tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post7777774338784172417..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Pounding the DepthsIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger89125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2701336312259287332009-07-31T13:53:42.199+01:002009-07-31T13:53:42.199+01:00jon dee kicked off this comments page by advising ...jon dee kicked off this comments page by advising that "anyone who took offence ought to grow up". Who are this army of superior, mature people who infest all the blogs in the Anglosphere advising other people to "grow up"? What is it about the term that enamours them so? The chance to feel superior to at least someone, even if it's only a person they know nothing about?indenctVeritynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-26923869349940166422009-07-31T13:49:43.529+01:002009-07-31T13:49:43.529+01:00Chuck Unsworth writes, "However, you seem not...Chuck Unsworth writes, "However, you seem not to 'understand' that many 'disagree' with your pronouncements -".<br /><br />No. I do understand that many disagree with me. That's what we have blogs for.Veritynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1637989506510388322009-07-31T12:16:03.997+01:002009-07-31T12:16:03.997+01:00Dave Cameron member of Bullingdon Club - so what!Dave Cameron member of Bullingdon Club - so what!Ed Ballsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-86071219862486028422009-07-31T09:26:17.491+01:002009-07-31T09:26:17.491+01:00@ Verity
I think most here probably 'understo...@ Verity<br /><br />I think most here probably 'understood'. However, you seem not to 'understand' that many 'disagree' with your pronouncements - 'irony' notwithstanding.Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-3440899694254875822009-07-31T08:55:27.255+01:002009-07-31T08:55:27.255+01:00Twat is not an offensive word! In fact, it is unde...Twat is not an offensive word! In fact, it is underused.<br /><br />July 31, 2009 12:48 AM<br /><br />especially in the case of despairing liberal.Mike huntnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-8571912404388677432009-07-31T00:48:31.124+01:002009-07-31T00:48:31.124+01:00Twat is not an offensive word! In fact, it is unde...Twat is not an offensive word! In fact, it is underused.Magical_Misthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07446193963152993371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-39161108524094916822009-07-30T23:26:37.744+01:002009-07-30T23:26:37.744+01:00The Absolute rado team blogged at the time that Ca...<i>The Absolute rado team blogged at the time that Cameron didn't seem to know what it meant, because he was too posh, which may be true.</i><br /><br />Anyone who believed that of David Cameron would have to be an utter twat...<br /><br />And how interesting that the Daily Mirror thought that one word was a "rant"? They didn't really. Meaning the Mirror is staffed by twats.Martin Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04148241391183658112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-84850931708639869552009-07-30T23:22:53.871+01:002009-07-30T23:22:53.871+01:00Golden Balls @ July 30, 2009 1:03 PM
"If thi...Golden Balls @ July 30, 2009 1:03 PM<br /><br />"If this would have been the pm you would have accused brown of disgracing himself "<br /><br />Well old chap, Brown disgraces himself for every day, hour and minute he is Prime Minster, with the current policies he is undertaking, we will all unemployed, poor and the country will be bankrupt.<br /><br />labour's disgrace speaks for itself – e.g. their disgusting treatment of our men and women in our armed forces, those who work for Queen and Country deserve better than the treatment melted out by this regime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-49245189648988030612009-07-30T23:16:39.145+01:002009-07-30T23:16:39.145+01:00Chuck Unsworth et al - I'm sorry I didn't ...Chuck Unsworth et al - I'm sorry I didn't write in simple enough language for you to understand. Or perhaps your teacher hasn't got to "irony" yet.<br /><br />Trevorsden, this is also directed at you.Veritynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54904736212063020082009-07-30T22:40:35.762+01:002009-07-30T22:40:35.762+01:00Anonymong 8:30 - do you seriously in your deluded ...Anonymong 8:30 - do you seriously in your deluded anti-Beeb hysterical state "think" that the Beeb deliberately places in the relevant Labour spokespeople according to some bizarre ritual leftie-bias hidden machine? They are put up by Labour HQ.<br /><br />Some of you beeb bashers are straightforwardly f**k*** mental - it's like a disease.<br /><br />Does it come on from having read to much Hitchens? You do realise he was a full-on Trot in his youth don't you? Once a trot, always a trot.DespairingLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903904463236135611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-22095699566515338432009-07-30T20:30:53.103+01:002009-07-30T20:30:53.103+01:00Does the Beeb realise that using that twit 'Re...Does the Beeb realise that using that twit 'Rent-a-Gob Pound does so much for the Tory cause? What a (pr)at.