tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post2375699465409849878..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Tories to Sue LibDems Over Ealing LeafletIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87437277253680382622007-07-16T11:51:00.000+01:002007-07-16T11:51:00.000+01:00clearly no party should infringe the election rule...clearly no party should infringe the election rules, but i can;t help but feel that: <BR/><BR/>a) if the tories are doing this now they must feel threatened by the Lib Dems. <BR/>b) the voters will lose out because the story risks becomign about a spat rather than about a serious policy debate<BR/>c) it risks making the tories seem petit and small-minded. <BR/><BR/>i'm in no way endorsing, encouraging or condoning any rule breaking but cant we just have a by election that is fought cleanly on local issues? i was more annoyed about hte silly prezza on the LD website saying that the tories have admitted they can';t win the by election - a story based on what i think two tory mps sauid anonymously to the torygraph. it's just silly petit stirring which i guess looks good on a focus leaflet, but which on closer inspection by the least discerning of voters, is seen to be highly suspect. that said, i'm camapigning tonight in ealing to fight the good fight (although i'll closely inspect the leaflets i'm delivering!) <BR/><BR/>Olly KendallAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-3401722183175779382007-07-15T23:48:00.000+01:002007-07-15T23:48:00.000+01:00All together now..Iain Dale is a hypocriteIain Dal...All together now..<BR/>Iain Dale is a hypocrite<BR/>Iain Dale is a hypocrite<BR/>Iain Dale is a hypocrite<BR/>Iain Dale is a hypocrite<BR/>Iain Dale is a hypocrite<BR/>http://tinyurl.com/yox3akDuncan Borrowmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05301480655035778743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-61532590518762970952007-07-15T20:33:00.000+01:002007-07-15T20:33:00.000+01:00As is pointed by Duncam Borrowman and LibDemVoice,...As is pointed by Duncam Borrowman and LibDemVoice, mr. Dale is not above using other parties leaflets on his blog. They point specifically to the July 3 caption competition, that features a lib Dem leaflet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-29999256882473825732007-07-15T20:10:00.000+01:002007-07-15T20:10:00.000+01:00Dearest Iain,You are so quiet about Tony Git that ...Dearest Iain,<BR/><BR/>You are so quiet about Tony Git that it is earth shattering.<BR/><BR/>Oh yes, he didn't know it was a Labour fundraiser. For sure it was just an Asian thing that he liked to support. His hand slipped and he got his dad to sign a cheque for nearly five grand and then some,and of course it wasn't five grand cos then it would have to have been declared.<BR/><BR/>for heaven's sake, stop playing into the hands of all those who think you are in love with DC and post your thoughts.<BR/><BR/>(Francis Maude is unwell)Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72157382216679499472007-07-15T19:40:00.000+01:002007-07-15T19:40:00.000+01:00"I can't help wondering WHY the LibDems wanted to ..."I can't help wondering WHY the LibDems wanted to use a picture of Tony Lit and where they distributed this leaflet."<BR/><BR/>Quentin, I can think of one photo of the Tory candidate that will be used between now and Thursday - the one of him standing next to Tony Blair taken last month after he'd just handed over a cheque for £4,800 to Labour party funds. I wonder how many Labour leaflets in Ealing Southall were paid for with that. Ho! Ho! Ho!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-30553445920587987142007-07-15T19:37:00.000+01:002007-07-15T19:37:00.000+01:00"if we are so cofident why have we not commissione..."if we are so cofident why have we not commissioned an opinion poll from a creditable company? this is so obvious I am amazed it is not done."<BR/><BR/>Election Watcher, probably because it would blow the budget. Spending is limited, you know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40773794832114003162007-07-15T19:36:00.000+01:002007-07-15T19:36:00.000+01:00"In one marginal ward whenever they distributed a ..."In one marginal ward whenever they distributed a newsletter I sent out another two days later entitled "Out of Focus" in which we corrected their factual errors."