tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post9116846397779019137..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: The Return of Sound Money & Clear Blue WaterIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-79130459567260530292008-11-19T09:27:00.000+00:002008-11-19T09:27:00.000+00:00Dying to see what they will cut (as will Labour) -...Dying to see what they will cut (as will Labour) - finally game on! Still not convinced that this fabled waste saving will amount to much.Blackacrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15808024417861534968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-59162541930384254422008-11-19T07:29:00.000+00:002008-11-19T07:29:00.000+00:00I just hope that the Tories are ready and prepared...I just hope that the Tories are ready and prepared for the venomous full scale attak that Mandelson & Campbell will launch picturing the Tories as uncaring and ready to slash public sector budgets, because if Cameron et al are not ready for that then they will get slaughtered.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-6237513580867435462008-11-19T01:30:00.000+00:002008-11-19T01:30:00.000+00:00Too LittleToo LateToo Bad..........Too Little<BR/>Too Late<BR/>Too Bad..........Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-83183731847936743372008-11-19T00:54:00.000+00:002008-11-19T00:54:00.000+00:00The Tories idea of sound money:http://bloggers4uki...The Tories idea of sound money:<BR/><BR/>http://bloggers4ukip.blogspot.com/2008/11/join-us-today.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-51663740327619251572008-11-18T19:29:00.000+00:002008-11-18T19:29:00.000+00:00Iain every Conservative govt since the war has als...Iain every Conservative govt since the war has also presided over a financial crisis. 1956, 1964 (which Maudling thought he would leave for Labour to sort out), 1973 and 1992. And whilst 1956 can be tied with Suez, and the dangers in 64 were not too apparent, the rest you could argue tied in with the Conservatives being voted out of office.Paul Burginhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06718135185726733792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-75002987365132493572008-11-18T17:13:00.000+00:002008-11-18T17:13:00.000+00:00I am sympathetic to Bryan's thoughts on Ronald Rea...I am sympathetic to Bryan's thoughts on Ronald Reagan. <BR/><BR/>I dislike secularists, and am a social conservative, but think that libertarianism is preferable to authoritarianism. <BR/><BR/>And being openly Republican won't win any votes. Not in the US these days, and certainly not in the UK.evil ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15132875152764218702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-83896176213490840342008-11-18T15:24:00.000+00:002008-11-18T15:24:00.000+00:00David Cameron is a CON. We need REAL Conservatives...David Cameron is a CON. We need REAL Conservatives Principles. The Conservative Party have been taking over by a bunch of Secular Liberals who are ruining the party. We need to follow the Republican Party by kicking out the Libertarians and Liberals, and Focusing on the Religious Right and Social Conservatives.We need to follow people like Ronald Reagan, Mike Huckabee, Sarah Palin,etc. Conservative Party is DEAD, we need a Republican Conservative Party here in the U.K AS WELL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-717073182791122412008-11-18T14:54:00.000+00:002008-11-18T14:54:00.000+00:00North Briton Hunterblah, blah, blah - funny in the...North Briton Hunter<BR/><BR/>blah, blah, blah - funny in the aftermath of Black Wednesday the, then, opposition had nothing at all to say, mainly because they were fully signed up to ERM as much as the Tories. Since you Labour trolls are so fond of harping back to 1992 then why exactly do the opposition have to spell out their solution to everything today, when 16 years ago it was hunky dory for your lot to sit on their hands and keep their mouths firmly shut?? <BR/><BR/>Meanwhile Brown's plan for this crisis is save your own neck at any cost and bugger the damage it will cost to the rest of us.Mulliganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12445624135697167219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-34926908827841066142008-11-18T14:50:00.000+00:002008-11-18T14:50:00.000+00:00Recently you posted about the anti-democratic prop...Recently you posted about the anti-democratic proposal put forward in Cardiff that Welsh politicians should be replaced by a random selection of celebs. <BR/><BR/>Another giant step's now been made in Labour's march towards the disenfranchisement of voters - the unelected Blair is now going to start meddling in world's economic affairs. He'll no doubt be joined the unelected Brown and the unelected Mandelson. <BR/>Where are Muslim bombers when we need them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44219253221931677992008-11-18T14:49:00.000+00:002008-11-18T14:49:00.000+00:00Iain - you can 'have your cake and eat it'.What yo...Iain - you can 'have your cake and eat it'.