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-26985643275619114052009-07-30T20:20:24.173+01:002009-07-30T20:20:24.173+01:00Verity, if you saw David Cameron walking over the ...Verity, if you saw David Cameron walking over the Thames, you would say it was only because he couldn't swim.Knutnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57174305691834438032009-07-30T20:12:57.501+01:002009-07-30T20:12:57.501+01:00I wonder what Coulson will come up with next in th...I wonder what Coulson will come up with next in the "Sweary Blokey Dave" thing? Maybe he should get him to gob on the street in public.DespairingLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02903904463236135611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-55809022893628028962009-07-30T19:20:09.529+01:002009-07-30T19:20:09.529+01:00Seventy odd comments about Cameron saying "tw...Seventy odd comments about Cameron saying "twat", not one about the Fifeshire Feartie refusing to saying "sorry".<br />It must be the start of the silly season!Barnacle Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17257546424880537005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-32564215998537068682009-07-30T18:20:40.717+01:002009-07-30T18:20:40.717+01:00"Cameron has contributed to a further coarsen...<i>"Cameron has contributed to a further coarsening of society."</i><br />Rubbish. He may be reflecting the attitudes and language of wider society, though. No doubt you'd prefer him to talk to everyone like some sort of Patrician orator, only then you'd complain that he was patronising and remote.<br /><br /><i>"This kind of language is fine within one's circle, but shouldn't be <b>forced on</b> people who may have more self-restraint, and more extensive vocabularies."</i><br />Garbage. 'One's circle' WTF is that? Next up, Soirees. Nobody is 'forcing' anyone to do anything here. There's always the Off Button.<br /><br /><i>"This confirms to me that Cameron is a nasty piece of work."</i> <br />The customary Verity animus.<br /><br /><i>"Don't tell me this wasn't deliberate - to make himself look angry and to make himself sound like the way he imagines the proles talk."</i><br />So, where's your evidence of it being 'deliberate'? Where's any evidence at all about what he imagines of 'the proles' (your choice of term)?<br /><br /><i>"Lady Finchley 'twit' is the term used to describe a stupid nitwit. Cameron's deliberate use of the coarse version was deliberate because this is how he thinks the "little people" talk amongst themselves. Whereas "the little people" maintain higher standards of behaviour and language than Dave's group. Badly behaved, drunken, destructive yobs are called "yobs". In Dave's group, they're called Bullingdon Boys."</i><br />Hilarious. I'm a 'little person' - and I think you're talking complete bollox.<br /><br />As I've said here before, those who choose to attack styles of speech are not interested in content. They merely wish to control by attacking irrelevancies.Unsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08307116169498533047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-51868925742810629472009-07-30T17:39:43.090+01:002009-07-30T17:39:43.090+01:00I knew Precious Pound at Hertford Grammar School. ...I knew Precious Pound at Hertford Grammar School. At that time he was not called Steven and his politics was somewhat to the right of his position as a New Labour MP<br /><br />At the time of the 1964 Election he stood as an independent, maverick candidate and for a week or so I was his agent. We fell out over something but I do not remember what.<br /><br />He was a joker even then. He would gather public meetings during the lunch break and baffle us all by speaking in Latin. <br />I had no idea whether he was talking sense.<br /><br />In a way he has never really matured. His quirky sense of humour seems to have held him back from being anything more than a PPS or a summer holiday backstopKenneth Mortonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-35815525451744496702009-07-30T17:28:33.764+01:002009-07-30T17:28:33.764+01:00Oh dear Verity you will go to any lengths to derid...Oh dear Verity you will go to any lengths to deride Cameron - just who would suit you as a party leader?? And which party. <br />Cameron is a nasty piece of work??? Last time I saw a thread from you he was too weak too soft. <br />Now he is too nasty. Who ever you are 'verity' -- I doubt anyone can take you seriously.<br /><br />"Tony Blair attended one of the most expensive and exclusive public schools in Scotland." -- a fact which shoots down any Labour 'toff' taunts.<br /><br />And BTW - Harriet Harman is the daughter of a Harley St doctor and her mother was a solicitor and her grandfather a group captain in the RAF and her great grandfather came from a family of wealthy paper merchants (it became the largest and most productive paper company in the world). <br />She too went to an independent school (so posh it had Gustav Holst as its music director).<br />Ms Harman stinks of wealth and privilege.<br /><br />And of course Michael Foot went to private school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-23835504391505486682009-07-30T17:23:31.293+01:002009-07-30T17:23:31.293+01:00Verity said.
