tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post2201386616791610285..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Shapps Denies Astroturfing AllegationsIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-58635333505903515462007-07-13T15:48:00.000+01:002007-07-13T15:48:00.000+01:00Iain said: "Sometimes the story is not quite as go...Iain said: "Sometimes the story is not quite as good as one first thinks."<BR/><BR/>That reminds me... http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2007/06/exclusive-how-spinning-gordon-played.html<BR/><BR/>Like when four journalists all bother to contact you, deny what you claim and still you say they're lying? <BR/><BR/>I don't know whether that's a case of having ones cake and eating it or whether it's a case of a person in a glass house throwing stones. Do tell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-77105732269766340122007-07-13T12:26:00.000+01:002007-07-13T12:26:00.000+01:00Iain. People would respect you more as a political...Iain. People would respect you more as a political commentator if you had the balls to concede that Shapps did this himself and was caught out big time. I'm a Conservative and am no fool. You?Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15755490516141328662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-5960552387255096192007-07-11T13:48:00.000+01:002007-07-11T13:48:00.000+01:00Fizzy information fro Sh. . . you know who!Fizzy information fro Sh. . . you know who!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-11201337202771525642007-07-11T09:37:00.000+01:002007-07-11T09:37:00.000+01:00Iain, Love(d) your blog.The line you're running wi...Iain, <BR/>Love(d) your blog.<BR/>The line you're running with is completely ridiculous.<BR/>Don't patronise us, you're a blogger. Don't be spun!!!!! or you'll lose your readers big time.<BR/>Grant's a good guy, he cocked up, live with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-15774562937393808272007-07-11T09:05:00.000+01:002007-07-11T09:05:00.000+01:00MU: What's illiteration? Dizzy: Natch, someone mig...MU: What's illiteration? <BR/><BR/>Dizzy: Natch, someone might have a very weak password. But then again if they're an e-campaigner that's a stretch. And if they've been getting impersonated for 48 hours and they don't change it that is waaaaay to much to stomach.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72817813496200990182007-07-11T09:03:00.000+01:002007-07-11T09:03:00.000+01:00Grant 1234 Shapps is a Director of How To Corp Ltd...<B>Grant 1234 Shapps</B> is a Director of How To Corp Ltd which markets online tools. Currently, it is promoting iDovos, an identity protection service.<BR/><BR/>It sounds like he could use the service himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-19721489258903302702007-07-11T09:02:00.000+01:002007-07-11T09:02:00.000+01:00Still hard to believe that ANYONE believes this co...Still hard to believe that ANYONE believes this cock and bull story from Schweppes.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-67546676416524062212007-07-11T08:20:00.000+01:002007-07-11T08:20:00.000+01:00Whilst accepting the cock-up as the most likely ex...Whilst accepting the cock-up as the most likely explanation, the other scenario is a long way from impossible, or even improbable.<BR/><BR/>As has been said, it doesn't take much guessing to get most people's passwords. They don't bother with changing them, making them secure in the first instance, not re-using them all over the place, not leaving them on post-its by the PC. I could go on.<BR/><BR/>DLTUSR(*ALL)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40449506542626633302007-07-11T07:37:00.000+01:002007-07-11T07:37:00.000+01:00Iain, shame on you!Rule No.1 When in a hole stop d...Iain, shame on you!<BR/><BR/>Rule No.1 When in a hole stop diggingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-38810787325437472532007-07-11T01:01:00.000+01:002007-07-11T01:01:00.000+01:00Shapps would have been better advised to keep quie...Shapps would have been better advised to keep quiet. As it was he looked a bit silly. But his excuse is so lacking in credibility that he now looks far worse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-56358838538318102862007-07-10T22:50:00.000+01:002007-07-10T22:50:00.000+01:00Dale, you're making yourself look an idiot parroti...Dale, you're making yourself look an idiot parroting this denial. <BR/><BR/>Who has 1234 as their password? <BR/><BR/>I don't believe you believe it either ? Who would.Steve Jacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00949825546042555594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-45288218886105017342007-07-10T21:59:00.000+01:002007-07-10T21:59:00.000+01:00A marvellous effort at sabotaging your own credibi...A marvellous effort at sabotaging your own credibility, Iain. What on Earth were you thinking of when you wrote this?<BR/><BR/>Grant must have made you a damned good offer to persuade you to do it. A seat in the European Parliament perhaps, or a seat in the Lords (Baron Dale of Southall, anyone?)...