tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post116328741001252220..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: How Could Labour Increase Its Majority?Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163610814941423442006-11-15T17:13:00.000+00:002006-11-15T17:13:00.000+00:00Bless you Mr Dale, I think its terribly naiive of ...Bless you Mr Dale, I think its terribly naiive of you to believe that the only way Labour will increase their majority is if David Cameron is found in bed with a sheep on the eve of polling.<BR/><BR/>Hilarious. Labour will hold and increase their majority because the Conservatives have no policies on anything remotely relevant and because Cameron the chameleon is a wet behind the ears cocaine snorting Old Etonian. Best of British and all that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163496592681603662006-11-14T09:29:00.000+00:002006-11-14T09:29:00.000+00:00It is quite cleary George Pascoe-Watson - he becam...It is quite cleary George Pascoe-Watson - he became Brown's sheep some time ago and is deluded enough to believe anything the Brown lovies through his wayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163442576027072752006-11-13T18:29:00.000+00:002006-11-13T18:29:00.000+00:00A bet on something very unlikely can still be wort...A bet on something very unlikely can still be worth it if you get good enough odds.Paul Leakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16006299773244556618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163425708329014402006-11-13T13:48:00.000+00:002006-11-13T13:48:00.000+00:00He feels this will of course depend a great deal o...<I>He feels this will of course depend a great deal on the initial impact Brown has as Prime Minister - though he knows one senior political editor who has taken a bet on Labour increasing its majority.</I><BR/><BR/>It could only be that witch Polly ToynbeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163423606731581522006-11-13T13:13:00.000+00:002006-11-13T13:13:00.000+00:00Sounds like you're on to something Charlotte, than...Sounds like you're on to something Charlotte, thanks for letting us know ! I read it the same as you. Fascinating to see if anyone picks up on it. I've always suspected bully Brown was bonkers, looks like we may get confirmation!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163421033718934292006-11-13T12:30:00.000+00:002006-11-13T12:30:00.000+00:00To suggest bestiality of David Cameron and a sheep...To suggest bestiality of David Cameron and a sheep is most alarming.<BR/><BR/>Why a sheep would want to be caught out with Cameron is beyond me.<BR/><BR/>I'd consider that to be illegal and depraved.<BR/><BR/>Doom.Dr.Doomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12693690337088689687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163418501086232742006-11-13T11:48:00.000+00:002006-11-13T11:48:00.000+00:00The ONLY way Labour can win the next election is b...The ONLY way Labour can win the next election is by massive election fraud. This kind of comment could be groundwork for just such fraud. If Labour "win" again, there will be fucking riots, you heed my words Brown.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163407950586303742006-11-13T08:52:00.000+00:002006-11-13T08:52:00.000+00:00I'm sorry if I've driven people out to buy the NoW...I'm sorry if I've driven people out to buy the NoW who now feel that they have been cheated with regard to the GB medical files story. It is only a short piece that appears at the bottom of Nelson's left hand column but it says: "We now know Downing Street lied over Tony Blair's heart condition but is Gordon Brown in tip-top shape? There is no way of separating Westminster rumours from reality..." It then calls for the PM to open his medical records to the public as the US President does.<BR/>Perhaps I'm reading too much into this but he seems to be hinting that there are rumours about Brown's health in circulation. I'm not saying the rumours are true; it could be a smear job from the Reid camp. I was just intrigued by the piece.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163400097500589622006-11-13T06:41:00.000+00:002006-11-13T06:41:00.000+00:00The next election is the one we need to win. It is...The next election is the one we need to win. It is fallacious to think that we need to "take" the Northern cities to win next time. It would be unprecedented if we made siginificants in Liv/Newc or Manc (those seats wouldn't go blue if we had 50% of the national vote). However, we do need to improve our appeal in the North. The perception of being the party of the Old Etonian or the K&C councillor isn't going to achieve this. We need to give some Northern Tories more airtime/encouragement.Praguetoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16520923731691837948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163382232991486452006-11-13T01:43:00.000+00:002006-11-13T01:43:00.000+00:00Prisoners have no human rights. They have offende...Prisoners have no human rights. They have offended against the human race and are temporarily shriven of their rights.