tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post114031474775987537..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Forty Per Cent of British Muslims Want Sharia LawIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140520261764737482006-02-21T11:11:00.000+00:002006-02-21T11:11:00.000+00:00I think the voices of sayeeda warsi need to be hea...I think the voices of sayeeda warsi need to be heard - she is great, cabinet materialAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140421906875189802006-02-20T07:51:00.000+00:002006-02-20T07:51:00.000+00:00Right on, be bopper!We live in a democracy (despit...Right on, be bopper!<BR/><BR/>We live in a democracy (despite Tony Baloney's best efforts) - nobody forced people to come and live here. I don't expect my son to learn American History at school or to have a day off for July 4thor Presidents' Day. While I'm glad for the variety we have here now which did not exist when I arrived here 23 years ago, I remember why I came here in the first place, love of British culture, British history and of course an Englishman!<BR/><BR/>Great Britain - love it or leave it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140406537454480012006-02-20T03:35:00.000+00:002006-02-20T03:35:00.000+00:00dp,it's worth mentioning too that not only do Musl...dp,<BR/>it's worth mentioning too that not only do Muslim women get half the legal entity of a Muslim man - but that that is the same as that of a Christian man, and twice as much as a Christian woman.<BR/>To put that into an example, if a Christian girl was raped in Pakistan - she would need 16 Christian women to witness it if she wasn't to be flogged etc for adultery.SamuelCoateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10837268975449830569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140393946231392032006-02-20T00:05:00.000+00:002006-02-20T00:05:00.000+00:00Lady Finchley reminded us of that infamous "Questi...Lady Finchley reminded us of that infamous "Question Time" after 9/11 when Muslims and lefties in the audience baited the American Ambassador, reducing him to tears. ( Hang your head in shame David Dimbleby)<BR/> I remember it well,but remember another chilling event, post 9/11 which tells us something about the Islamic problem. The following morning, in a school (I think in Southall) the children, (mostly of Pakistani origin) came into the playground cheering and punching the air in triumph. This was reported in the press by two members of the school staff.<BR/>Now, can you imagine the scene in local households the night before as the families watched endless recordings of the planes slamming into the Twin Towers?<BR/>I say, enough appeasment. We have to learn to live with these hypocrites, but we should be on our guard and not concede an inch of our way of life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140369137235449912006-02-19T17:12:00.000+00:002006-02-19T17:12:00.000+00:00A very disturbing development indeed.Any law which...A very disturbing development indeed.<BR/><BR/>Any law which is not subject to review, and which cannot be amended or repealed inspite of the wishes of a majority (and that includes Sharia Law) is a joke and has no business in the 21st century<BR/><BR/>No religion should ever be the source of law, and I say this as a practising Christian and someone who lived in a country where multiculturalism of all sorts, was a constant source of strife and still is, from <A HREF="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4728616.stm" REL="nofollow"> events that occurred earlier today. </A><BR/><BR/>@dp, <BR/>slaves never had any voting rights under the US constitution.<BR/>You're talking about the <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Fifths_Compromise" REL="nofollow"> Three-Fifths Compromise </A> which was meant to count slaves for voting purposes, but the voting was done by the slave holders.Biodunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16683085652044953165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140368299992519172006-02-19T16:58:00.000+00:002006-02-19T16:58:00.000+00:00It is happening in the uk our councils have to by ...It is happening in the uk our councils have to by law allow for sale of council stock to religious and ethnic minorities by means other than normal mortgages adding extra beurocracy and cost to majority of taxpayers to justify equality!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140357990011243662006-02-19T14:06:00.000+00:002006-02-19T14:06:00.000+00:00Iain, if we've got to the point where we think the...Iain, if we've got to the point where we think the likes of the MCB under Iqbal Sacranie and Inayat Bunglawala are moderate Muslims then we're in real trouble.<BR/><BR/>The truth is that even so called 'moderates' are happy to espouse homophobia, bigotry, intolerance and anti semitism (in the more contemparary anti Jewish sense as opposed to Semites) against other members of our society. When European newspapers in Christian countries publish cartoons offensive to Islam, the Holocaust is mentioned, and how offensive cartoons about that would be. Never mind the fact that neither Israels nor Jews had anything to do with the cartoons.<BR/><BR/>I blame the left in this country. When I was a student, at UEA as it happens, Norman Lamb came in to speak to students about the Iraq War. His line seemed to be that the war was for oil and because American politicians received backing from Jewish donors and pressure groups. The idea of a Jewish conspiracy lives on, with Muslims encouraged by the likes of Lamb and Jack Straw arguing that their faith holds some kind of special place in society, beyond reproach, criticism or insult. <BR/><BR/>While at University, I also happened to study Sharia Law as part of my degree. A woman has half the legal entity of a man, so her evidence counts for less (1/2 as it happens) at trial, and she is incapable of entering into contracts by herself, and needs a family patriarch to act on her behalf. Much like a minor in this country. So much for protecting womens rights.