tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post8537492361742088448..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Labour MP In Unspontaneous ProtestIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-27160588850070143052009-01-16T09:55:00.000+00:002009-01-16T09:55:00.000+00:00Trevorsden, I don't think you are quite right abou...Trevorsden, I don't think you are quite right about motives. The runway, like other major capital projects planned by our glorious not-so-civil service, will reflect the needs of contractors. So for example, when one or other major civil engineering group is running low on work, a major new infrastructure project will suddenly be found to be of national importance. The contractors operate a "muggins turn" round-robin with their compliant senior civil servant buddies (who later go to work for them or did work for them in the past) and Ministers exist to rubber-stamp the process.<BR/><BR/>The problems at Heathrow could probably be fixed quite easily by cutting back all the little local flights from there to the rest of the UK and France, by installing the high speed train network that other EU countries now have. Alas, this sensible policy will not generate nearly enough graft for certain large corporations.<BR/><BR/>Once you realise that the UK now primarily exists to boost revenues for a number of large companies, everything becomes much easier to understand.DespairingLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903904463236135611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40896761278795457432009-01-16T09:50:00.000+00:002009-01-16T09:50:00.000+00:00I find the prissy and self-serving way Parliament ...I find the prissy and self-serving way Parliament TV goes to the Speaker during a perfectly legitimate MP's protest rather creepy and Stalinesque. Could Gordon Brown or Jacqui Smith have been involved in creating this policy in their younger years?<BR/><BR/>Despite all the blather, I bet Mcdonnell doesn't give two hoots about the environment - he seemed very keen to get in a mention of the Gudwara though.DespairingLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903904463236135611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-89617788374688025082009-01-15T22:17:00.000+00:002009-01-15T22:17:00.000+00:00Trevorsden, unlike some people my views don't swin...Trevorsden, unlike some people my views don't swing with the prevailing political wind. My view on this remains as it always has been.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-73166839623507381302009-01-15T22:15:00.000+00:002009-01-15T22:15:00.000+00:00I think you will see Iain that on this eminently p...I think you will see Iain that on this eminently pro Tory but objective blog the comments are strongly coming for no third runway.<BR/><BR/>I suggest you reassess your position. This runway is being proposed for one reason and one reason only - to create a political stick. All conservatives should unite to ram this stick back down Gordon Browns throat, and Brown should be glad that's the only place we are contented to stick it.<BR/><BR/>Thats ALL Conservatives. Everything the govt does now - thats EVERYTHING - is done for one purpose and one purpose only. Namely to gain a political advantage. Its nothing to do with the economy or the good of the country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-77228497050672893852009-01-15T20:41:00.000+00:002009-01-15T20:41:00.000+00:00My first thought was that he'd had a word with one...My first thought was that he'd had a word with one of the whips beforehand and agreed that his seat was at stake so would it be all right actually if he put on a bit of a show, do something that would be sure to make the telly? Be friends again after the dust settles, little fingers?<BR/><BR/>That thought may be a real injustice to a genuine man for all I know. But that's how badly so many of us have come to think of politicians. We look for the angle first and just assume what we see can't be genuine because it almost always isn't.Jim Baxterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10817293012642419524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-32914602086791946332009-01-15T20:25:00.000+00:002009-01-15T20:25:00.000+00:00Speaking of 3rd runway and John McDonnell's much w...Speaking of 3rd runway and John McDonnell's much watchable protest with Hoon the Goon watching, let us not forget the part played by the slimy Lord Sleaze. Heard that Andrew Gilligan is digging into Lord Sleaze's funds that bought his stately homein the millionnaire's row. We should have a good whip around to fund Gilliagan's research to send Lord Sleaze into a long hibernation third time from British politics. That should make Gordo sport eternal smile for a long quarantine in an institution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-32636983086583410612009-01-15T20:11:00.000+00:002009-01-15T20:11:00.000+00:00Jimbo and JimmyGordo has lost the plot. What a pat...Jimbo and Jimmy<BR/><BR/>Gordo has lost the plot. What a pathetic sight to see Hoon of Dr Kelly notoriety and a New Labourite advocate of 'I only preach and you practice what I preach and I practice something else' doctrine ( preaching egalitarian for all but private coaching to his daughter for Cambridge entry). I liked the sight of Labour MPs, Hoon and Miliband squirming when one of their own infidels was enacting the drama!! We should leave it to Labour to fire at each other!