tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post8168833710247138761..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Norwich North: Triumph for Chloe SmithIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger83125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-49299328231198392882009-07-26T10:15:22.743+01:002009-07-26T10:15:22.743+01:00The last rat gets all the cheese.
The previous re...The last rat gets all the cheese.<br /><br />The previous representative of Norwich North was sacked for effectively representing the people rather than the party.<br /><br />If Chloe Smith represents the Tories, and the Tories support Chloe, who will represent Norwich North?JimmyGirohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01548795180321590463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-19927902006563634232009-07-24T20:58:14.717+01:002009-07-24T20:58:14.717+01:00Unfortunately all of the major parties scored far ...Unfortunately all of the major parties scored far fewer individual votes than they did in 2005 (something like a combined total of 40,000 in 2005 down to 20,000 or so this time around)<br /><br />%ages sound good but numbers of votes tells a different story. Only the Greens and UKIP actually polled more votes than in 2005.<br /><br />Sadly, the turnout was only 45%, which perhaps should be of much more concern for all those profesional politicos, than who got the greatest % of those who were arsed to vote.The Jackson Fournoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-77605523104184369212009-07-24T18:12:07.372+01:002009-07-24T18:12:07.372+01:00@ Ninoclast
What? So you would prefer that the T...@ Ninoclast<br /><br />What? So you would prefer that the Tories lost 'on principle'? <br /><br />Astounding.Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-84843586519961305752009-07-24T18:08:54.502+01:002009-07-24T18:08:54.502+01:00Another stunning victory...
While we're on a ...Another stunning victory...<br /><br />While we're on a by-election theme, the good burghers of Glasgow North East are being denied parliamentary representation until November. Even the parliamentary website has its previous Member down as 'Lab': http://www.parliament.uk/directories/hcio/by_elections.cfm<br /><br />Says it all, really. You couldn't make it up. You just couldn't...Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-49667753824444984422009-07-24T17:31:52.732+01:002009-07-24T17:31:52.732+01:00It's a triumph for Left wing politics with a T...It's a triumph for Left wing politics with a Tory tint.Winning is everything,principles can go hang is the Tory default position now.niconoclasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11346612911422614130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-27800341932142930992009-07-24T17:15:44.657+01:002009-07-24T17:15:44.657+01:00Though it is nice to see the Nulaborites loose (ag...Though it is nice to see the Nulaborites loose (again), there are a couple of flies in the ointment.<br /><br />For one thing, the Tory vote, while OK, is hardly sensational considering the disaster that Blair/Brown have brought down on us. <br /><br />I suspect that the Laborites will be quietly pleased that their policy of building up a constituency based on welfare and government jobs seems to be paying dividends in shoring up their vote.<br /><br />For another, if Smith represents the new face of conservatism, then we can only look forward to years of tinkering with the same statist, authoritarian policies favoured by Nulabor.<br /><br />Ultimately these will fail - as they always do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-18623141213935603652009-07-24T16:39:29.559+01:002009-07-24T16:39:29.559+01:00Because Parliament isn't sitting.Because Parliament isn't sitting.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-51349763395358086012009-07-24T16:36:41.279+01:002009-07-24T16:36:41.279+01:00OK guys I think you have misunderstood me. In the...OK guys I think you have misunderstood me. In the post Iain says that Chloe cannot take her seat until October; I just want to know why she can't take it nowRichardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-36571545786200107202009-07-24T16:36:37.361+01:002009-07-24T16:36:37.361+01:00@Gordosagonner:
'This is the sort of by elect...@Gordosagonner:<br /><br />'This is the sort of by election they would have walked a few years ago.Will the not so nice party soon be turning in Nick Clegg?'<br /><br />The Lib Dems were never going to walk this one, and they knew it from the beginning. It's disappointing that we didn't push Labour closer, but we've always been 3rd in Norwich North, so it was unrealistic to expect a win. The important thing was to hold off the Greens/UKIP and make sure we kept 3rd place, and we did. Just.<br /><br />As for throwing the kitchen sink at it, that simply isn't true. The effort on the part of the Lib Dems was nowhere near that seen in Brent East, for example, because it was known from the beginning that it wasn't winnable. We had about 45 people there yesterday, which I'd say represented a modest collection of cutlery being thrown, rather than the aforementioned sink.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-41620344461087528902009-07-24T16:08:41.151+01:002009-07-24T16:08:41.151+01:00@ Chris Paul
"There are around 20,000 voters...@ Chris Paul<br /><br />"There are around 20,000 voters who have not uttered a vote this time who will do so in the General Election"<br /><br />Telepathic savant, are we? You actually don't know that, do you? The very best you could hope for is 'may do so'. But it no doubt suits your convictions.<br /><br /><br />Clown.Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-85520136093344015062009-07-24T16:05:29.425+01:002009-07-24T16:05:29.425+01:00farage not happy with the BBC iain
http://www.uki...farage not happy with the BBC iain<br /><br />http://www.ukip.org/content/latest-news/1184-record-ukip-byelection-despite-bbcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-20157481443660544552009-07-24T15:57:05.922+01:002009-07-24T15:57:05.922+01:00Maybe the Greens did badly because the Tories went...Maybe the Greens did badly because the Tories went Green. Check out the colour scheme on <a href="http://www.chloesmith.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">Chloe Smith's website</a>. For a while I thought I was actually on the Green Party website. Almost no blue at all - even the Tory logo seems to have almost disappeared!DespairingLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903904463236135611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-7990913886138102732009-07-24T15:52:40.476+01:002009-07-24T15:52:40.476+01:00Conservatives didn't even manage to get their ...Conservatives didn't even manage to get their whole vote out but Labour have been given a kicking by their supporters.<br /><br />However, come the election when the choice is between a Labour govt or a Conservative govt, Labour will win the seat back.<br /><br />The simple fact is that Conservatives didn't do well enough in these circumstances to form the next govt, as no doubt Tory number crunchers will be well aware, despite the brave face they're putting on it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-52645405803852780912009-07-24T15:52:37.315+01:002009-07-24T15:52:37.315+01:00Hamish, the question was directed at Iain.