<BR/><BR/>I must admit, permanently removing their "human" (loose usage of the word) rights would be best. The death penalty is used with great effect in other countries. The executed person, who committed the crime of his own volition, cannot commit another one, because of the death effect. <BR/><BR/>I cannot for the life of me see a fault in this.<BR/><BR/>'jailhouse lawyer': I discount your arguements because you don't know how to spell gaol. Comprehensive school?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163371253017323332006-11-12T22:40:00.000+00:002006-11-12T22:40:00.000+00:00Four actually.d) Allow convicted prisoners to exer...Four actually.<BR/><BR/>d) Allow convicted prisoners to exercise their human right to vote.<BR/><BR/>One small problem with this analysis, it is said that prisoners tend to be conservative with a small c.<BR/><BR/>If it meant you getting more votes, Iain, would you not support this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163370425185643522006-11-12T22:27:00.000+00:002006-11-12T22:27:00.000+00:00Me too Verity ! I now know more about the Britn...Me too Verity ! I now know more about the Britney K-Fed sex tape story than before , but nothing about Gordy's medical mystery supposedly alluded to by Fraser Nelson. Have to Google.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163365102946335042006-11-12T20:58:00.000+00:002006-11-12T20:58:00.000+00:00anonymous 6:57 - No one has elaborated and I was ...anonymous 6:57 - No one has elaborated and I was so intrigued I went to News of The Screws, but they didn't have any editorial content. It's all photos. Duh.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I don't think it's a "psychological flaw". Personally, and absolutely groundlessly, I have a feeling it's something to do with his ability to breed. Just a wild guess not based on anything. But I don't know that anything else would be "of interest to the British public".<BR/><BR/>Whatever, he is an absolutely repulsive person.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163357837578832462006-11-12T18:57:00.000+00:002006-11-12T18:57:00.000+00:00Peter from Putney : You're spot on, Gordon Brown i...Peter from Putney : You're spot on, Gordon Brown is very unpopular with the gp. Actually he seems to be detested, just conduct your very own focus group in the office/pub and you'll be amazed at the antipathy toward him you discover. Anyone elaborate on the piece in the news of the screws about Brown's medical records? Has he been treated for 'psychological flaws' to use Campbell's euphemism?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163357633421647242006-11-12T18:53:00.000+00:002006-11-12T18:53:00.000+00:00We've yet to see what effect UKIP will have under ...We've yet to see what effect UKIP will have under Farage. Could easily be enough to keep the party out of power once again. Got to admit they do talk sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163352949546913262006-11-12T17:35:00.000+00:002006-11-12T17:35:00.000+00:00For almost 4 years, Dutch Labour leader Bos was th...For almost 4 years, Dutch Labour leader Bos was the most popular politician in the country, enjoying leads in the polls that Cameron so far only can dream of. Just 4 months ago, the considered wisdom was that Prime Minister Balkenende was a dead duck, on his way to poltical oblivion. Now just 10 days from the General Election, polls show that Bos is the least popular of the party leaders and Balkenende seems on his way to his third consecutive GE victory. A lot can happen in politics in just a few months, how ever unlikely it may sometimes seem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163350550019988382006-11-12T16:55:00.000+00:002006-11-12T16:55:00.000+00:00Got to be Kevin Maguire who is tipped as Gordon's ...Got to be Kevin Maguire who is tipped as Gordon's Alistair Campbell.Def Con Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06288839039196678135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163350426475423872006-11-12T16:53:00.000+00:002006-11-12T16:53:00.000+00:00Some excellent, thoughtful analysis on this thread...Some excellent, thoughtful analysis on this thread! Thanks Druid and 2bro2b - and everyone else who had some good, meaty thoughts. Very interesting!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163349633448568032006-11-12T16:40:00.000+00:002006-11-12T16:40:00.000+00:00"Every few weeks I take a look at Jeffrey Archer's...<I>"Every few weeks I take a look at Jeffrey Archer's BLOG to see what he's been up to. It's rather good, actually."