tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post116914395135863232..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: One Way to Revive Interest in ParliamentIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169477933923347642007-01-22T14:58:00.000+00:002007-01-22T14:58:00.000+00:00Let me help you Iain.... Video and Audio footage o...Let me help you Iain.... Video and Audio footage of Parliament: Parliament homepage > Quicklinks on the right-hand side > Link to Video and Audio. <BR/><BR/>Within the Video and Audio service you'll find live and archived footage from the Commons and Lords chambers, Westminster Hall and many committees.<BR/><BR/>And, the website isn't run by the Serjeant at Arms Office - that would be the responsibility of the new joint Parliamentary Information and Communications Technology (PICT) department.<BR/><BR/>But hey, don't let facts ruin a rant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169475671807411952007-01-22T14:21:00.000+00:002007-01-22T14:21:00.000+00:00the video and audio link is right under the links ...the video and audio link is right under the links for lords and commons, thats hard to find? perhaps you need your eyes checked. Or maybe check your facts before running your mouth off...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169253005656856202007-01-20T00:30:00.000+00:002007-01-20T00:30:00.000+00:00It would certainly not cost the earth to do ...Ahe...<I>It would certainly not cost the earth to do ...</I><BR/><BR/>Ahem! This <I>is</I> government you're talking about!<BR/><BR/>Good idea nonetheless.Pogohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10812765444160924585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169206936507791392007-01-19T11:42:00.000+00:002007-01-19T11:42:00.000+00:00Unless we GET OUT of the EU any form of tinkering ...Unless we GET OUT of the EU any form of tinkering is pretty pointless. Parliament is just not important enough.Little Black Sambohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699227938165106710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169205767134081082007-01-19T11:22:00.000+00:002007-01-19T11:22:00.000+00:00Brilliant idea Iain, both to bring parliament and ...Brilliant idea Iain, both to bring parliament and politics further into the modern age (MPs blogging helps in this regard, as does your own). <BR/><BR/>Not sure, however, what effect it would have on improving political awareness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169204280527683182007-01-19T10:58:00.000+00:002007-01-19T10:58:00.000+00:00Dealing with the Sergeant at Arms office is like p...Dealing with the Sergeant at Arms office is like pissing into the wind.<BR/><BR/>At least Judith Scott Thompson's finally been carted off to the knacker's yardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169202767224209172007-01-19T10:32:00.000+00:002007-01-19T10:32:00.000+00:00www.holyrood.tv is an excellent model for this. It...www.holyrood.tv is an excellent model for this. It was set up as a direct result of the Scottish Parliament's desire to be much more accessible to the people than Westminster is - qf. select committees sitting in cities other than Edinburgh and a dedicated Petitions committee of MSPs being set up to review petitions from the public.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169202223453293332007-01-19T10:23:00.000+00:002007-01-19T10:23:00.000+00:00Good idea Iain, this is what the internet should b...Good idea Iain, this is what the internet should be for, but some of the comments are worrying.<BR/>God help us if the BBC get involved in this. By the time the guys from Broadcasting House have finished gold-plating the service the budget will be in the hundreds of millions and we'll be able to get a live feed from Chipping Norton Parish Council with signing for the deaf.<BR/>Why doesn't 18DS tender now you've overcome your streaming woes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169201420821432422007-01-19T10:10:00.000+00:002007-01-19T10:10:00.000+00:00imagine the cameras scanning the the beautiful mot...imagine the cameras scanning the the beautiful mother of parliments the subdued sound the camera cuts to the long shot showing both sides of long green seats ,very empty seats , apart from pmq and a few other bits , what will we see or hear on internet remember bt the isp's have a so called fair usage policy some blocked down to 2gig ,so are you going to waste your time looking at empty seats and use up your quota ,dont think soAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169201138064751442007-01-19T10:05:00.000+00:002007-01-19T10:05:00.000+00:00I share your disbelief, Iain. I can't believe ther...I share your disbelief, Iain. I can't believe there isn't more coverage of the day-to-day goings-on of Westminster. Even supposedly serious newspapers like the Telegraph now merely resort to parliamentary sketches, which are normally just an excuse to poke fun at politicians.<BR/><BR/>A lot of good work does go on every day in the Commons and the Lords, and it's sad that only the bad bits ever get news coverage. To read and hear the speeches of experienced politicans like Ken Clarke in full flow are a delight to behold. The drama aside, there are very important decisions made every day that impact on all of our lives. We can't rely on the established journalists to keep us informed.<BR/><BR/>The people of this country fought against the Establishment in the late eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries, with certain pioneering individuals eventually able to report daily on what went on in Parliament. Today we have the tools to watch every cough and sneeze, and have it recorded in high definition for posterity, but we don't.<BR/><BR/>There's definately potential for a blog that would provide a daily digest of debates and votes, not to mention recordings of debates. If only I were still a layabout student with the time to do something about it ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169200921762546592007-01-19T10:02:00.000+00:002007-01-19T10:02:00.000+00:00Darryl, you didn't read my article properly. I sai...Darryl, you didn't read my article properly. I said that they do live stream to an extent but it is not comprehensive and no one knows it's there.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169200804667799902007-01-19T10:00:00.000+00:002007-01-19T10:00:00.000+00:00I that you'll find that the parliament website alr...I that you'll find that the parliament website already has archived recordings for the last couple of years.<BR/><BR/>I think there's also coverage from the house of lords and select committee audio.<BR/><BR/>I accept that it's not pushed in your face, but it only took a quick google search for me to find it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169192211391617852007-01-19T07:36:00.000+00:002007-01-19T07:36:00.000+00:00Perhaps if the BBC had been given the license fee ...