<BR/><BR/>DP.<BR/><BR/>http://mcbwatch.blogspot.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140354903083859762006-02-19T13:15:00.000+00:002006-02-19T13:15:00.000+00:00A majority of the British allegedly want capital p...A majority of the British allegedly want capital punishment reintroduced. I bet I could phrase a question for a poll that would get a majority in favour of locking up without trial anyone who looked a bit shifty.<BR/><BR/>You're right - this time between half terms (some last week, some next) is a quiet time for real news.....Hughes Viewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01192390547169979749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140352860097433772006-02-19T12:41:00.000+00:002006-02-19T12:41:00.000+00:00I enrolled in a University night class about Islam...I enrolled in a University night class about Islam mainly out of curiosity given its relevance to today's society. There were a handful of other white people there but the vast majority were young Muslim females. Anecdotally from them, I got the impression that they were completely cut off from Islam, so much so that they had to enroll in a University course to learn about it. They all seemed pious and interested in Islam, but didn't feel comfortable (or were dissuaded from) asking their elders' advice regarding their faith. They viewed with some bemusement the mind-set of young Muslim males and anathema to their thinking and interpretation of Islam. The general consensus was that Muslim males (and they are all mostly males, let's not forget that) of that mind-set were too far down the road and unlikely to be converted into a more moderate line of thinking. The tutor of the course (himself a Muslim) related to us many interesting tales about how he personally had been dissuaded from teaching the evening class by certain Mosque 'heavyweights'. <BR/><BR/>Mr Dale, in your post you say we should "ensure that moderate muslim community representatives make their voices heard". The impression I got talking to female Muslims is that this would be like pissing in the wind (excuse my French). The ink is dry in these young men's minds. The so-called moderates are ignored and not respected. It would be like getting someone from CND to appeal to the Pentagon to give away 15% of the US defence budget to charity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140347888290951172006-02-19T11:18:00.000+00:002006-02-19T11:18:00.000+00:00If we're not careful there WILL be Sharia law in B...If we're not careful there WILL be Sharia law in Britain in a very few years. The lunatics have truly taken over the asylum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140343143621618052006-02-19T09:59:00.000+00:002006-02-19T09:59:00.000+00:00For the sake of good order, a quote from the Teleg...For the sake of good order, a quote from the Telegraph article on the poll...<BR/><BR/>"Forty per cent of the British Muslims surveyed said they backed introducing sharia in parts of Britain, while 41 per cent opposed it"<BR/><BR/>So slightly more oppose it than back it.<BR/><BR/>I wonder how many of those that back sharia actually realise what it would mean?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140340597009977302006-02-19T09:16:00.000+00:002006-02-19T09:16:00.000+00:00Bravo to you Iain, for having the cojones to raise...Bravo to you Iain, for having the cojones to raise the issue. This, is something I have suspected since that dreadful Question Time right after 9/11. There was not only tacit approval, but excuses, and some absolute glee from a good number of the Muslims in the audience. I was chilled to the bone.<BR/><BR/>I will never understand why people emigrate if they are not going to assimilate unless of course the idea is to impose their views on the host country, little by little. What a chilling thought.<BR/><BR/>I am the granddaughter of Italian immigrants, all of whom brought and shared their culture by opening several Italian restaurants and imparting the love of Italian art and music to us. We were proud of our Italian heritage but even prouder to be Americans. The happiest day of my grandfather's life was when he became an American citizen. And, in World War II, all my uncles joined the US army, fighting against Germany, Japan and Italy. No second thoughts, no questions. If you cannot have this kind of committment and loyalty to your country then you have to seriously consider why you have come. <BR/><BR/>By the way, Italians are constantly characterised as mobsters and other goombahs in the media. There is an Italian Anti-Defamation League in the States and while I remember loads of peaceful protests, I can't for the life of me, ever remember one threatening death or 'an offer you can't refuse'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1140317291632240952006-02-19T02:48:00.000+00:002006-02-19T02:48:00.000+00:00The figures in this poll are indeed terrifying, bu...The figures in this poll are indeed terrifying, but to me not that surprising.The Pakistani audit manager of the leading firm of Chartered Accountants which conducts our Company's annual audit, very much appears to share such views, despite having lived in the UK for over 12 years,qualified here and in all outward appearance and general attitude otherwise appears to be fully westernised. If he thinks this way,then one must assume that the millions of other,less educated and more insular Moslems feel likewise.Since the birth rate in their families is probably at least double that of the Christian population, not to mention the countless "illegals" still pouring into this country, one can only imagine the civil strife that lies ahead in 20 - 30 years' time or less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com