</I><BR/><BR/>Well, Iain, why wouldn't it be, after all he's sold tens of millions of books!<BR/>The thing that will do for Labour at the next GE is Gordon Brown.Whilst most Tories and near Tories have a gruding respect for Tony Blair, in my experience of such voters, almost to a man and woman, they detest Gordon Brown.Peter from Putneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04133613985279722397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163347786629270802006-11-12T16:09:00.000+00:002006-11-12T16:09:00.000+00:00Although unlikely, labour could increase it's majo...Although unlikely, labour could increase it's majority even if the tories increase their votes. Whilst it is true to say that a lot of lib dem seats are either lib dem / tory marginals, think of the last election: Manchester Withington, Leeds Northwest, Chesterfield, an additional seats around bristol etc. The number of Independents in England and wales. They start adding up. <BR/><BR/>Whilst it is unlikely it is not impossible for labour to increase it's majority while the tories seats plus vote go up.<BR/><BR/>Some tories moan about cameron not sticking to tory issues etc and they are right about his tough love and hoody speeches. I vote tory and am fucking well affended - Why? when i was 20: 3 hoodies kicked the shit out of me and pissed on my face late at night. Why? I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Believe me, if we had court the buggers and the police could not convict - we would have gone round with a blow torch and pliers and they would not have behaved in this way with some inocent victim again.<BR/><BR/>Going back to the subject: camerons pitch may scare some right wing tories off but what he needs to do is achieve a different distrubution of votes. That is what labour did in 1997 onwards and the liberal democrats have achieved. Without a realignment of votes the tories are at such a disadvantage they will go knowhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163346239283420692006-11-12T15:43:00.000+00:002006-11-12T15:43:00.000+00:00Nixon. . .Archer. . . with sources like this Iain ...Nixon. . .Archer. . . with sources like this Iain i do find it quite remarkable that you have not had greater electoral success!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163345407823609952006-11-12T15:30:00.000+00:002006-11-12T15:30:00.000+00:00Sophisticated psephological analysis is all very j...Sophisticated psephological analysis is all very jolly for us intellectuals (with nothing better to do on a Sunday afternoon)but after 40 years of tabloid journalism and comprehensive education the British electorate is so stupid that the UKIP is just as likely to draw votes from the LibDems, and the BNP to draw votes from Respect. It will probably be decided on dark wavey hair,a good suit and a nice tie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163345204015606112006-11-12T15:26:00.000+00:002006-11-12T15:26:00.000+00:00Archer's blog is so good that when you click on vi...Archer's blog is so good that when you click on view my profile up pops a blank sheet of paper...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163344804829352152006-11-12T15:20:00.000+00:002006-11-12T15:20:00.000+00:00d) UKIP or the BNP (particularly the former since ...d) UKIP or the BNP (particularly the former since the later is more working class) makes serious inroads into the Tory vote.<BR/>e) David Cameron comes out against new nuclear & the next year blackouts start.<BR/>f) Brown cuts corporation tax & the econmy takes off.<BR/>g) Peace in Iraq or at least UK withdrawel.<BR/>h) A pre-election deal with the Lib Dems on proportional representation.<BR/>i) Tory party split between bicyclists & old Tories.<BR/>j) Brown proves trustworthy & seriously intellectual.<BR/>k) Lib Dems split & half join Labour while the other half stay independent.<BR/>l) Brown offers a £1 billion X-Prize for a UK orbital shuttle & somebody wins.<BR/>m) Brown calls for us to quit the EU.<BR/><BR/>Granted none of these are anything but long odds options but there are a lot of them.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1163344524105105112006-11-12T15:15:00.000+00:002006-11-12T15:15:00.000+00:00Yes, James Highams. The Tories ignore that Camero...Yes, James Highams. The Tories ignore that Cameron is flatlining at their peril.<BR/><BR/>If they sacked him and put David Davis in as leader, there would be a surge of enthusiasm for the party.<BR/><BR/>NuLab would make hey with yet one more change in Tory leadership, but so what? They're leader's going to prison, so maybe they should have changed him quite some time ago.<BR/><BR/>The Tories would be enthused. At the moment, many Tories are contemplating a UKIP and even a BNP vote. (Of course, so are many Labour voters.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com