<BR/><BR/>We do the same. We call it "Out of Touch" and it highlights how lazy some Tory councillors are. For example, two-thirds of Tory councillors in Westminster hold no regular surgeries for local people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-33958409010595663402007-07-15T18:54:00.000+01:002007-07-15T18:54:00.000+01:00Quentin Langley, are you so viciously anti-Lib Dem...Quentin Langley, are you so viciously anti-Lib Dem that you've failed to notice that ALL the major parties in this election are Asian-origin? Both in name and colour. So your silly partial (Tory?) proposed tactics would be a useless waste of time. Time-wasting, whether in such an unethical form as you propose or otherwise, is NOT advocated by m'Lord Rennard!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-9706912875160746692007-07-15T18:47:00.000+01:002007-07-15T18:47:00.000+01:00From someone who's actually had one of the Lib Dem...From someone who's actually had one of the Lib Dem leaflets delivered to me...<BR/>They've actually scanned a page of the Conservatives' literature - showing not only the photo of Tony Lit but also the Conservative logo and part of the text of their leaflet - and stuck it on their own literature. They've done the same to Labour.<BR/>Since all the leaflets carry an imprint, surely they must be protected by copyright?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4982595033949085782007-07-15T18:39:00.000+01:002007-07-15T18:39:00.000+01:00have just seen the 1st serious reporting of this b...have just seen the 1st serious reporting of this by-election on the crystal-set broadcast media [C4News 6.30pm Sun.] and it does not look good 4 Dave.<BR/>Also, at the end of the report C4 put up the official list of candidates & it appears Tony Lit is standing for a party called "David Cameron's Conservatives."<BR/>who the fuck are they?@molesworth_1https://www.blogger.com/profile/12278870362360637173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-56092291218837165652007-07-15T17:21:00.000+01:002007-07-15T17:21:00.000+01:00You guessed wrong Quention. Not true in the slight...You guessed wrong Quention. Not true in the slightest. But at least you had the decency to admit you were guessing :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-18118807839217098182007-07-15T16:52:00.000+01:002007-07-15T16:52:00.000+01:00I can't help wondering WHY the LibDems wanted to u...I can't help wondering WHY the LibDems wanted to use a picture of Tony Lit and where they distributed this leaflet. The normal behaviour of parties in by-elections is to ignore opponents, except for the purposes of squeezing the third party vote. Given my own knowledge of LibDem campaign tactics, I am guessing this leaflet was distributed only in predominantly white areas, probably on council estates or in bedsit areas. Not so subtle message: look the Tory candidate is Asian; hint, hint. Vote for us instead.Quentin Langleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06661235559969139584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-26847347420507669942007-07-15T16:38:00.000+01:002007-07-15T16:38:00.000+01:00so, why elect a horse?so, why elect a horse?weggishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04651722712995395981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-55605909758053243252007-07-15T15:03:00.000+01:002007-07-15T15:03:00.000+01:00Iain are you deliberately trying to wreck the mini...Iain are you deliberately trying to wreck the miniscule reputation you had for being a source of news with this king of Tory HQ planted nonsense? It really is a joke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-5014764354732168982007-07-15T14:02:00.000+01:002007-07-15T14:02:00.000+01:00"Grant Shapps and his team have drawn a line"- not..."Grant Shapps and his team have drawn a line"<BR/><BR/>- not something for Tory MPs to sniff at?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-84681405541399195692007-07-15T13:38:00.000+01:002007-07-15T13:38:00.000+01:00newwelshright said, "The Lib Dems... consistently ...newwelshright said, "The Lib Dems... consistently fail to realise that most people know what party has the incumbent and what party has the challenger".<BR/><BR/>Good. Because in Ealing Southall the incumbent party is Labour and the second-place party is the Liberal Democrats. Thank you for this opportunity to point that out AGAIN. The Conservative candidate in 2005 (who, I am guessing, was not a Conservative candidate whilst also being a Labour donor) came third.