tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post100690953205212532..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Who's the 'Logical' Next Speaker?Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger94125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-45447029255393470362009-06-15T13:13:43.402+01:002009-06-15T13:13:43.402+01:00Old Etonian PM, London Mayor and Speaker?
When w...Old Etonian PM, London Mayor and Speaker? <br /><br />When was Alan Johnson at Eton?Atticus Finchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12070313665724500386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4865014737405412602009-06-14T15:03:47.745+01:002009-06-14T15:03:47.745+01:00Faceless bureaucrat 10:43 - the only reason Alan H...Faceless bureaucrat 10:43 - the only reason Alan Haselhurst has a clean pair of hands is that he paid someone else to do his garden!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-34564702095018849302009-06-12T22:57:52.423+01:002009-06-12T22:57:52.423+01:00'Logical' being the operative word.'Logical' being the operative word.Stephen Gashnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1198203326629104602009-06-12T22:24:59.586+01:002009-06-12T22:24:59.586+01:00Betty Boothroyd could control the chamber but was ...Betty Boothroyd could control the chamber but was in other respects a reactionary Speaker as was Gearge Thomas. Weatherill was far more effective and less of a media Speaker. If we are to have a reforming Speaker then Richard Shepherd would be the best candidate as he has the respect of both sides and has never been afraid of the executive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-5258545200939159712009-06-12T17:32:06.998+01:002009-06-12T17:32:06.998+01:00I am a Conservative member and my first chioce wou...I am a Conservative member and my first chioce would be Margaret Beckett, second choice Frank Field and third choice Anne Widdecombe until the next General Election. Last choice would be my own MP, John Bercow. But then I am making my choices in terms of what would be best for Parliament, democracy and the country. It seems that most MPs will not be using such criteria, instead making their selection on who would upset the opposition the most. It is unbelievable that the next Speaker could be selected on childish spite. It seems the current MPs continue to learn nothing from previous mistakes. Fool them, come the next election when half of them could lose their seats. The public will have the final say. MPs should bear this in mind when they make their selection.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-64189669710798493502009-06-12T11:13:28.279+01:002009-06-12T11:13:28.279+01:00Nasty disrespectful bullies such as Gordon Ramsay,...Nasty disrespectful bullies such as Gordon Ramsay, Alan Sugar (who thinks it's OK to lie on ones CV), Gordon Brown (who thinks it's OK to destroy ones closest friends and colleagues) and the likes of the two cowardly anonymous commentators quoted here below are good examples of why Widdy is needed. Her voice would be an asset in the snakepit of Westminster. <br /><br />At June 12, 2009 9:59 AM , Dimoto said...<br />Oh, and Widdecombe (my MP) is a very rum old bird indeed<br /><br />At June 12, 2009 10:17 AM , Macha Maguire said...<br />Anne Widdecombe is bonkers....she's insaneIngrid J. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08451813216666237295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-3504370471767235572009-06-12T10:17:01.964+01:002009-06-12T10:17:01.964+01:00Anne Widdecombe is bonkers.... this is the woman w...Anne Widdecombe is bonkers.... this is the woman who left the Cof E because they were threatening to... gasp... ordinate women. <br /><br />she's insane and has no grasp of the kinds of things that would be needed for true modernisation of Parliament. <br /><br />her only possible asset is that she'd be there for less than a year. Is that good enough?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03236283426113684923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-59754251398386729322009-06-12T09:59:38.483+01:002009-06-12T09:59:38.483+01:00Oh, and Widdecombe (my MP) is a non-starter. Very ...Oh, and Widdecombe (my MP) is a non-starter. Very rum old bird indeed, with her neo-Opus Dei ideology. She loves the sound of her own voice, and the speaker proportion of Commons time would sky-rocket - just what we don't need. <br />And that voice would empty the Commons faster than a speech by Simon Hughes.Dimotonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-91229797751692010342009-06-12T09:50:13.367+01:002009-06-12T09:50:13.367+01:00Wow, Iain, that piece of dialectic is worthy of Br...Wow, Iain, that piece of dialectic is worthy of Brezhnev at his peak !!<br /><br />Reform of house procedures is far too important to be left to the speaker (Margaret Becket is obviously being put up to "steer" the Brownster's/Mandelson's would-be reforms).<br /><br />Alan Beith would get my vote, we need a competent, workmanlike speaker - not any kind of showman or prima-donna.<br />The only (trivial) thing against Beith is that he's another bloody Scot ! As Sam Pepys/Sir W. Batten might have said: "By God, I think the devil shits Scotsmen !"Dimotonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-86667055652148603892009-06-12T08:45:25.414+01:002009-06-12T08:45:25.414+01:00Definately Frank Field.Definately Frank Field.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-49032060077577367762009-06-12T01:55:56.820+01:002009-06-12T01:55:56.820+01:00Cancel my last - I just re-read Tom Harris's p...Cancel my last - I just re-read Tom Harris's post and realised the future has already arrived.Simon Toonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44294188963370327632009-06-12T01:51:42.350+01:002009-06-12T01:51:42.350+01:00The idea of a temporary Speaker seems wrong. Howe...The idea of a temporary Speaker seems wrong. However, one suggested reform is that in future the Speaker would be elected by secret ballot of MPs. If that reform is brought in, it would be quite proper for the then Speaker to stand down and for the next Speaker to be chosen by secret ballot. <br /><br />If that happened, should the then outgoing Speaker stand for re-election? How would it affect the office of Speaker if the then Speaker stood for re-election but failed to be re-elected?Simon Toonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54188479722853338172009-06-11T22:52:44.784+01:002009-06-11T22:52:44.784+01:00Bercow has got my support as a Conservative. He is...Bercow has got my support as a Conservative. He is principled, stands up forn Parliament and independent minded - just what we want from the Speaker. We dont want a third Labour Speaker and I dont want another Toff like Sir George Young/Haslehurst/Cormack.<br /><br />Go John.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-37169526683712771762009-06-11T22:21:07.931+01:002009-06-11T22:21:07.931+01:00Personally, I think you're underestimating the...Personally, I think you're underestimating the Labour MP here. The idea of a third Labour speaker on the trot(:o])won't bother them in the slightest if it gives the slightest edge over the next few months.<br />I'd go for the bloke I've never heard of with the funny name that I can't be bothered to cut & paste in. Ticks all the boxes. Loyal to the Party so won't make it awkward for the snotgobbler & there's the 'first ethnic speaker' crap that'll be good telly newsfodder. Shades of Obamarama & no-one'll dare suggest he's biased. The minority card'll outplay Gorbal's class card in trumps.<br />Beckett? Looks like a corpse in a frock. Bad enough on the benches behind. Having to look at her all day'd turn the stomach.*<br /><br />*On which note who was the peroxide blonde bowling Broon an easy one at PMQs? Sure she used to work round the back of the Cross before the redevelopment. Stood in the shadows a lot. Specialised in the partially sighted.but why not widders?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-77555192165296486972009-06-11T21:58:03.717+01:002009-06-11T21:58:03.717+01:00Jimmy said...
