tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post7938307971106980963..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Des Browne: Knowing Your Own Policy Is Very Much Like Making Love to a Beautiful Woman...Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-50927605297982856102007-10-18T13:53:00.000+01:002007-10-18T13:53:00.000+01:00Atlas,If what you say were really true, I am sure ...Atlas,<BR/><BR/>If what you say were really true, I am sure Her Maj would not leave her soldiers in such dire straits. And yes, they are hers, in name. But her government in Parliament controls the purse strings and there's little she can do about it.<BR/><BR/>As to Mr Browne's slight departure from the truth. Let's allow that it was because he is incompetent. After all, lying to parliament is a resignation offence (or at least it was until this shower of Richards took over).The Remittance Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13104149259707414863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-27840581083309787272007-10-18T10:09:00.000+01:002007-10-18T10:09:00.000+01:00This is a none starter story Iain...Yawn againNo, ...<I>This is a none starter story Iain...Yawn again</I><BR/><BR/>No, you're a troll.<BR/><BR/>misleading the house may be a non-story to the congenital liars you call your masters, but not to most people. <BR/><BR/>meretricious little tick.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-36978160254568131002007-10-17T20:27:00.000+01:002007-10-17T20:27:00.000+01:00These are ministers of an elected government you a...These are ministers of an elected government you are talking about.<BR/><BR/>Who gave you the idea that elected governments have much if anything to do with what is happening in the Middle East? Please don't tell me the BBC. If you have not worked out by now what a pile of lying propaganda the BBC has always been, you never will. <BR/><BR/>Our troops fight for the interests of the Crown not the British government. They always have and always will it seems. If the interests of both turn out to be the same then it is simply good fortune, nothing more. <BR/><BR/>If someone can give me a date when the British armed forces started fighting for the British people and not our commander in chief and most gracious Lady, I would love to know when it was. Because I know a lot of history, but that one must have completely passed me by.<BR/><BR/>Des Browne I can assure you has not much more control over what the British armed forces do in the middle east, then you Iain. One thing Des Browne does know for sure is that his government have absolutely no sensible choice's in the matter at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-30426962342678851912007-10-17T19:18:00.000+01:002007-10-17T19:18:00.000+01:00What a surprise! Des Brown is just another totally...What a surprise! Des Brown is just another totally incompetant member of the parliamentary jockanese mafia. I wish they'd all sod off back north of the border and run their own little patch of hills and heather into the dust.Skirt wearing perverts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87356480338757256642007-10-17T18:43:00.000+01:002007-10-17T18:43:00.000+01:00Des Brown is the Defence Secretary (God help us) s...Des Brown is the Defence Secretary (God help us) so what troops serving in war zones receive which allowances is something he OUGHT to know. Obviously he had no idea - doesn't know, doesn't care. <BR/><BR/>Question - does he know where Iraq and Kuwait actually are?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-37981104712283887372007-10-17T18:21:00.000+01:002007-10-17T18:21:00.000+01:00Iain, I think you've got it wrong. Des Browne was...Iain, I think you've got it wrong. Des Browne was arguing that Kuwait isn't actually next to Iraq. This is the 'untruth' he speaks of.<BR/><BR/>He's so ignorant, this really shouldn't surprise anyone.<BR/><BR/>The real villian, however, is Gordon Brown who clearly cares so little for our armed forces that he puts an imbecile like this in charge of them. <BR/><BR/>Des Browne is the new John Prescott.Scary Biscuitshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03039289019338752778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76771391990550227412007-10-17T18:11:00.000+01:002007-10-17T18:11:00.000+01:00Yes this Browne person is a man who is doing two, ...Yes this Browne person is a man who is doing two, or more, jobs. Very badly indeed.<BR/><BR/>He is loathed by the military - with every good reason. That loathing is based on two things, Browne's clear incompetence and his history of continual deception and dissimulation. He is simply not trusted. <BR/><BR/>Quite what the Scots make of him I really don't know, and I'm not sure that I care, either.Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-8359260729117227322007-10-17T18:08:00.000+01:002007-10-17T18:08:00.000+01:00Iain,Let us not forget we are talking about our me...Iain,<BR/><BR/>Let us not forget we are talking about our men and women in War situations. We are also talking about<BR/>a small amount of money to you, your friends and parliamentarians BUT to the men and women of our forces it is a lot!<BR/><BR/>I could not care less for the niceties of the house of commons BUT I DO care for our armed forces who get a bloody poor salary and are being used as pawns in this sordid little game of schoolyard politics.<BR/><BR/>The Sec of State has said they will be paid. THAT is the only way to look at this.strapworldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18228784526399929300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-64092385358392628712007-10-17T18:01:00.000+01:002007-10-17T18:01:00.000+01:00"Er, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, they're all the same, are..."Er, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, they're all the same, aren't they? I didn't want defence, I wanted to be a LUMBERJACK!"