>"How explicit is the Tory commitment that every damfool green tax pound raised will be matched by a reduction in tax elsewhere ? "<BR/><BR/>Does your question imply you trust a politicians's words.<BR/><BR/>My experience is in the long run , they all lie...<BR/><BR/>Cos there is no recourse for the electorate. Now if we could tarandfeather all lying politicians.. but alas their rewards are writing books and columns in the Sun.<BR/><BR/>Anyone who trusts politicians is a muppet. period. proven.Madasafishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06109237198481955714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-82284198192629470952007-03-14T18:11:00.000+00:002007-03-14T18:11:00.000+00:00How explicit is the Tory commitment that every dam...How explicit is the Tory commitment that every damfool green tax pound raised will be matched by a reduction in tax elsewhere ?Freddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02209225168576143210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-90962312061002939122007-03-14T18:04:00.000+00:002007-03-14T18:04:00.000+00:00Edward, indeed, but I just don't think she has. Sh...Edward, indeed, but I just don't think she has. She's a gut unilaterlaist at heart. But all credit to her for making a good first of it.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-13271618829316439022007-03-14T18:02:00.001+00:002007-03-14T18:02:00.001+00:00If we are grown-up enough now not to swear and sni...If we are grown-up enough now not to swear and snigger, can't we be grown-up enough to accept that anyone is entitled to change their minds?Edwardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04489857732075232118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-68609889444278146022007-03-14T18:02:00.000+00:002007-03-14T18:02:00.000+00:00It certainly is.Even the sniff of power.How many m...It certainly is.<BR/><BR/>Even the sniff of power.<BR/><BR/>How many more principles will the Tories kick into the long grass in order to grab votes?<BR/><BR/>I would sign this blog "The Ghost of Patrick Mercer" but ...<BR/><BR/>shameless plug..see my take on trident..it's funny!Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-43115449230111691542007-03-14T17:58:00.000+00:002007-03-14T17:58:00.000+00:00testing ...testing ...Freddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02209225168576143210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-69208150677098848052007-03-14T17:47:00.001+00:002007-03-14T17:47:00.001+00:00Sigh. I am still in favour of tax cuts, as well yo...Sigh. I am still in favour of tax cuts, as well you know.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1068183958164662662007-03-14T17:47:00.000+00:002007-03-14T17:47:00.000+00:00I'd like to see what a Trident missile would do to...I'd like to see what a Trident missile would do to her caravan....Gordon Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17026686719065481051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-29243437187565996602007-03-14T17:45:00.000+00:002007-03-14T17:45:00.000+00:00"Power is a great diluter of conviction, is it not..."Power is a great diluter of conviction, is it not?"<BR/><BR/>Indeed, who would now believe that little over a year ago, you were managing a leadership campaign based in firm tax cuts...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09141816290471020806noreply@blogger.com