tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post8143656162201431155..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Hansard Society Invites Three Scots To Discuss English VotesIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-825683564303012312008-06-03T14:08:00.000+01:002008-06-03T14:08:00.000+01:00An interesting debate. Frankly I would like the En...An interesting debate. Frankly I would like the English to be given a vote on Scottish independence. I believe that the majority of us would readily support it. This way they are gone and we will finally have our freedom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-58160344799523898912008-01-24T22:11:00.000+00:002008-01-24T22:11:00.000+00:00The fascist jocks are crapping themselves again! I...The fascist jocks are crapping themselves again! I have enough contempt for them as it is without them increasing it. Honestly, just how cowardly as these people? <BR/> And why is Faulkner referred to as Lord Faulkner? He got that title 'cos he knew Blair! He is know more a lord than I am.<BR/><BR/> True Brit said... <BR/>The usual Dale tolerated/approved anti-Scots xenophobes crawl out from under their rocks with their usual uninformed, ignorant prejudice. No change there then.<BR/><BR/>Don't forget, Labour has a large majority of MPs in England, so England has the Labour government that England elected under our electoral rules - nothing to do with the Scots.<BR/><BR/>January 22, 2008 12:29 AM<BR/><BR/> True brit, I have scotch relatives! My great grandfather was a jock!! Bang goes your theory ah? True brit, how does it go again? If the other side (The English) are getting to the nitty gritty say something like "oh, you just hate scots!" Like I stated, my great grandfather was a scot! <BR/><BR/>"Labour has a large majority of MPs in England"<BR/><BR/> So? What does this have to do with the unfair treatment of the entire English nation? It has nothing all to do with the question at hand! <BR/><BR/>"England has the Labour government that England elected under our electoral rules - nothing to do with the Scots"<BR/><BR/>No, England does not have a govt that England elected! Who elected Gordon Brown? Who? I am sure you cant tto answer. "Nothing to do with the jocks"? Of course it has everything to do with the jocks. "The jocks" (in his SCOTTISH constituency) voted Gordon Brown into Westminster (England); not one English-based person did! So, the English did not vote for Gordon Brown at all. <BR/>What? the English got what govt they asked for? <BR/>In England, more people voted for the conservatives! New labour were second. So, "England" did not get what it asked for!<BR/><BR/><BR/> Anonymous said... <BR/><BR/>Rifkind is MP for Kensington and Chelsea, are you saying because he's Scottish that he can't represent the views of his English electorate? <BR/><BR/>He isn't ; I AM! Rifkind DOES NOT represent MY VIEWS! He isn't English! <BR/>Oh by the way, you accidentally forgot to mention that Rifkind's constituents DID<BR/>NOT VOTE HIM IN! He was parachuted in by his party! Yet another example of SCOTTISH FASCISM!<BR/><BR/>"[Are you saying]<BR/>that anyone with a different nationality who has lived in England for many years can't represent English concerns?"<BR/><BR/>Rifkind does not represent English concerns! When has he EVER stood up for the English? Name one time! Go on, I dare you to try and invent something!<BR/><BR/>"That is as daft an argument as Scots and Welsh complaining about the many English Prime Ministers who have controlled those countries"<BR/><BR/>Ha! ha! You heard that one then. Yeah, I have heard it all my life! It's funny how the English never hear that complaint anymore aint it? <BR/><BR/>I am so glad to see the scottish tyrants in new labour are STILL petified of the English. What a bunch of yellow bellies!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-60461316999632009402008-01-23T12:34:00.000+00:002008-01-23T12:34:00.000+00:009:54 What a disgrace.9:54 What a disgrace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76587016935007851662008-01-23T08:12:00.000+00:002008-01-23T08:12:00.000+00:00A Prime Minister called Brown from Fife,Gave the E...A Prime Minister called Brown from Fife,<BR/>Gave the English a terrible fright,<BR/>He increased public borrowing,<BR/>Until he was robbing 'em,<BR/>So at the election, he was told, to take a hike...........Todd Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13034523370325835134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-84399895840950658302008-01-23T00:29:00.000+00:002008-01-23T00:29:00.000+00:00"English Democrat" would appear to be a New Labour..."English Democrat" would appear to be a New Labour Troll.<BR/><BR/>New Labour are terified of the English issue.<BR/><BR/>Canvassing in Local Elections Labour Activists have called the pro-english parliament party - the English Democrats - Fascists - Fascists of course means anti-parliamentarian - I think that most people are coming to realise that the Scottish Led Labour party are acually the fascistsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-83719583219022826592008-01-22T21:54:00.000+00:002008-01-22T21:54:00.000+00:00Bit of a high Troll count here - means there's som...Bit of a high Troll count here - means there's something the New Labour maggots want to smear.<BR/><BR/>Maybe I've been missing something but I had Iain down as a regular supporter of an English Parliament. 