tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post8750020072144091631..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: A Tale of Two Campaign VideosIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-13500595171797984732010-05-04T10:10:45.704+01:002010-05-04T10:10:45.704+01:00I had a leaflet from YBF yesterday. I looked them ...I had a leaflet from YBF yesterday. I looked them up, they are Tory. They have distributed half a million leaflets with no imprint. They dont say vote for the Tories, but their message is the Tory message. <br /><br />See the leaflet at http://greenreading.blogspot.com/2010/05/dodgy-leaflet-is-hung-parliament-scary.html<br /><br />No blog yet about the Lab PPC Manish Sood said 'Brown the worst PM ever'?Adrian Windischhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16306364832746111534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72704771210099810062010-05-03T23:18:47.063+01:002010-05-03T23:18:47.063+01:00The LibDem one was clever, the BlaneyJugend basica...The LibDem one was clever, the BlaneyJugend basically the sort of spittle flecked paranoid rant you'd expect from them. I'd assumed he was gagged until Friday. You lot must be confident if he's been let loose.Jimmyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01542633492362670045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-13693290015462909712010-05-03T17:47:54.392+01:002010-05-03T17:47:54.392+01:00Thanks for posting these videos.
The YBF one is s...Thanks for posting these videos.<br /><br />The YBF one is so over-the-top that it feels like a spoof on negative campaigning.<br /><br />What or who exactly are the YBF? They say on their website that they are non-partisan but they must be Young Conservatives based on their ludicrous video.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801051251247458947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-28892449418052942462010-05-03T17:41:45.339+01:002010-05-03T17:41:45.339+01:00There's also the fact that negative messages w...There's also the fact that negative messages work well in a strict two-party system where a vote lost for party A is a vote won for party B.<br />However, as soon as there are three or more parties, negative ads are of much more dubious value. Attacking Labour could benefit the Tories, the LibDems, the SNP, PC, or one of the smaller parties, so at the very least they need to be combined with a positive message, too.Thomas Widmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14481786791740154131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-83329088392433882432010-05-03T17:41:36.402+01:002010-05-03T17:41:36.402+01:00If you actually bothered to read what I wrote you ...If you actually bothered to read what I wrote you would have worked out that I think the YBF video is rather counterproductive.<br /><br />On the leaflets I have no idea what you are talking about.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-35630757331332443912010-05-03T17:38:00.881+01:002010-05-03T17:38:00.881+01:00It is a shame that you should be promoting the YBF...It is a shame that you should be promoting the YBF on a day when they are distributing thousands of leaflets across the country with no imprint.<br /><br />Do you support this ?Nich Starlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04237390959601973501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63748058283952418712010-05-03T15:46:48.221+01:002010-05-03T15:46:48.221+01:00The YBF video is a bit crap, not just negative. Th...The YBF video is a bit crap, not just negative. The tone is entirely wrong for news broadcasts aand the intercut narration and lightning-over-parliament shots break the fourth wall in a clumsy way. It also contains some dodgy predictions which break suspension of disbelief.<br /><br />The second, "Vote for Change" video is very cleverly done. The line breaks and reading were somewhat odd at first, but the variation on the classic "read every other line" reference was nicely done and got the point across well. If anything, it's about a minute too long and a bit unsteady at first - people will turn off in droves before they reach the twist. Was quite uplifting, though.The King of Wronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04439966612208152425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54460546035310599812010-05-03T15:11:55.307+01:002010-05-03T15:11:55.307+01:00We need someone to challenge the assumption that a...We need someone to challenge the assumption that all three main parties make that your own position is so weak and unappealing that you have to attack that of all the others. It just polarises politics and turns people off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54724318618495728492010-05-03T14:54:21.256+01:002010-05-03T14:54:21.256+01:00I really really like the second one.
Clever, witho...I really really like the second one.<br />Clever, without being smug.Tungsten Piratehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04806403729450647835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-43775912976153204572010-05-03T14:40:53.634+01:002010-05-03T14:40:53.634+01:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjzaXqeUgpk
This ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjzaXqeUgpk<br /><br /> This is another one I quite like.Dilettantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03532639584338090676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-13667618352661568952010-05-03T12:56:51.975+01:002010-05-03T12:56:51.975+01:00Might be old-fashioned but I find that I very rare...Might be old-fashioned but I find that I very rarely open a link to a video on a blog or news source. I can quickly read through a written comment and decide whether it is worth reading carefully or ignoring. <br /><br />You can tell in the first couple of seconds that a video is not worth watching but often you have to watch more of it and perhaps replay part. All takes much longer.<br /><br />I think I will scream if I see yet another based on "Downfall"JMBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13862227988978988383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40451377279705253012010-05-03T12:35:51.083+01:002010-05-03T12:35:51.083+01:00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weq_sHxghcghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weq_sHxghcgcommentorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10321173541321374705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2787609257743490032010-05-03T12:35:51.084+01:002010-05-03T12:35:51.084+01:00Dale is confusing two things: (a) attack ads that ...Dale is confusing two things: (a) attack ads that work because they've got saturation coverage via paid ads and (b) videos that go viral on the internet because they're funny/uplifting/resonant etc.<br /><br />For example, the Swift Boat campaign did so much to undermine Kerry's claims to military valour (he had been awarded Purple Hearts but you get those for simply being wounded, such as literally shooting yourself in the foot). The ads were successful not because of how well they were produced but because everybody saw them: they were paid ads on national networks.Scary Biscuitshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03039289019338752778noreply@blogger.com