<I><BR/>Perhaps if the BBC had been given the license fee increase they wanted they could have done it.</I><BR/><BR/>Doubt it for three reasons.<BR/><BR/>1) Money is not an issue here, it would cost them the lose change in Jonathan Ross's turnups.<BR/>2) They would lose the opportunity to put a left wing spin on everything.<BR/>3) This would be true public service broadcasting, which might set a dangerous precedentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169191646124330542007-01-19T07:27:00.000+00:002007-01-19T07:27:00.000+00:00Your idea is interesting Iain.Many years ago I use...Your idea is interesting Iain.<BR/><BR/>Many years ago I used to read Hansard occasionally in the local library. Then the PM, one Margaret Thatcher abolished the subsidy paid to distribute Hansard to libraries and it disappeared.<BR/><BR/>I surmised that Parliament was going into Secret Session as it did during WWII and that we no longer needed to be aware that <I> There Is No Alternative</I> for The Leaderene had resolved we must simply obey.<BR/><BR/>With Westminster being run in the same dark way as the Council of Ministers and the EU it seemed that this was the new Order of Democratic Centralism as it permeated local councils and quangoes.<BR/><BR/>So I simply stopped voting in local elections until an extremist party could emerge to challenge the oligarchyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169178026148799292007-01-19T03:40:00.000+00:002007-01-19T03:40:00.000+00:00Iain this is a great idea! They could implement it...Iain this is a great idea! They could implement it in such a way as to really open it up to the web.<BR/><BR/>For example, wouldn't it be great if bloggers could embed clips of the proceedings into their blogs, directly from the archive site? That way, bloggers could share the good bits they've unearthed with the rest of the world and also use the clips to back up their articles.<BR/><BR/>Couldn't the Handard be used alongside the videos to make it machine searchable? So rather than having to delve through it all, you could jump to a particular persons speech or even search for when particular topics are mentioned?<BR/><BR/>I'm sure if they only opened the data up for people to access alot of innovative and useful projects would be born.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately though, government is only just catching up to web 1.0, I think it will be sometime until they reach web 2.0.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169165147774017742007-01-19T00:05:00.000+00:002007-01-19T00:05:00.000+00:00One Way to Revive Interest in Parliament - sorry i...<I> One Way to Revive Interest in Parliament</I> - sorry it's a bit late and I dropped off before I got to the end of all this. Are you sure Parliament needs its interests revived?Lobster Blogsterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14187795553504972758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169162727710303832007-01-18T23:25:00.000+00:002007-01-18T23:25:00.000+00:00One way to revive interest in parliament... doubt ...One way to revive interest in parliament... doubt it... they would be better of with a myspace page and a bebo page!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169154031147596742007-01-18T21:00:00.000+00:002007-01-18T21:00:00.000+00:00Perhaps if the BBC had been given the license fee ...Perhaps if the BBC had been given the license fee increase they wanted they could have done it. It doe seem odd though that parliament itself cannot do these things. I am in complete agreement with Iain on this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169153160005581582007-01-18T20:46:00.000+00:002007-01-18T20:46:00.000+00:00Wow a sensible post from Dale!Add to the wish list...Wow a sensible post from Dale!<BR/><BR/>Add to the wish list always-on audio feeds from both chambers plus select AND standing committee sessions. Some of us political anoraks have wifi radios don't you know.<BR/><BR/>Also, why not a red button on the sky/cable versions of the parliament channel so we choose which chamber we want to watch live. Most of this costs nothing or very little. Just inertia getting in the way. <BR/><BR/>Colin - IIRC it only costs about 80k to put a new station up on SKY. Would be nice to have some bbc political output unmediated by tory boys andrew neil and nick robinson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169150361962095062007-01-18T19:59:00.000+00:002007-01-18T19:59:00.000+00:00Here's a prediction, Iain.First, the Commons autho...Here's a prediction, Iain.<BR/><BR/>First, the Commons authorities will reject your (very good) ideas as "impractical." Then, in about two years' time, they'll implement them, by which time the technology will no doubt have moved on again.<BR/><BR/>At least you'll be able to say you thought of it first....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169148670200896942007-01-18T19:31:00.000+00:002007-01-18T19:31:00.000+00:00I don't dispute what you say but......Why not get ...I don't dispute what you say but...<BR/><BR/>...Why not get people in Parliament who actually represent their constituents - i.e. they reflect the views, experiences & background of the electorate rather than dictate, impose and force their will upon us.<BR/><BR/>Please don't pretend what we currently have (or have ever had) is representative.uk-eventshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17620710031075091084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169146976623948202007-01-18T19:02:00.000+00:002007-01-18T19:02:00.000+00:00It is breathtaking how slowly people at the top of...It is breathtaking how slowly people at the top of the political tree react to these kind of things. Do they have any idea how important the Internet is to the future of British politics? At least Cameron is making a tangible effort - good on him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169146236151104952007-01-18T18:50:00.000+00:002007-01-18T18:50:00.000+00:00Good idea, but per your comments on getting things...Good idea, but per your comments on getting things changed, well all I can say to you is Judy Scott Thomson ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1169146127072046412007-01-18T18:48:00.000+00:002007-01-18T18:48:00.000+00:00The British Embassy in Belgrade helped the Serbian...The British Embassy in Belgrade helped the Serbian Parliament to set up a live Internet feed back in 2001/02 as part of post-Milosevic democratization. Cheap, easy and effective even using the primitive technology of those distant times. Maybe we could politely ask some cyber-Serbs to advise us on how to make this work at Westminster?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com