<BR/><BR/>What you can't do is 'have your cake, eat it, and still have your cake'. This what I think you meant anyway!<BR/><BR/>Why does tempting chavs to buy Chinese-made goods in our shops in any way help us our of this slump?? It is a darned good way of wasting Foreign exchange, does Brown really want a collapse of Sterling that much?.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-17151916166051299472008-11-18T14:21:00.000+00:002008-11-18T14:21:00.000+00:00A good first move. If he can somehow stop being an...A good first move. If he can somehow stop being an upperclass ponce I just might vote for him! <BR/>PS When will he come out definitively on Europe and immigration?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-25794617463128305812008-11-18T14:14:00.000+00:002008-11-18T14:14:00.000+00:00Well done David C. However, I'm sick of the Beeb m...Well done David C. However, I'm sick of the Beeb making the Tories the story. It's the Government who should be under scrutiny, not the Opposition. On the World at One, Martha Kearney said people were looking to the Tories for leadership. How about looking to our useless govt first!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57347906496999158042008-11-18T14:13:00.000+00:002008-11-18T14:13:00.000+00:00Ok lets say this clear blue route would lead to 2 ...Ok lets say this clear blue route would lead to 2 million more than following the current Brown stategy .<BR/> I can recall a little while after the 2005 GE debating economic policy with Conservatives on blogs and a good number of them argued that their party should pursue neocon Reaganesque unfunded tax cuts stating that they would " pay for themselves " .<BR/> Now we have Brown adopting these ( without saying they will pay for themselves ) . Conservatives ( some of whom were arguing the exact opposite a couple of years ago - You know who you are ) have turned themselves inside out and are now saying this policy is not prudent .<BR/> Let's just face it the Conservatives and Osborne/Cameron in particular have no clue whatsoever as to the correct policy to adopt to improve UK's economic position and have fallen back into opposing the government's proposals whatever they are .Mark Seniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06482009878893889107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-41137571816616664002008-11-18T14:12:00.000+00:002008-11-18T14:12:00.000+00:00Well said Iain.Low tax, lots of good honest privat...Well said Iain.<BR/><BR/>Low tax, lots of good honest private-sector jobs, high personal savings, strong stable pound, low public debt or ideally a surplus. That's what we want!<BR/><BR/>Labour is taking us in the opposite direction to this. I don't even think they want this type of society. They'd actually rather we were all instruments of the state, pushing pens in town halls, paying whopping tax rates and being told what to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-60366993275952171872008-11-18T14:11:00.000+00:002008-11-18T14:11:00.000+00:00Latest poll Mori Tory lead down to 3% Goodbye Geor...Latest poll Mori Tory lead down to 3% <BR/><BR/>Goodbye George?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-70945868594359225122008-11-18T14:10:00.000+00:002008-11-18T14:10:00.000+00:00The problem with this is that Cameron has an unpop...The problem with this is that Cameron has an unpopular message of "the government can't do anything to help". <BR/><BR/>And John Major won in 1992 despite the recession of the early 1990s. <BR/><BR/>How about a return to supply-side economics.evil ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15132875152764218702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-27361569136508226542008-11-18T14:09:00.000+00:002008-11-18T14:09:00.000+00:00This sounds like the start of an intelligent Tory ...This sounds like the start of an intelligent Tory response though we need to see the detail. Liebour will present this as "Tory Cuts" but the electorate will see through that.<BR/><BR/>We are all heartily fed up with the spin and falsehoods of Gordy, Mandy, Mr Smiley, Ally et al. We need a new approach. The Nu Liebour project has been shown up for what it always was. A world of endless jam and honey, of never ending credit. It was never more than a utopia. None of the Liebour lot have ever had a real job in their life. What do they know about running a business? Well, we have the answer now. Nothing!<BR/><BR/>When you run a business the buck stops with you. Blaming it all on the Yanks as the Big Girls Blouse has done is not just wrong, it is pathetic. Much of our problems were made in the UK under the stewardship of Brown and Blair.