tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post8053156403259996184..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Mandy Opens the Door to Brown-Cameron TV DebateIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger72125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-55749711751258380442009-07-30T15:54:26.889+01:002009-07-30T15:54:26.889+01:00There is no way on earth that Brown would agree to...There is no way on earth that Brown would agree to a debate. It's got nothing to do with the fact that he would be utterly stuffed (by Basil Brush or Emu, let alone by Cameron) but all to do with Brown being a coward. Bullying and cowardice (two sides of the same coin) are Brown's defining characteristics. Cameron understands this, and that is why he has thrown down the gauntlet. He doesn't want a debate, any more than he wanted an election in October 2007, but he calls for them because he understands Brown and wins the fight by exposing his cowardice.Chasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-82561736203973379672009-07-30T10:59:43.774+01:002009-07-30T10:59:43.774+01:00If the BBC had a genuine commitment to public serv...If the BBC had a genuine commitment to public service broadcasting (& some guts) they would say they were going to have a debate, put up 2 chairs, or 3 or 4 & let Brown decide whether to leave his empty.<br /><br />Sky could steal a march on them by doing so.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-59024995960521139902009-07-30T10:19:20.089+01:002009-07-30T10:19:20.089+01:00Very easy way to set up brown, set up the debate, ...Very easy way to set up brown, set up the debate, have a place for all the main parties lib/lab/con/ukip/greens etc and when the night rolls round and there is an empty podium where Brown should be....<br /><br />(it would have to be party leaders only, no sustitutes i.e Mandy)Stringyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15981360858546773845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-32476084820979286292009-07-30T09:13:56.629+01:002009-07-30T09:13:56.629+01:00laobur could tell lies about the tories- but look ...laobur could tell lies about the tories- but look at waht labour have said- Cameron said the tories would'nt cut spending on the NHS and david davis has said they would ,so who is lyingjohnpaulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03978755044345580501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-32423818333260224982009-07-29T22:38:11.899+01:002009-07-29T22:38:11.899+01:00Any chance of asking DC to commit to this sort of ...Any chance of asking DC to commit to this sort of prime-time debate leading up to future elections??<br /><br />Opposition leaders always seem to call for a debate, PMs always refuse! Can we pin him down on this and establish a new precedent - should be good for democracy, whichever party is in power.ian enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88540012495846922802009-07-29T21:17:24.616+01:002009-07-29T21:17:24.616+01:00Something smells fishy here, watch out for the sna...Something smells fishy here, watch out for the snake.<br /><br />What could Mandy gain by this ??kasouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10581410177492723605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44365219540217866592009-07-29T21:05:41.246+01:002009-07-29T21:05:41.246+01:00I was going to say something interesting, but my p...I was going to say something interesting, but my potatoes are boiling over and Dragons den is on...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-84601240938227763752009-07-29T20:15:38.221+01:002009-07-29T20:15:38.221+01:00Cameron has a 15-20% poll lead.
Why would he want ...Cameron has a 15-20% poll lead.<br />Why would he want to give Brown any opportunity to gain credence ?<br />Brown is on TV almost every day, and most of the electorate do not like what they see. <br />Labour would just see this as an opportunity for more dirty tricks and stunts. Whatever the result, the BBC "experts" would declare Brown the winner.<br />It looks as if the "media advisors" are trying to (over) cook this one up.Dimotonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-30214160666813963362009-07-29T20:13:51.560+01:002009-07-29T20:13:51.560+01:00Simon Heffer is a ranter. Best to ignore him.Simon Heffer is a ranter. Best to ignore him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-77936539745835664202009-07-29T20:08:42.378+01:002009-07-29T20:08:42.378+01:00And a letter from Cameron to ramp up the pressure ...And a letter from Cameron to ramp up the pressure on Brown and ensure another bad news cycle for Labour tomorrow.<br /><br />Brown refusing is just going to annoy the electorate and cost him even more come the election and as has been previously stated, he's now got Brown on the hook for PMQ's when Brown inevitably trots out the 'He never wants to debate the issues' line.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10904181998734097782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-9903106517589332862009-07-29T20:05:30.570+01:002009-07-29T20:05:30.570+01:00.....is the dark lord still batting for the other ........is the dark lord still batting for the other side ?<br /><br />.... blairs side ..that is ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-64538635061891962632009-07-29T19:59:59.935+01:002009-07-29T19:59:59.935+01:00Two socialists arguing about why our socialist eco...Two socialists arguing about why our socialist economy is collapsing hardly inspires me.