<BR/><BR/>Des Browne (or possibly someone else), as overheard by Clothilde Simon<BR/><BR/>P.S. "ngznwzd" is a Polish swear-word, isn't it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-26873969988910378432007-10-17T18:00:00.000+01:002007-10-17T18:00:00.000+01:00Hattersley? hmmm... isnt he the thick plank who ha...Hattersley? hmmm... isnt he the thick plank who had to go begging to the IMF because he made a train wreck of the UK economy? Oh no, that was Healy wasnt it? And now they are playing at "elder statesmen"? That pair of thick oafs brought Britain to her knees with their Stalinist economic training! They should have spent the rest of their lives in the tower of london!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-75899655587499970342007-10-17T17:46:00.000+01:002007-10-17T17:46:00.000+01:00Non starter it may be but this is important. I wo...Non starter it may be but this is important. I would also be generous and deduce he is clearly unaware of his own policy. A liar I am content Mr Browne is not: a Def Sec who has too many other jobs when his country is at war he clearly is. He should be seized with not just understanding but implementing his primary and crucial policies. He has a duty to commit to our troops, their families, the bereaved and injured nearly as many hours in the day as they are fighting, worrying and supporting. I have been impressed in some areas, not all, by Mr Browne. Dr Fox should therefore refrain from asking administrative trivia he knows already that can be sorted out with cameras off and moreover challenge the Government on why the resources, cash and time to do more for our boys is being led by a Def Sec with more than one job. Dr Fox could champion the cause of the injured, I understand he had visited our boys, and expose to the British Public about what our lads are doing in foreign fields. I couldn't agree more with Ted...oh for the want of some homework Dr Fox. Be careful before the troop train leaves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-9150449927802719662007-10-17T17:26:00.000+01:002007-10-17T17:26:00.000+01:00Hattersley is a never has-been and therfeore bitte...Hattersley is a never has-been and therfeore bitter.Madasafishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06109237198481955714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57875959150278035132007-10-17T17:23:00.000+01:002007-10-17T17:23:00.000+01:00Anyone hear Hattersley today (R4 9 am, Freedland's...Anyone hear Hattersley today (R4 9 am, Freedland's programme) saying that PMQ's is entirely trivial, nothing whatever to do with Real Hairy Chested Men's Politics (I paraphrase wildly) and only of concern to the more hysterical sketch writers and of absolutely no relevance or concern to anyone else at all (I only paraphrase slightly). <BR/><BR/>So much for the respect for the dignity of the House of Commons from the Right Hon spitting image of a has-been, the former deputy to Neil Kinnoch. <BR/><BR/>This senior member of the Labour Party joins Blair, the object of his own visceral enmity, in his contempt for those who would dare question a minister. <BR/><BR/>Thus is Parliamentary democracy honoured by those - like Hattersley - who pray it and its traditions in aid when they are fighting off calls for a refendum.Prodicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18024865482933469271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-38119726157467351642007-10-17T17:18:00.000+01:002007-10-17T17:18:00.000+01:00Wouldn't a little preparation by Dr Fox (or his ab...Wouldn't a little preparation by Dr Fox (or his able assistants) have been good - it would have been a killer response to Browne to say "so when did the policy change from that in the written reply of...".<BR/><BR/>For want of a bit of homework....Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15932284926532855700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-53820996518645292362007-10-17T16:57:00.000+01:002007-10-17T16:57:00.000+01:00The current word verification is "vpfuctk". I onl...The current word verification is "vpfuctk". I only mention it because it is at best very close to limit of the house rules re: acceptable language. I must confess I am very slightly offended by the word.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13775753218753337766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-77032179072596103142007-10-17T16:53:00.000+01:002007-10-17T16:53:00.000+01:00How about a law that makes it illegal for MP's to ...How about a law that makes it illegal for MP's to knowingly LIE to parliament or the country? It's common for the commisars to lie through their teeth AND getaway with it!<BR/><BR/>PS Will Cameron make it clear to his MP's that queue jumping in any form will not be tolerated in the estate?<BR/>If the NULAB commisars want to push their way to the front of queues then more fool them!<BR/><BR/>PPS Your current picture is very handsome so please dont change it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-32157355736441581022007-10-17T16:41:00.000+01:002007-10-17T16:41:00.000+01:00i sense another astroturfer trying to fertilise an...i sense another astroturfer trying to fertilise and artificial lawnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-61742731621937439632007-10-17T16:33:00.000+01:002007-10-17T16:33:00.000+01:00Yes correct Iain a "little elongated"...Yawn. Sti...Yes correct Iain a "little elongated"...Yawn. <BR/><BR/>Still waiting for this site to acknowledge Cambos poverty speech of yesterday. Think we will be waiting, as his party goes off to the right, auld Cambo is still harping on about flowers and the trees and the birdies etc etc. <BR/><BR/>This Des Browne scoop. We're you and iain bloggers all looking for the head of Liam Fox a few weeks ago.<BR/><BR/>This is a none starter story Iain...Yawn againAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com