<BR/><BR/>Zapatero, another economic incompetent, and cradle to grave politico, is blaming it all on the Americans. Oh yeah! Was Mr Bush responsible for the endemic corruption in Town Halls, the brown paper envelopes exchanged for building permits, poor productivity, kafkaesque bureaucracy, inflexible labour laws and monstrous waste? Of course he was not. These were all made in Spain.<BR/><BR/>Brown, like Zapatero, is incapable of recognizing his errors. Sadly for him the electorate is not so stupid.<BR/><BR/>If an individual is up to his ears in debt, more debt is not the solution. It's exactly the same for a country. You have to cut your cloth. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying. When times are hard you tighten your belt, take the knocks and wait for better days. There is no magic cure.<BR/><BR/>Under Blair and Brown the UK has become a place where too many claim rights but absolve themselves of responsibility. Brown's response to the mess we are in mirrors this. He is living in a fantasy world where the parcel keeps on getting passed, the music never stops and excessive borrowing is prudent!<BR/><BR/>It's time to go Gordy!!!!!!!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-56698478624590489402008-11-18T14:08:00.000+00:002008-11-18T14:08:00.000+00:00For Chris Paul, someone one on Guido is casting as...For Chris Paul, someone one on Guido is casting aspertions that you are an unemployed scrounger. On this more sensible site would you care to put your side of the story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-27923250786537962592008-11-18T14:06:00.000+00:002008-11-18T14:06:00.000+00:00Guess what: we are already making our 'Tories = cu...Guess what: we are already making our 'Tories = cuts' placards and will be waving them at every passing Tory PPC from now til polling day. Cameron has given us a pre-Christmas gift.<BR/>and btw, tomorrow's IPSOS Mori poll has the Tories on 40, Labour on 37.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-77192425643599624012008-11-18T14:05:00.000+00:002008-11-18T14:05:00.000+00:00"This speech signals the return of clear blue wate..."This speech signals the return of clear blue water between the Conservatives and the Labour Party. "<BR/><BR/>Oh well, as long as there is clear blue water. Who cares about actually winning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44860363272623250712008-11-18T13:59:00.000+00:002008-11-18T13:59:00.000+00:00Who do you trust more on the economy? Vote at the ...Who do you trust more on the economy? Vote at the Guardian's poll:<BR/><BR/>http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/poll/2008/nov/18/davidcameron-gordonbrown?commentpage=1&commentposted=1<BR/><BR/>For some reason Brown is currently in the lead. Get voting!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-75436810293196181012008-11-18T13:56:00.000+00:002008-11-18T13:56:00.000+00:00By the latest Mori opinion poll it looks like the ...By the latest Mori opinion poll it looks like the public think Gordon is the one to solve all our problems. God help us all, or do bribes really work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-55602501600420457232008-11-18T13:55:00.000+00:002008-11-18T13:55:00.000+00:00It was always a stupid idea to tie the Tories into...It was always a stupid idea to tie the Tories into Labour's spending plans - buying into the myth that you can not cut public spending without effecting schools or hospitals. There is massive scope for public spending cuts - I would start by an immediate 20% funding reduction across the board for quangos. They alone account for some £140 billion per annum. That would save £28 billion which can be used to provide a real stimulus for the economy and help those who need it most. Follow that up with a 5% year on year cut for quango funding and divert the money where we really need it.Stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15007863347348182876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-7900886824419598242008-11-18T13:46:00.000+00:002008-11-18T13:46:00.000+00:00Oh yes I forgot to say well said that Dale , a f...Oh yes I forgot to say well said that Dale , a fine postNewmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-21541808949051919102008-11-18T13:41:00.001+00:002008-11-18T13:41:00.001+00:00Iain Dale has it spot on here. The Tories are begi...Iain Dale has it spot on here. The Tories are beginning to show some of the foresight and principle that could make them not only electable once more, but also a good government. <BR/><BR/>P.S. Daily political commentary at<BR/>http://despencerbritain.blogspot.com/De Spencer Britainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03386656703932590231noreply@blogger.com