"By convention the Speaker is ...Jimmy said...<br /><br />"By convention the Speaker is obliged to vote with the government, which pretty much rules out Field."<br /><br />That means the Speaker must be Lib Dem until the new government forms after the general election: no one else would vote for Labour and we must return to the ethical convention of alternation. That way, we can have a Conservative Speaker after the election.Auntie Flo'noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-90029631187971595492009-06-11T19:51:54.060+01:002009-06-11T19:51:54.060+01:00On second thoughts, I regret posting anonymously. ...On second thoughts, I regret posting anonymously. VOTE FOR WIDDY @7:07 PM was my comment. Here's another thought. Alan Johnson is popular because he is a good chap. We have too many bad eggs in the public eye. Appointing Widdy as Speaker would send an inspirational message to youngsters that plain speaking good eggs can get to the top.Ingrid J. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08451813216666237295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2125545711274102632009-06-11T19:51:30.386+01:002009-06-11T19:51:30.386+01:00Parmjit dhanda is just looking for some job securi...Parmjit dhanda is just looking for some job security. A labour yes man, worried about losing his seat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-45858914153391642552009-06-11T19:13:43.544+01:002009-06-11T19:13:43.544+01:00Violet 10.06: Who is Patrick McCormack?
Jimmy 6.1...Violet 10.06: Who is Patrick McCormack?<br /><br />Jimmy 6.15: The Speaker by convention does not always vote with the Government. The Speaker's casting vote is determined in part by which stage the proceedings have reached which can result in the vote being cast against the Government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-55702325773146118072009-06-11T19:07:54.130+01:002009-06-11T19:07:54.130+01:00Who's that deputy speaker..the oul lady with t...Who's that deputy speaker..the oul lady with the grey hair. She's quite good.<br />Give the job to her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-3158089584102070082009-06-11T19:07:45.600+01:002009-06-11T19:07:45.600+01:00Ann Widdecombe deserves the job as Speaker. The g...Ann Widdecombe deserves the job as Speaker. The general public would welcome and trust her because she has proved herself to be decent, honest, fairminded, hard working, courageous, says what she thinks and has a sense of humour. England needs some genuinely nice kind honest decent trustworthy people in charge for a change. Widdy gets my vote (I'm not Tory).VOTE FOR WIDDYnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40258967161554798552009-06-11T18:59:18.152+01:002009-06-11T18:59:18.152+01:00As sympathetic as I was to your original point tha...As sympathetic as I was to your original point that we shouldn't have an interim Speaker, I have finally come to the conclusion that there is only one candidate on that list who has the necessary stature (not only with parliament but also with the general public) and, crucially, has completely avoided getting her neck into the expense scandal - and that's Ann Widdecombe. After the election we can have someone from the Labour side. (Isn't it funny how the Tories are so much better at choosing their Speakers...)Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15252054403352395221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-74844342433072217492009-06-11T18:15:07.823+01:002009-06-11T18:15:07.823+01:00By convention the Speaker is obliged to vote with ...By convention the Speaker is obliged to vote with the government, which pretty much rules out Field.Jimmyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01542633492362670045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-25710510807716579002009-06-11T17:28:57.266+01:002009-06-11T17:28:57.266+01:00Good job its an Alternative Vote rather than FPTP ...Good job its an Alternative Vote rather than FPTP election isn't it?<br /><br />But then whatever parliamentarians who get in on FPTP say about how wonderful that system is when it comes to elections where they are the electorate rather than the beneficiaries they always go for something else.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63851956092793325342009-06-11T15:58:21.649+01:002009-06-11T15:58:21.649+01:00Ann Widdecombe go for it girlAnn Widdecombe go for it girlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-27778326292343514312009-06-11T15:31:04.441+01:002009-06-11T15:31:04.441+01:00"Criteria" is a plural.
so you are eit..."Criteria" is a plural. <br /><br />so you are either using 'this criterion' or 'these criteria'Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03236283426113684923noreply@blogger.com