<BR/><BR/>And, this time the Conservative candidate - in addition to being a big donor to the Labour party - does not even live in the area.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-58776780027566970432007-07-15T12:27:00.000+01:002007-07-15T12:27:00.000+01:00The Lib Dems in Cardiff North at the recent Assemb...The Lib Dems in Cardiff North at the recent Assembly elections said they were the only challengers to Labour (eventual result Tories: 45%, Labour 31%, LibDem 12%). They did this by using the number of councillors on Cardiff Council as a guide of strength (not councillors in Cardiff North either). When the Tory candidate sent out a leaflet that said that Cardiff North voters elected a majority of Tory councillors (they did but two have become Independent since) a Lib Dem woman rang up our man's agent with a bollocking. <BR/><BR/>The Lib Dems are deceitful, ignorant lightweights who consistently fail to realise that most people know what party has the incumbent and what party has the challenger and that your typical voter knows that this hardly ever includes the LibDems. The Yellow Peril's attitude stems from their smug liberal hatred of the general public. Give 'em hell in Southall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-15891366554927803572007-07-15T09:27:00.000+01:002007-07-15T09:27:00.000+01:00Let us be clear. It is not a fringe of copywrite ...Let us be clear. It is not a fringe of copywrite to publish of a photograph of anyone. If you take the photo, then you own the copywrite. Thousands of pictures each day are taken of the guards outside Buckingham Palace but the guards do not own the copywrite. Copywrite is own by the photographer. So in all these instances, it all depends who took the photograph and did that person then sell on their copywrite or sold a licence to use the photograph.<BR/><BR/>It is one of the biggest problems that has faced the PR/Media world since the advent of the internet.<BR/><BR/>I am not sure, but I believe it is still illegal to reproduce a cheque or a photograph of a cheque.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-68649210550321478192007-07-15T04:23:00.000+01:002007-07-15T04:23:00.000+01:00Mark Senior 11.00pm: I thought Hank Marvin was a g...Mark Senior 11.00pm: I thought Hank Marvin was a guitarist with The Shadows? Maybe you mean Lee Marvin - he of the gravelly voice and Wandering Star fame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-967400799979930072007-07-15T02:55:00.000+01:002007-07-15T02:55:00.000+01:00Anonymous at 2.41am - your generation suffered not...Anonymous at 2.41am - your generation suffered nothing at all comparable to those in the 20s and 30s. Go learn some history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-43921101664293885722007-07-15T02:41:00.000+01:002007-07-15T02:41:00.000+01:00IainHave you noticed how in the 20th Century torie...Iain<BR/><BR/>Have you noticed how in the 20th Century tories in power = workers on the dole? My generation in the 80's & 90's shared the fate of our grandparents in the 20 & 30's - isn't it simply the case that the tories are the party of the selfish rich?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-20343875388104662442007-07-15T02:00:00.000+01:002007-07-15T02:00:00.000+01:00Wrinkled Weasel is correct.Wrinkled Weasel is correct.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-48251809687464605042007-07-15T01:29:00.000+01:002007-07-15T01:29:00.000+01:00I am interested to see that in the council by-elec...I am interested to see that in the council by-election in Ealing the Tories have used a Lib Dem copyright photo of our candidate.<BR/>In Leicester South we didn't use any copies of photos from our opponents, until the Tories regularly started doing it to us.<BR/>People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.Duncan Borrowmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05301480655035778743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-56912545187536719332007-07-15T00:47:00.000+01:002007-07-15T00:47:00.000+01:00Iain, what's your response to this post on LibDem ...Iain, what's your response to this post on LibDem Voice?<BR/><BR/>http://www.libdemvoice.org/iain-dale-1016.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-5220166661912915102007-07-14T23:53:00.000+01:002007-07-14T23:53:00.000+01:00Same old Tories. Same old lies.Same old Tories. Same old lies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com