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-62587703932709154492009-01-15T19:56:00.000+00:002009-01-15T19:56:00.000+00:00The conservatives are against it because it is gov...The conservatives are against it because it is government policy. There is no principle involved, merely opportunistic opposition , as with everything else.Jimmyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01542633492362670045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-75027534050699800112009-01-15T19:38:00.000+00:002009-01-15T19:38:00.000+00:00Tories are all over the place when it comes to Air...Tories are all over the place when it comes to Airport expansion.<BR/><BR/>No No No they cry, the environment is more important.... errr except if Boris proposes a new one at the Thames estuary.<BR/><BR/>Only a few weeks ago the Tories were debating that Green issues must be put aside to concentrate on the economy, flip flopped again today.<BR/><BR/>Tories are so apparently opposed to airport expansion YET it was a Labour MP who made the most vocal and visible protest. ( all the Tories hiding away )<BR/><BR/>So if the Tories get into power, there will NEVER be any airport or major transport infrastructure projects due to there environmental impact, and we can all go back to a frugal existence?Jimbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10942461285409547506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-14620298540635162482009-01-15T19:30:00.000+00:002009-01-15T19:30:00.000+00:00Oh Iain how pathetic. Tories fence sitting morons....Oh Iain how pathetic. Tories fence sitting morons.<BR/><BR/>YOU are apparently 100% against Airport Expansion, YET it was a labour MP who made the most vocal and visible protest. <BR/><BR/>I personally think Airport expansion is good, but applaud the MP for having at least some conviction; unlike the whole Tory front bench who have gone to ground on today’s announcement.Jimbohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10942461285409547506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-42968750864385187582009-01-15T19:27:00.000+00:002009-01-15T19:27:00.000+00:00Iain, don't even think about it...please. no...has...Iain, don't even think about it...please. no...haslehurst can stay.<BR/><BR/>:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-53602409312672086092009-01-15T18:06:00.000+00:002009-01-15T18:06:00.000+00:00the most intresting part of the video is the fact ...the most intresting part of the video is the fact that hazlehurst clearly has to be told what to do in terms of naming him by an underling.<BR/><BR/>hasnt he been dep speaker since about 97? shouldnt he know what in these circs?KPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06299707707433365538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76900834281883826132009-01-15T18:03:00.000+00:002009-01-15T18:03:00.000+00:00Mr Mr 2.58Cameron didn't need to ask Brown about d...Mr Mr 2.58<BR/><BR/>Cameron didn't need to ask Brown about decisions taken in the House.<BR/>One of his back benchers covered it, although Brown, typically, didn't answer satisfactorily.<BR/><BR/>Re McDonnell: He's an honest chap, who despises Brown, but he had to oppose; he would be deselected otherwise.<BR/>Expect other Labour MPs nearby to oppose also. They might just have a fighting chance at the General Election.Birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12161658443183028628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-59076198366510961622009-01-15T17:44:00.000+00:002009-01-15T17:44:00.000+00:00He could take the anti-runway even further by supp...He could take the anti-runway even further by supporting an organisation that fired mortar bombs at them.Jimmyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01542633492362670045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-27546786842833332082009-01-15T17:34:00.000+00:002009-01-15T17:34:00.000+00:00I don't believe a word of it. He whinges about gov...I don't believe a word of it. He whinges about government by diktat but that's been going on for 12 years. He's suspended on full pay, he can wander round sympathising with constituents who'll listen and he's nicely made a name for himself and can say 'nowt to do with me guv'.<BR/><BR/> Blah, blah, blah - opportunistic guff. <BR/><BR/>In other news today:<BR/><BR/>Harperson announces expenses not to be published, Jack Straw can quash FOI requests, Yvette Balls covering up etc etc.<BR/><BR/> John McDonnell - good stooge. Complete Hoon.Dick the Prickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02683095612320513712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-48393518705413502672009-01-15T17:24:00.000+00:002009-01-15T17:24:00.000+00:00I love the fact that it was the Hoon who had to an...I love the fact that it was the Hoon who had to announce this. How incredibly appropriate.