<BR/><BR/>Of course, it could be worse, in that you might actually believe him. No, that's far too absurd...Mark Valladareshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15773193846795037711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-17877177510667759722007-07-10T20:42:00.000+01:002007-07-10T20:42:00.000+01:00Oh my gawd Iain , did you or Grant expect anyone t...Oh my gawd Iain , did you or Grant expect anyone to believe that load of rubbish . When in a hole stop digging .Mark Seniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06482009878893889107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4940381397520584272007-07-10T20:30:00.000+01:002007-07-10T20:30:00.000+01:00I can't believe you just posted that. Oh well, it'...I can't believe you just posted that. Oh well, it's your blog...<BR/><BR/>Chris Paul- leave the alliteration alone (ha!)- you're shit at it.Machiavelli's Understudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18150445761766304667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57436137409928220522007-07-10T18:55:00.000+01:002007-07-10T18:55:00.000+01:00" pretty minor offence compared to illegally raisi..." pretty minor offence compared to illegally raising 14m ponds"<BR/><BR/>was this posted by a Tory Toad in a hole?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-66953247557974342662007-07-10T18:54:00.000+01:002007-07-10T18:54:00.000+01:00So you actually believe that load of Tory Tosh? Wh...So you actually believe that load of Tory Tosh? Why wasn't it invented immediately?Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-92019182384767858262007-07-10T18:41:00.000+01:002007-07-10T18:41:00.000+01:00I believe the story - absolutely 100%.I also belie...I believe the story - absolutely 100%.<BR/><BR/>I also believe in nursery rhymes and the tooth fairy.<BR/><BR/>Really, please do not insult our intelligence or are Conservative MPs that dumb?Madasafishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06109237198481955714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-85126233629413488442007-07-10T18:38:00.000+01:002007-07-10T18:38:00.000+01:00I love the fact some Tories are so dozy they actua...I love the fact some Tories are so dozy they actually seem to believe Grant, that his pitifully protected account was hacked and a lib dem posted that comment. Er, sounds plausible.<BR/><BR/>Just imagine the scene, Mark Pack et al, sat in the Lib Dem HQ . . . Shifty Mark suddenly has a bright idea. "Wait a minute, what if I try to log on to Grant Shapp's Youtube account . . . just input his email. Now, what could his password be. How about "1234". Oh my God, it works!"<BR/><BR/>Accept that Grant has been caught out. His excuse is so weak. And accept, if you can without having heart attacks, that when it comes to dirty campaigning, you guys are more than happy to do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-73761413491623629322007-07-10T18:26:00.000+01:002007-07-10T18:26:00.000+01:00Amusing to compare the ponderous Wikipedia definit...Amusing to compare the ponderous Wikipedia definition of ASTROTURFING highlighted by Anon 5.36 PM<BR/><BR/><I>In American politics and advertising, the term astroturfing pejoratively describes formal public relations projects which deliberately seek to engineer the impression of spontaneous public reactions to a politician or political grouping, product, service, event, etc. by many diverse and distributed individuals acting of their own volition, when in fact the efforts are centrally coordinated. <BR/><BR/>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing<BR/><BR/>So now we all know!</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>with the beautifully succint definition offered by Steve_Roberts:<BR/><BR/><I>Astroturf = fake grassroots</I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-15323210324003946502007-07-10T18:11:00.000+01:002007-07-10T18:11:00.000+01:00Who cares whether he did or not? Everyone's at it,...Who cares whether he did or not? Everyone's at it, especially NuLab trolls.<BR/>Chris Paul may or not be interested to know that I'm responsible for half his appearances. And you won't be surprised that I'm not Freddie Freeloader either.<BR/>My real name is..BANG! Arrghhh!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-70408995055095397712007-07-10T18:06:00.000+01:002007-07-10T18:06:00.000+01:00On the passwords thing... Google appears to be pre...On the passwords thing... Google appears to be pressing users over to Google accounts in place of their old YT accounts, thus the confusion.<BR/><BR/>It also need to be noted that Google and the Tory party get on very well indeed, so it should be a simple matter from Mr Shapps to have YT provide what information they can about the alleged miscreant.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-9890243147142325912007-07-10T17:59:00.000+01:002007-07-10T17:59:00.000+01:00I'm loving that Dale is the only known netizen who...I'm loving that Dale is the only known netizen who's buying this denial (or claiming to).Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-55722459834001767992007-07-10T17:57:00.000+01:002007-07-10T17:57:00.000+01:00Unity is wrong - you can log in to YouTube with a ...Unity is wrong - you can log in to YouTube with a username, you don't need an email. despite which, I still don't buy Grants weasally excuse for a second.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-41393444043566929242007-07-10T17:48:00.000+01:002007-07-10T17:48:00.000+01:00If you believe that, you will believe anything.If you believe that, you will believe anything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-80391424533284608022007-07-10T17:43:00.000+01:002007-07-10T17:43:00.000+01:00Thanks to aardvark too - will remember that link.Thanks to aardvark too - will remember that link.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com