:))Hamish, the question was directed at Iain. <br /><br />:))Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-30625786390924337812009-07-24T15:49:53.261+01:002009-07-24T15:49:53.261+01:00Anon at 2:29 ...and anyway today's result is s...Anon at 2:29 ...and anyway today's result is sample of the Norwich North electorate. It is probable that if the turnout had been 100% the same relative proportions would have been maintained. <br /><br />This is a vote for the Tories, well it's a vote for rightyness if you add UKIP to the Tory vote. That is it's a vote against leftyness. The difference is not large, I grant you, but the swing - 16% wasn't it - tells you which way the voter is heading, and it ain't towards the proto totalitarians in New Labour and the fascistic Greens, or the limp lefty Libdems. It's towards the worryingly oligarchical, Eurtofederalist and policy lite (or policy fairly bloody awful when it comes to Osborne's ideas for retail financial services, scrapping the FSA apart) Tories. If Cameron had been more definite about genuine reform of the bureaucratic state he'd have done a Hell of a lot better, if my local straw polling is of any indication.Lolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04586735342675041312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-68162186504565780852009-07-24T15:24:23.717+01:002009-07-24T15:24:23.717+01:00Great result
Halfwit candidate---Chloe does not i...Great result<br /><br />Halfwit candidate---Chloe does not impress whatsoever. Comes across as lighter than a featherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-24517564277215511702009-07-24T15:03:42.094+01:002009-07-24T15:03:42.094+01:00Canvas,
Probably not, since I have no idea what yo...Canvas,<br />Probably not, since I have no idea what you were thinking.<br />Give us a clue.<br />Is it something to do with long legs?<br />Or perhaps that your picture doesn't do you justice?Hamishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07401451754373118599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2927096986786592952009-07-24T14:58:46.909+01:002009-07-24T14:58:46.909+01:00Great result. One more jab in the eye for the lyin...Great result. One more jab in the eye for the lying, sleazy, happy to take us to wars but not happy at funding our troops properly to fight them Labour Party.moorlandhunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12917369756919621880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40239015766416007342009-07-24T14:55:09.564+01:002009-07-24T14:55:09.564+01:00The Conservatives had to work bloody hard, though....The Conservatives had to work bloody hard, though. Well done, UKIP!Peter Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-60736493248676294232009-07-24T14:42:32.445+01:002009-07-24T14:42:32.445+01:00Are you thinking to yourself "What does Chloe...Are you thinking to yourself "What does Chloe Smith have that I don't have?" Besides the obvious...<br /><br />:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-21741876320781989132009-07-24T14:42:23.721+01:002009-07-24T14:42:23.721+01:00henrymacrory has just tweeted:
Correction: Labour&...henrymacrory has just tweeted:<br />Correction: Labour's share at Norwich North was the lowest vote share of an incumbent MP’s party in any UK by-election for at least 40 years<br /><br />I like TwitterLee Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16875324408085242297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-56437925207989035742009-07-24T14:33:47.433+01:002009-07-24T14:33:47.433+01:00Note to Chris Paul , Dr Michael Winstanley was not...Note to Chris Paul , Dr Michael Winstanley was not elected in similar circumstances or for a short period of time . He won Cheadle at the 1966 GE and lost in 1970 . Won Hazel Grove in Feb 1974 and lost in Oct 74 .<br /> So how did we do at forecasting the result .Iain was well out with his forecast of the majority and therefore must be out on his forecast for the Conservative and/or Labour and/or LibDem shares . How did I do ? I was almost spot on with my forecasts for Conservative (38) Labour (18) and Green (11) I was sadly out on LD (21) and UKIP (7) .Mark Seniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06482009878893889107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57872908818854247472009-07-24T14:32:46.126+01:002009-07-24T14:32:46.126+01:00Top 3 idiots of the day
1) Ben Bradshaw
2) Mark ...Top 3 idiots of the day<br /><br />1) Ben Bradshaw<br /><br />2) Mark senior<br /><br />3) Nick RobinsonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4560418326604900292009-07-24T14:32:30.506+01:002009-07-24T14:32:30.506+01:00Chris Paul said...
There are around 20,000 voters ...<i>Chris Paul said...<br />There are around 20,000 voters who have not uttered a vote this time who will do so in the General Election.</i><br /><br />To quote one of Mr Paul's heroes, "so what?". <br /><br />Some research into the potential voting intentions on non-voters (by Bob Worcester I think) indicates that if they were to vote, their votes would be distributed among the parties in roughly the same proportion as those who actually did vote.<br /><br />So to count on the support of the "stay aways" next time round is, to coin a phrase, Whistling Dixie, of which Mr Paul will have considerable practice in the coming year.Windsor Tripehoundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16923036087016324862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-49608049325885462742009-07-24T14:31:16.033+01:002009-07-24T14:31:16.033+01:00The BBC are getting "battered" as such o...The BBC are getting "battered" as such on the Nick Robinson blog. No wonder he doesn't read the comments anymore. This just in from the BBC:<br />BBC political correspondent Carole Walker said it was a "convincing majority" for the Tories, much more than many in the party expected and was a "serious blow" for Labour. I think it was much more than the BBC were expecting too!!Lee Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16875324408085242297noreply@blogger.com