<BR/><BR/>Let's have more maverick forms of protest in Parliament, please. If you look at parliaments abroad, you'll sometimes see MPs having fights. It would liven up PMQs, for a start. Whenever I hear him lying about how he "saved the world" and how the Tories would "do nothing", I just wonder why Cameron doesn't just throw a size nine boot at him.The Grim Reaperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05543130733645367498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-26558597406879494432009-01-15T16:50:00.000+00:002009-01-15T16:50:00.000+00:00john dee and all, take a look at Ed Miliband's bod...john dee and all, take a look at Ed Miliband's body language when Hoon is replying to McDonnell. You can see he HATES it. He is squirming.<BR/><BR/>The whole thing STINKS. It has to be BAA, not even the construction lobby, who could make a packet out of a brand new airport as much as runway 3 (or do they think a Dutch company would win the contract?).Roger Thornhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03591327286533118901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-84466439412205969322009-01-15T16:48:00.000+00:002009-01-15T16:48:00.000+00:00Oops - clearly I meant "sticking up FOR the intere...Oops - clearly I meant "sticking up FOR the interests of his constituents"bill hiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14615229815184292509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-65836690028118478202009-01-15T16:44:00.001+00:002009-01-15T16:44:00.001+00:00Good on him, I say - and I don't say that about ma...Good on him, I say - and I don't say that about many Labour MPs. So what if he's trying to hang on to his job? At least he's bloody *doing* his job - sticking up the interests of his constituents.bill hiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14615229815184292509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2629764331964736142009-01-15T16:44:00.000+00:002009-01-15T16:44:00.000+00:00Well done John McDonnel.Pity about Ed Miliband and...Well done John McDonnel.Pity about Ed Miliband and Hilary Benn,a gutless pair.<BR/>Hoon carries his half-truths from Iraq to Heathrow.jon deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17354116589298046787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-42017407139007467792009-01-15T16:32:00.000+00:002009-01-15T16:32:00.000+00:00Canvas, did you know I come from Saffron Walden :)...Canvas, did you know I come from Saffron Walden :)Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-53758013674420294762009-01-15T16:26:00.000+00:002009-01-15T16:26:00.000+00:00I wish haslehurst would resign! I want a new MP.I wish haslehurst would resign! I want a new MP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76855925679490578082009-01-15T16:22:00.000+00:002009-01-15T16:22:00.000+00:00He has a BLOG Tell him what you think. It's what ...He has a <A HREF="http://www.john4leader.org.uk/" REL="nofollow"> BLOG </A><BR/><BR/>Tell him what you think. It's what a blog is for.Old Holbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10164491045068093627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-58351060136215404172009-01-15T16:20:00.000+00:002009-01-15T16:20:00.000+00:00Heathrow is an obsolete airport in a location that...Heathrow is an obsolete airport in a location that was the second worst in the world for the city it served until Hong Kong had the sense to close Kai Tak. And today we have received statistics that passengers are beginning to turn away from the obsolete Heathrow.<BR/><BR/>The only sustainable transport policy for expanding London's airport infrastructure is to create exactly the national airport than Hoon falsely claims Heathrow can be. This can only be done by implementing the good Conservative policy of building a High Speed Line North out of London, harnessing the capacity of BHX for London.<BR/><BR/>Sir Alan Hazlehurst has disgraced democracy by taking action against McDonell rather than that mendacious technocrat Hoon. Hazlehurst should resign and Hoon should be suspended for a month for lying to the house.James Dowdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11058389162481491681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88493636569742637402009-01-15T15:59:00.000+00:002009-01-15T15:59:00.000+00:00An MP with a pair.Note how the suspension had to g...An MP with a pair.<BR/><BR/>Note how the suspension had to go to a division.<BR/><BR/>Hoon is a buff. Heathrow is NOT necessary, in fact to continue to endanger the entire city of London by maintianing this airport is a disgrace.<BR/><BR/>Move it to the East so there is no overfly. Move it to the Thames Estuary.<BR/><BR/>Turn Heathrow in to housing, so people will not be forced to live "up on the marshes" in the grey, bleak Thames corridor.Roger Thornhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03591327286533118901noreply@blogger.com