<br />Couldn't they do a celebrity death match instead? Cameron could gouge out Brown's good eye, whilst Brown could attempt to find Cameron's balls and squeeze them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-89689568439409816822009-07-29T19:49:00.093+01:002009-07-29T19:49:00.093+01:00Farage would wipe the floor with Cameron or Brown....Farage would wipe the floor with Cameron or Brown.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63927322739031370402009-07-29T19:40:16.463+01:002009-07-29T19:40:16.463+01:00Of course if Mandelson takes over from Brown - and...Of course if Mandelson takes over from Brown - and that's possible - it would then be Mandelson vs Cameron.<br /><br />When might such a debate take place, before or after the Labour Party Conference?Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-86978671509857774732009-07-29T19:39:46.617+01:002009-07-29T19:39:46.617+01:00Don't over rate Mandy. He's an attacking g...Don't over rate Mandy. He's an attacking general, not a defensive one. Also he's fighting the second Gulf War with first Gulf War weapons. We're not still back in 1996.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-51219499148789678082009-07-29T19:38:10.344+01:002009-07-29T19:38:10.344+01:00@ golden_balls
"The snob and upper class tw*...@ golden_balls<br /><br />"The snob and upper class tw*t would come out And would compare rather well with a down to earth person"<br /><br />Usual Class War bollox. Inverted snobbery - as always.Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-29344124668305164872009-07-29T19:04:45.202+01:002009-07-29T19:04:45.202+01:00There is no possibility of a Brown/Cameron debate....There is no possibility of a Brown/Cameron debate. none whatsoever.<br /><br />Only an idiot would play to his most glaring, public weakness, which also happens to be his opponents most definable strength.<br /><br />The equivalent of attacking your enemy by wading across a river into a swamp, into a minefield, in full view of the enemy artillery, whilst unarmed.<br /><br />Lortd Mandelson knows better than this. He must have feared a trap question about 'courage'. I expect he thought he could say it today and it would be forgotten by next summer. But DC has written his letter. And GB will have to invent some nonsense to hide behind. 'Tradition' or 'cheapening democracy' probably.Bill Quango MPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14861116614665461655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-34553991303884305082009-07-29T19:00:14.650+01:002009-07-29T19:00:14.650+01:00Speaking of live debates, I would highly recommend...Speaking of live debates, I would highly recommend a live debate between David Cameron and Simon Heffer, chaired by yours truly Iain Dale.<br /><br />Now that would be really worth watching as compared to a live debate between Cameron and Brown. <br /><br />You know it makes sense Iain, please make it happen. :-)<br /><br />Seriously!Edhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13107845101737790640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57862046879880065152009-07-29T18:15:10.391+01:002009-07-29T18:15:10.391+01:00Why on earth does Brown need Mandy's approval?...Why on earth does Brown need Mandy's approval? It's nothing to do with him!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-69848302270060523252009-07-29T18:11:10.889+01:002009-07-29T18:11:10.889+01:00Mandy is playing silly buggers in order to put pre...Mandy is playing silly buggers in order to put pressure on Gordo.Should we get ready for Tony's boy to have another go or will he be firing blanks again?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-23968365765595777442009-07-29T17:57:54.507+01:002009-07-29T17:57:54.507+01:00What about the lib dems, they deserve to be on the...What about the lib dems, they deserve to be on the same platformNicki UK (Trans Authoress)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16735593460822074182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-61479678057428875682009-07-29T17:31:27.851+01:002009-07-29T17:31:27.851+01:00Why should Mandy try to undermine Gordon, when he ...Why should Mandy try to undermine Gordon, when he can get Dave to assassinate him instead?Joe Publicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-66118263666928891152009-07-29T17:10:22.176+01:002009-07-29T17:10:22.176+01:00With Mike Smithson wondering if this is the start ...With Mike Smithson wondering if this is the start of the PM4PM campaign, this is fascinating. Strange thing to say, too. Mandy will know of Brown's insistence that such a debate will not happen. To openly cross him in this way strikes me as more than just a mistake from a politician as astute as Mandleson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-52090036472681696452009-07-29T16:58:16.903+01:002009-07-29T16:58:16.903+01:00Just sets up yet another put down at PMQs. Brown: ...Just sets up yet another put down at PMQs. Brown: "He never wants to debate policy". DC: "Oh yes I do but the PM won't." etc. Brown is really determined to close every door, its just plain weird. He lost the cuts/spending debate. Now he is conceding the substance debate. What a loser.Davidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-70603674740789046532009-07-29T16:49:58.043+01:002009-07-29T16:49:58.043+01:00I am looking forward to watching this.I am looking forward to watching this.Kalvis Jansonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13379157181034658841noreply@blogger.com