18DS (which is missed) gave time to English nationalism and the issue.Man in a Shedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00990902055642035293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63164264766676647782008-01-22T20:32:00.000+00:002008-01-22T20:32:00.000+00:00Iain, English Democrat is clearly a troll, why are...Iain, English Democrat is clearly a troll, why are you letting through his comments?<BR/><BR/><B>Why can't we have a non english head of state.</B><BR/><BR/>The current monarchy is descended from the Stuart line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-8183887892108233492008-01-22T17:15:00.000+00:002008-01-22T17:15:00.000+00:00Iain Dale isn't English. He's admitted he's Scott...Iain Dale isn't English. He's admitted he's Scottish and he has Scottish family. He supports David Davis who is AGAINST England having her own Parliament. His 18 Doughty Street TV station supports the butchering of England into Euro regions. He has called the English people idiots.<BR/><BR/>An English Parliament isn't enough. We need laws to stop ANYONE with SCOTTISH BLOOD like IAIN CAMPBELL MCDALE from being elected an MP in ENGLAND.<BR/><BR/>ENGLISH PARLIAMENT NOW!!!!<BR/><BR/>NO to SCOTTISH harvesting of ENGLISH ORGANS!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-22498136694095118102008-01-22T17:13:00.000+00:002008-01-22T17:13:00.000+00:00The Kensington and Chelsea voters did not vote for...The Kensington and Chelsea voters did not vote for Rifkind they voted for the Conservative Party that parachuted Rifkind into the constituency.<BR/>K and C would vote for a varnished turd as long as it had the word "Conservative" attached.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-55923646798053256772008-01-22T17:11:00.000+00:002008-01-22T17:11:00.000+00:00Very odd. Them being Scots is incidental.The issue...Very odd. Them being Scots is incidental.<BR/><BR/>The issue here is an answer to the West Lothian Question and judging by the tone and participants they want a conclusion that it is not.<BR/><BR/>Whish begs the question why they have not invited those who say they have an answer?<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.snp.org/press-releases/2005/snp_press_release.2006-10-03.1923666302" REL="nofollow">Salmond: Independence Only Answer To West Lothian Question</A><BR/><BR/>Now why have they not invited anybody from the SNP?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-84873740545318380242008-01-22T16:06:00.000+00:002008-01-22T16:06:00.000+00:00Iain, you are far too derogatory in tone regarding...Iain, you are far too derogatory in tone regarding being Scottish. Normally you are more careful but this time have stepped over the line. Rifkind is MP for Kensington and Chelsea, are you saying because he's Scottish that he can't represent the views of his English electorate? Or that anyone with a different nationality who has lived in England for many years can't represent English concerns? Whatever ever that is. There is no simple English view just as there is no simple Scottish view. That is as daft an argument as Scots and Welsh complaining about the many English Prime Ministers who have controlled those countries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-23182429019823740842008-01-22T15:43:00.000+00:002008-01-22T15:43:00.000+00:00England is the most oppressed nation in the planet...England is the most oppressed nation in the planet. I hear the jews and the palestians have decided to give up their war to help the poooor english. Yes the nation that has a head of state who runs dozens of nations is opressed now!. The same nation that forced the celtic nations, including cornwall, by the gun and sword to take it's language is now oppressed, because we have non english pm for the first time in 6 decades. Oh and apparenlty it is subsiding a nation that has oil. That is pretty impressive. What other rubbish do you english extremists say next, your giving welfare payments to king of saudi arabia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-67466023508310701102008-01-22T15:23:00.000+00:002008-01-22T15:23:00.000+00:00Wy don't they ask why the head of state is allways...Wy don't they ask why the head of state is allways english. Why can't we have a non english head of state.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44675650109350044632008-01-22T14:29:00.000+00:002008-01-22T14:29:00.000+00:00Why do we not get a debate on why the head of stat...Why do we not get a debate on why the head of state is allways born in England or why numerous nations across have an english head of state, as a result. I think this would be a good way of mocking moronic claim that the english are an opressed line that the Tories want to use. Oh by the way this is 1st scottish pm for 60 years Oooh the english are sooooo oppressed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-24523808124406341292008-01-22T14:21:00.000+00:002008-01-22T14:21:00.000+00:00There seems to be a lot of hostility towards the S...There seems to be a lot of hostility towards the Scots from many of the English contributors. The problem for the English democratic deficit is not the Scots but the Labour Party which is scared witless by the prospect of an English Parliament with a perpetual non-labour majority.<BR/>So don't blame the Scots. Remember the Scots had the guts to kick Labour out last May.