tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post1068359066224821679..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: SmearGate: One Down, Two to GoIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger71125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-17707623831369335772009-04-12T21:16:00.000+01:002009-04-12T21:16:00.000+01:00The whole Labour gang need kicking out of governme...The whole Labour gang need kicking out of government and soon; every day they stay in power puts the Country even further into the mire of sleaze, bad Government and incompetence. This latest story will involve more than McBride, Draper and Watson. There are links further up the food-chain but the proof may be hard to find.Not a sheephttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14123293202225008273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63027263365479642042009-04-12T13:00:00.000+01:002009-04-12T13:00:00.000+01:00"Draper is bringing the Labour Party into disreput..."Draper is bringing the Labour Party into disrepute and needs to be disowned."<BR/><BR/>I think the removal should start at the top, you have all lost the plot, and why when all this is happening has GB gone to ground!! <BR/><BR/>Planning his big speech on monday to the queen "yes i know we are a bunch of lying..... Yes I think its best to dissolve parliament"<BR/><BR/>joolzRenata and Julianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05092318241925963578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-38413011880213553102009-04-11T20:56:00.000+01:002009-04-11T20:56:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-16039053890023391022009-04-11T20:51:00.000+01:002009-04-11T20:51:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44542138549586126432009-04-11T20:49:00.000+01:002009-04-11T20:49:00.000+01:00@ David BoothroydPrecisely. So it's clear you bel...@ David Boothroyd<BR/><BR/>Precisely. So it's clear you believe that because something is 'legal' it is 'moral'.<BR/><BR/>Clasic NuLab thinking.Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-67596607353105543892009-04-11T20:45:00.001+01:002009-04-11T20:45:00.001+01:00@ Simon Gardner"...I haven’t a clue what all this ...@ Simon Gardner<BR/><BR/>"...I haven’t a clue what all this silliness is about."<BR/><BR/>Indeed, and so much more besides.Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-78861073429575005962009-04-11T20:45:00.000+01:002009-04-11T20:45:00.000+01:00Perhaps you are unaware, Unsworth, but during the ...Perhaps you are unaware, Unsworth, but during the Shirley Porter scandal in Westminster, a whole series of councillors were initially surcharged on the grounds that they had been at key meetings and had not spoken out against it.<BR/><BR/>They appealed and won, overturning their surcharges. What's sauce for the goose, and all that.David Boothroydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01161970886471901426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-32066184699914784502009-04-11T20:40:00.000+01:002009-04-11T20:40:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-29074658576442454542009-04-11T20:38:00.000+01:002009-04-11T20:38:00.000+01:00@ JimmyIf you're 'bored' with this why not bugger ...@ Jimmy<BR/><BR/>If you're 'bored' with this why not bugger off and 'entertain' yourself elsewhere?Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-16727586283220333362009-04-11T20:35:00.000+01:002009-04-11T20:35:00.000+01:00@ David Boothroyd"If all Tom Watson is accused of ...@ David Boothroyd<BR/><BR/><I>"If all Tom Watson is accused of is being included among the recipients of an email, then there really isn't a case for him to answer".</I> So as long as no 'rules' were broken that's OK, then.<BR/><BR/>Moral equivocation yet again. So it's OK to 'receive' such material without making comment or taking action to stop such behaviour? No doubt this is the standard of integrity which you model your own upon. <BR/><BR/>What was that about the 'triumph of evil'?<BR/><BR/>It wasnae me....<BR/><BR/><BR/>Clown.Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-58746434925532867042009-04-11T20:28:00.000+01:002009-04-11T20:28:00.000+01:00@ Paul Halsall"Nadine looked dotty on BBC News at ...@ Paul Halsall<BR/><BR/><I>"Nadine looked dotty on BBC News at 6pm."</I><BR/>You don't look too clever yourself, but so bleeding what? Do you have anything to say about her views?<BR/><BR/><I>"The BBC has just stated the Paul Staines libelled Peter Hain in an earlier interview.....".</I><BR/>Is the BBC some sort of legal authority?<BR/><BR/><I>"The BBC.....has stated Peter Hain's view."</I><BR/>No change there, then. Once again the BBC acts as Hain's spokesperson.Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88277119425901116342009-04-11T19:51:00.000+01:002009-04-11T19:51:00.000+01:00Gordon Brown is the Minister for the Civil Service...Gordon Brown is the Minister for the Civil Service; Tom Watson is Parliamentary Secretary to the Cabinet Office - a minor correction to the titles. <BR/><BR/>If all Tom Watson is accused of is being included among the recipients of an email, then there really isn't a case for him to answer. Or otherwise we're all implicated in a lot of Nigerian 419 scams.David Boothroydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01161970886471901426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-52581256452514494512009-04-11T19:26:00.000+01:002009-04-11T19:26:00.000+01:00Old Holborn @6:17pmMethinks you owe me a hat tip.....Old Holborn @6:17pm<BR/><BR/>Methinks you owe me a hat tip...Colinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16949877777934292635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87233586945739705582009-04-11T19:24:00.000+01:002009-04-11T19:24:00.000+01:00"Can one eat popcorn for breakfast?"Nah. Schadenfr...<I>"Can one eat popcorn for breakfast?"