Whereas "the little people"...Verity said.<br />Whereas "the little people" maintain higher standards of behaviour and language than Dave's group.<br /><br />You mean pixies?Mike huntnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-24573091540554821882009-07-30T17:11:19.475+01:002009-07-30T17:11:19.475+01:00Apologies, rather off topic. I see the politically...Apologies, rather off topic. I see the politically correct donkeys who rule us are <a href="http://maninthestreetblog.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">censoring the Union flag</a> now. They're a delicate bunch of flowers. Idiots.Man in the Streethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14797366182642984040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57100290058890119512009-07-30T17:01:08.182+01:002009-07-30T17:01:08.182+01:00Lady Finchley 'twit' is the term used to d...Lady Finchley 'twit' is the term used to describe a stupid nitwit. Cameron's deliberate use of the coarse version was deliberate because this is how he thinks the "little people" talk amongst themselves. Whereas "the little people" maintain higher standards of behaviour and language than Dave's group. Badly behaved, drunken, destructive yobs are called "yobs". In Dave's group, they're called Bullingdon Boys.Veritynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88931430332222139302009-07-30T16:42:45.925+01:002009-07-30T16:42:45.925+01:00Pound obviously reads Conservative Home as his com...Pound obviously reads Conservative Home as his comment was lifted root and branch from something someone wrote on there!Sally Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02992827580297765832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-43062471439157283482009-07-30T16:37:08.373+01:002009-07-30T16:37:08.373+01:00Since when was the word "Twat" a swear w...Since when was the word "Twat" a swear word?? Presumably only in the eyes of the BBC and the left wing since Cameron used it.<br />What I do find offensive is the number of real swear words on the BBC usually uttered by people who are paid millions of pounds to say them.<br />I think Cameron should use the word frequently; the left would get worked up into a frenzy to such a state that even their own working class supporters would realise how d**** stupid they were being.Brian E.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-50839161339347135062009-07-30T16:32:32.101+01:002009-07-30T16:32:32.101+01:00Cameron has contributed to a further coarsening of...Cameron has contributed to a further coarsening of society. This kind of language is fine within one's circle, but shouldn't be forced on people who may have more self-restraint, and more extensive vocabularies.<br /><br />This confirms to me that Cameron is a nasty piece of work. Don't tell me this wasn't deliberate - to make himself look angry and to make himself sound like the way he imagines the proles talk.Veritynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-61665096316442996292009-07-30T16:22:11.482+01:002009-07-30T16:22:11.482+01:00I have always been amazed by the common use of the...I have always been amazed by the common use of the word 'twat' in the UK...until I realised that in this country it is used to describe a jerk. In the States it is used to describe a part of the female anatomy and is NEVER uttered in polite company let alone on television although it was employed with some hilarity in an episode of Denis Leary's brilliant 'Rescue Me'. In that episode the FDNY boys were hauled off to an equality class with even more hilarious consequences with the Hispanic firefighter complaining that the Hispanics only had one ethnic slur pertaining to them while the Irish had dozens - which they happily named, with Italian, Jewish, German and Black ones thrown in for good measure. <br /><br />Moral of the story - lighten up, Pound!Lady Finchleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03695379463537122656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-43872897027977044622009-07-30T16:20:18.238+01:002009-07-30T16:20:18.238+01:00No legs?
Not the story I listened to on the radio...No legs?<br /><br />Not the story I listened to on the radio this morning.<br /><br />Dave was wasted and not becoming of the next Prme Minister.<br /><br />In your dreams, Dave, keep up the good work.Gary Elsbynoreply@blogger.com