tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post8453116400494468937..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: A Letter to the Conservative Party BoardIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-6650703305419863902007-04-23T12:15:00.000+01:002007-04-23T12:15:00.000+01:00Trust "the people", fine - but the reactionary zea...Trust "the people", fine - but the reactionary zealots who are motivated enough to join the Tory Party and go to MEP selection meetings ain't the people, by any stretch of the imagination.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-79943752377774648102007-04-21T03:05:00.000+01:002007-04-21T03:05:00.000+01:00If the Tories were so full of democratic principle...If the Tories were so full of democratic principles such a letter<BR/>would not be necessary.<BR/>What's the problem here?<BR/>For ever continuing splits on the European Union.Manfaranghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16672026288937285646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-20143990109231384152007-04-21T00:01:00.000+01:002007-04-21T00:01:00.000+01:00I wish you luck, but you can hardly claim that tru...I wish you luck, but you can hardly claim that trusting members sets the Tories apart - the LibDems vote for their leader, MPs, MEPs, GLA members, etc etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-28920397964560724662007-04-20T23:19:00.000+01:002007-04-20T23:19:00.000+01:00As anonymous 7:31 said - who cares? - but then aga...As anonymous 7:31 said - who cares? - but then again I do. Labour do let us rank our lists, except for the sitters. But the sitters pretty much get shoo'ed in in their usual order. And the original list for the first PR election WAS ranked by the centre. So are you lot trying to get to choose and rank the whole list including the sitters? Or will you settle for what the Labour Party have had for the last two Euro selections? The misrepresentation of our internal democracy is pretty crass ... though it is not good enough for my liking and I was very vocal about that last time.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-77054758727499367892007-04-20T23:02:00.000+01:002007-04-20T23:02:00.000+01:00Well said and thank you, Chris Palmer (MEP Watch),...Well said and thank you, <BR/><BR/>Chris Palmer (MEP Watch), Richard Hyslop (MEP Watch), Andrew Woodman (MEP Watch), Tim Montgomerie (ConservativeHome), Samuel Coates (ConservativeHome), Donal Blaney (Young Britons’ Foundation), Iain Dale (Iain Dale’s Diary).<BR/><BR/>please keep fighting this outrageous proposal and for democracy for party members.<BR/><BR/>Are Conservative head office becoming such totalitarian control freaks now that we soon won't be able to distinguish between them and nulab? If this goes through I take back every positive word I've said about Cameron recently and will be thrust back on the electoral fence.<BR/><BR/>Ditto if the Conservatives do not get off their fat cat backsides and fight the repressive measures which would deny freedom of speech to bloggers. <BR/><BR/>Auntie Flo'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-15024483031476738382007-04-20T22:25:00.000+01:002007-04-20T22:25:00.000+01:00anon @ 9.57 pm - so every Tory MEP incumbent shoul...anon @ 9.57 pm - so every Tory MEP incumbent should be slung out, then?<BR/><BR/>Perhaps MEPWatch should encourage candidates to stand for the list on a ticket of never actually leaving the UK.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-16650497686182083842007-04-20T22:16:00.000+01:002007-04-20T22:16:00.000+01:00This is necessary: keep up the pressure Ian,This is necessary: keep up the pressure Ian,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-8322042774300615682007-04-20T21:57:00.000+01:002007-04-20T21:57:00.000+01:00This anonymous cares. Anons who don't care are inc...This anonymous cares. Anons who don't care are incumbent MEPs who will try any trick in the book to stay on their gravy train.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-12194373536654352352007-04-20T21:03:00.000+01:002007-04-20T21:03:00.000+01:00anon @ 8.39 pm - "if their votes changed anything ...anon @ 8.39 pm - <BR/><BR/>"if their votes changed anything they would soon be abolished".<BR/><BR/>I recommend you stick to commenting on something you actually know about, sunshine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72716753944340338122007-04-20T20:47:00.000+01:002007-04-20T20:47:00.000+01:00Why is this blog site chock full of hate and paran...Why is this blog site chock full of hate and paranoia?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-7780673124876873742007-04-20T20:39:00.000+01:002007-04-20T20:39:00.000+01:00By all means fight for democracy, but don't waste ...By all means fight for democracy, but don't waste your time over this. <BR/><BR/>This isn't the place to go into the detail, and the amount of secrecy and obfuscation from the 'Euro' institutions make understanding how they work well nigh impossible. <BR/><BR/>But democracy is not a component of the European form of Government. The MEPs are there to give an illusion of democracy, but truly if their votes changed anything they would soon be abolished. <BR/><BR/>You would do better fighting to regain some more sovereignty for Westminster, so that we aren't at the mercy of ridiculous laws to curb freedom of speech which were not originated here, which we don't want and should refuse to implement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-42031349961235348812007-04-20T20:34:00.000+01:002007-04-20T20:34:00.000+01:00Iain, this is all well and good, but how do you st...Iain, this is all well and good, but how do you stop the right-wing loons [admittedly a minority] who are either homophobic/xenophobic or Norman Tebbit from voting ?? <BR/><BR/>Democracy sounds great in principle, but really I think decisions should be left in the hands of people like yourself, Boris Johnson, David Davis, and David Cameron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2577030232020263782007-04-20T20:23:00.000+01:002007-04-20T20:23:00.000+01:00So why has no one else commented apart from you an...So why has no one else commented apart from you and me??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54045805557116150252007-04-20T19:33:00.000+01:002007-04-20T19:33:00.000+01:00The people who signed the letter, for a start - an...The people who signed the letter, for a start - and about 250,000 Tory Party members ought to care too.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-82879950819173673282007-04-20T19:31:00.000+01:002007-04-20T19:31:00.000+01:00Who cares!!Who cares!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com