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-68519118983727168882008-01-22T13:47:00.000+00:002008-01-22T13:47:00.000+00:00There seems to be a lot of hostility towards the S...There seems to be a lot of hostility towards the Scots from many of the English contributors. The problem for the English democratic deficit is not the Scots but the Labour Party which is scared witless by the prospect of an English Parliament with a perpetual non-labour majority.<BR/>So don't blame the Scots. Remember the Scots had the guts to kick Labour out last May.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4049308359285409152008-01-22T12:57:00.000+00:002008-01-22T12:57:00.000+00:00Speaking from the English p of v I also agree that...Speaking from the English p of v I also agree that a debate on the West Lothian Question might well usefully include a Scot or two .<BR/><BR/> But just Scots and no English at all ? <BR/><BR/> Not even a litte bitty attempt at even handedness!<BR/><BR/> a little bit biased don't you think <BR/><BR/>or are your senses so dulled by years of intimidation and discrimination against the English you are incapable of discerning it ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-11800626487227783052008-01-22T12:56:00.000+00:002008-01-22T12:56:00.000+00:00anonymous at 11.44 amSheens McDonald has definitel...anonymous at 11.44 am<BR/><BR/>Sheens McDonald has definitely been touted as a past girlfriend of GB.<BR/>She has never denied it as far as I know. Perhaps she was used to allay certain "doubts" about the future PM?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-22301753062946978112008-01-22T12:55:00.000+00:002008-01-22T12:55:00.000+00:00Anonymous said... "As for Sheena McDonald - she ma...Anonymous said... <BR/>"As for Sheena McDonald - she may have been seen in GB's company, but was never his girlfriend."<BR/><BR/>How do you know what their precise relationship was? Everyone around them seemed to think that she was his girlfriend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-17763302058560730612008-01-22T12:28:00.000+00:002008-01-22T12:28:00.000+00:00The New Labour practice of inhabiting distinguishe...The New Labour practice of inhabiting distinguished, but no longer functional in terms of their declared 20th or even 19th century objectives, organisations is remarkable. The Labour party itself is nothing like the party whose honourable history and aims are traduced by the current incumbants; the Fabian Society, the Hansard Society, the Royal Society of Arts, cultural foundations of every national and local kind - it goes on and on - and gets larger in scope:the universities as their business plans and bureaucracies overthrow academic control; major, long established charitable foundations, and on, into co-operatives, demutualised building societies and provident associations, financial institutions various - you name it, New Labour apparatchiks are there dressed in the grave clothes of institutions and organisations whose honourable past they claim. At the international level it's amazing they don't dig up the League of Nations, but Gordon Brown and his zombie party can be found emphasising the role of the United Nations and operating the limbs of a once functional body, long defunct in purpose or achievement.<BR/><BR/>We are conducting our political discourse in a ghostly landscape of dead institutions and the reanimated corpses of once worthwhile objectives, while the real world is arranged to suit the post democratic power elites.hatfield girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12673905475452420002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-37900227294917432532008-01-22T11:44:00.000+00:002008-01-22T11:44:00.000+00:00I agree with Anglo Scot that there is good reason ...I agree with Anglo Scot that there is good reason for Malcolm Rifkind to be heard on this.<BR/>As for Sheena McDonald - she may have been seen in GB's company, but was never his girlfriend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76387866932234465222008-01-22T11:27:00.000+00:002008-01-22T11:27:00.000+00:00Daniel Lucraft said... "The SNP aren't nationalist...Daniel Lucraft said... <BR/><BR/>"The SNP aren't nationalists."<BR/><BR/>Maybe they ought to change the name of the party then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-90633930229562967472008-01-22T11:25:00.000+00:002008-01-22T11:25:00.000+00:00Anonymous said... "so now we know that the Hansard...Anonymous said... <BR/><BR/>"so now we know that the Hansard Society is just another seedy , corrupt , Blairised organisation like all the others we used to trust to be genuinely impartial"<BR/><BR/> <BR/>David Cameron (Joint Vice-President)<BR/><BR/>Andrew Lansley (Joint Vice-Chair)<BR/><BR/>Obviously, a seedy, corrupt organisation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-62876898785350140312008-01-22T11:16:00.000+00:002008-01-22T11:16:00.000+00:00Malcolm Rifkind is the MP for Kensington and Chels...Malcolm Rifkind is the MP for Kensington and Chelsea therefore is English as far as this matter is concerned. Where he was born doesn't matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-31778993768270111902008-01-22T11:06:00.000+00:002008-01-22T11:06:00.000+00:00Anglo-scot-Every free Englishman is entitled to sa...Anglo-scot-<BR/><BR/>Every free Englishman is entitled to say what he wants and we'll listen to who we want to. ( Its a blog anyway - <I>you don't need to read it </I>! Go back to lurking under bridges.)<BR/><BR/>The problem is that part of the Scottish establishment is trying to stifle debate - and not even trying any subtlety.Man in a Shedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00990902055642035293noreply@blogger.com