</I><BR/><BR/>Nah. Schadenfreud. <I>That's</I> what's for breakfast... ;)JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72956941439487092762009-04-11T19:22:00.000+01:002009-04-11T19:22:00.000+01:00Simply not possible that Brown didn't set the goal...Simply not possible that Brown didn't set the goals. I can imagine he said "we have to increase our web presence, or we have to reduce the right wing presence. I can also imagine he hasbeen told of the good, bad and ugly of Iain and said he wants it to be publicized. I can imagine that he is personally hurt by being called bonkers. I imagine he is aware that Paul is the source of the bonkers and troughing Menes. I can imagine he wants take Paul down. I can imagine he is aware that pails blog is read mostlby MPs, oxbridge, the city, lawyers, auditors and the professionalclasses. <BR/><BR/>I imagine Brown is aware that the Internet will be the key media battle ground. I imagine he knows he has no troops to fight that battle, that his flanks are exposed, that the Internet intelligensia cheer on Paul and will dominate arguments. I imagine he knows that when he sees Ali Campbell shot downby hundreds of comments on labour home by both left and right wing profferionals that the days of spin are drawing to a close. <BR/><BR/> On the Internet bloggers post the space of possible arguments and commenters effectively vote for them. Blogging is a democracy of ideas. Brown knows this. Brown knows that the heads of a party cannot match the heads of the commentors at finding thebest ideas. Not only is spinning a dying art but so is setting the agenda. The idea that politicians use the Internet to put ideas to the masses seems purile. The masses on the internet are now forming their opinions better that the politiciansjavelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04685858339910528013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1537648168634686902009-04-11T19:21:00.000+01:002009-04-11T19:21:00.000+01:00Old Holborn et al:If you'd like the domain name:ww...Old Holborn et al:<BR/><BR/><BR/>If you'd like the domain name:<BR/><BR/>www.comparethesmeartwats.com<BR/><BR/>let me know... :)Colinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16949877777934292635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-34630493997460298222009-04-11T19:20:00.000+01:002009-04-11T19:20:00.000+01:00*sssshhhhh*If you listen really carefully, you can...*sssshhhhh*<BR/><BR/>If you listen really carefully, you can actually hear Derek Draper's career falling apart.<BR/><BR/>Don't hold back, Iain - you have every right to get an answer to every question you have floating around your mind on this matter.Letters From A Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14612766550608940053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-21978741897046017022009-04-11T19:14:00.000+01:002009-04-11T19:14:00.000+01:00News of the World start the balling rolling<A HREF="http://plato-says.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">News of the World start the balling rolling</A>Platohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07416276749202589235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-45549392872438885992009-04-11T19:07:00.000+01:002009-04-11T19:07:00.000+01:00Tom Watson is Minister for the Civil Service. What...Tom Watson is Minister for the Civil Service. What did he do when he found about these emails? Did he berate Damian McBride and tell him to stop abusing his position? No. Instead, he either tacitly or overtly encouraged McBride to send more.<BR/><BR/>Very good point. Let’s see if Mr Watson thinks his position is tenable after the emails are published in the NOTW and Nadine’s lawyers decided whether there is a case to be answeredAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76026361867704589562009-04-11T19:05:00.000+01:002009-04-11T19:05:00.000+01:00"He's not some Labour Party hack.". That's the who..."He's not some Labour Party hack.". <BR/><BR/>That's the whole prblem, they are first and foremost Labour hacks. Sod the rest of the country.Oldrightiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03192587284458430556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-58403455399517745162009-04-11T18:59:00.000+01:002009-04-11T18:59:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-31298198988500804302009-04-11T18:55:00.001+01:002009-04-11T18:55:00.001+01:00Jimmy said... “Has it finally come to pass that th...Jimmy said... <I>“Has it finally come to pass that the mainstream media has started taking bloggers as seriously as they take themselves? I'm i the only one bored rigid by the whole Draper/Staines handbag fight?”</I><BR/><BR/>I ****** hope not and <B>NO</B>. I’m happy to say I haven’t a clue what all this silliness is about.Simon Gardnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17189501697856123305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54701947473062768402009-04-11T18:55:00.000+01:002009-04-11T18:55:00.000+01:00Can't you just block he who must not be named, Iai...Can't you just block he who must not be named, Iain?<BR/><BR/>Report him!Jon Lishmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07272058035800593800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-8489127413078813412009-04-11T18:53:00.001+01:002009-04-11T18:53:00.001+01:00Good article by ID on the DT's website.http://www....Good article by ID on the DT's website.<BR/><BR/>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/iaindale/5141376/Political-blogs-thrown-centre-stage-by-email-smear-row.html<BR/><BR/>The hideous, incoherent squirming all over the news from the Downing street Brown-protection machine and the usual labour rentaquotes stands in start contrast to it.Jon Lishmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07272058035800593800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-61232934054562273452009-04-11T18:53:00.000+01:002009-04-11T18:53:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13292436411579226284noreply@blogger.com