tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post7569861631138412947..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: First The Queen, Now the Iron LadyIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-70654869944280303082007-03-21T16:22:00.000+00:002007-03-21T16:22:00.000+00:00By describing the three week period between the Ta...By describing the three week period between the Task Force leaving Britain and its arrival in the South Atlantic as "before the war" the BBC is deploying the standard leftist hogwash that the war was started by Mrs Thatcher's order to sink the General Belgrano on 2 May 1982. Having been invaded and occupied by Argentina on 2 April 1982 I doubt many Falkland Islanders regarded that period as 'pre-war'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-35477127792693761072007-03-21T15:00:00.000+00:002007-03-21T15:00:00.000+00:00Ian,You were even quoted in a Dutch newspaper conc...Ian,<BR/><BR/>You were even quoted in a Dutch newspaper concerning this picture. Mind you, it was one the free papers given away at the trainstations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-8119403024830556882007-03-21T00:25:00.000+00:002007-03-21T00:25:00.000+00:00arthur scargill. hero of the left in the 80s funny...arthur scargill. hero of the left in the 80s funny how nobody in the labour party mentions him nowadays. airbrushed out of the leftoid mindset like Trotsky.<BR/><BR/>and yet, on the right, we have statue to Thatcher in the Commons, and maybe a HMS Thatcher in the future.<BR/><BR/>that says it all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-78175809432969196762007-03-20T14:53:00.000+00:002007-03-20T14:53:00.000+00:00Ah Fanny Craddock ... that'll have been good pract...Ah Fanny Craddock ... that'll have been good practice for them. Cooking up something rather unpalatable while some Johnnie minces about in the background on the G&Ts. Just the ticket.<BR/><BR/>Presumably they'll call it Gotcha! ?? You read it here first. But not from Iain.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-580691801963386522007-03-20T14:25:00.000+00:002007-03-20T14:25:00.000+00:00It would have to be about the 17 days leading up t...It would have to be about the 17 days leading up to the Falklands War. Anything even slightly earlier than that...David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-46378801554845115372007-03-20T11:59:00.000+00:002007-03-20T11:59:00.000+00:00The money men must have looked at her popilarity f...The money men must have looked at her popilarity figures & decided thais has good chance of working. That is an important lesson.<BR/><BR/>I am not sure the 3 hour version is a good idea. There is a an old showbiz rule - always leave them wanting more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-29051764967993833412007-03-20T11:48:00.000+00:002007-03-20T11:48:00.000+00:00"Blair, the grovelling yes-man who couldn't say no..."Blair, the grovelling yes-man who couldn't say no to Bush."<BR/><BR/>by contrast, Thatcher stood up to the Americans - Galtieri was their ally, and Reagan really wasnt in favour of the British sending a taskforce to reclaim the islands. He preferred doing diplomacy with a fascist.<BR/><BR/>i would guess that her status in American circles went through the stratosphere because of her decision to stand up for Britain. <BR/><BR/>unlike "yo Blair"...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-75824739097892138652007-03-20T11:44:00.000+00:002007-03-20T11:44:00.000+00:00heard your Today interview this morning. you came ...heard your Today interview this morning. you came across quite well Iain, but "Today" in their usual dumbed down schoolboy Marxism put you up against a Thatcher impressionist. (they never loose a chance to have a go at her)<BR/><BR/>it was utterly bizarre. the topic was something as serious the Falklands War, not comedy sketch shows. <BR/><BR/>why didnt they put you up against an Argentine General or a pro-Galtieri nationalist? they really have entered the world of loopy loopy land.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/listenagain/ram/today4_thatcher_20070320.ram" REL="nofollow">Here's the direct link to the interview</A> from this morning - realplayer required.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-16014440387463050242007-03-20T06:58:00.000+00:002007-03-20T06:58:00.000+00:00What are the odds Helen Mirren won't be offered fi...What are the odds Helen Mirren won't be offered first shot at the role. Do you think she'll take it?<BR/><BR/>"Prime Minister: Queen 2.0"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-15149386743725705942007-03-20T03:02:00.000+00:002007-03-20T03:02:00.000+00:00The consensus appears to be either hero worship or...The consensus appears to be either hero worship or a hatchet job. Is there no Third Way?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-65739184087473654812007-03-20T02:32:00.000+00:002007-03-20T02:32:00.000+00:00This is great news, as when this is made, a movie ...This is great news, as when this is made, a movie about Maggie Thatcher prior to Falklands, the next logical movie with be about Blair, prior to war in Iraq.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Blair, the grovelling yes-man who couldn't say no to Bush. How they "fixed facts around a policy." The dodgy dossiers and the lies to satisfy Bush. How one man betrayed two nations to put his sychophantic admiration for Bush before everything else.<BR/><BR/>I think that actor who played vanity Blair so camply in The Queen should be cast. What better tribute to Blair's legacy could there be? Other than a war crimes tribunal of course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-71428346247846067112007-03-20T02:09:00.000+00:002007-03-20T02:09:00.000+00:00CatoActually there was serious consideration of ge...Cato<BR/>Actually there was serious consideration of getting rid of the Falkland Islands.During the early years of the Thatcher government a cross party delegation of MPs visited the islands including Ian Gow,Thatcher's loyal lieutenant,and recommended handing the islands back to Argentina.Manfaranghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16672026288937285646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-15559167480053204532007-03-20T00:12:00.000+00:002007-03-20T00:12:00.000+00:00The daily politics show is organising a poll on P...The daily politics show is organising a poll on PMs and seems to be trying hard to get atlee voted for above Thatcher.<BR/><BR/>The main difference between the two PMs is that whereas both made a lot of changes to the UK economy, most of atlee's work has had to be reversed and most of Thatcher's has not only been left unchanged but adopted by much of the rest of the developed world.<BR/><BR/>Thatcher 1, beeb 0.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-52964951589277533872007-03-20T00:00:00.000+00:002007-03-20T00:00:00.000+00:00She was of course a great woman but she was also r...She was of course a great woman but she was also rather funny and capable of gently self deprecation quite at odds with the BBC`s retrospective demonisation.<BR/><BR/>I think myself that such symbols are important. Despite wining every economic ideological and political debate you can imagine in the 80s in the end it was still the Conservative party who were the nasty Party. This was because the left had iron control over popular and especially youth culture.Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-45050212284718669992007-03-19T23:55:00.000+00:002007-03-19T23:55:00.000+00:00I have just purchased the book of Thatcherania tha...I have just purchased the book of Thatcherania that you edited. tell me is it any good or should in just glance at the pictures and leave it out to annoy my wife`s trendy friends.<BR/><BR/>Also when is the three hour biopic of Iain Dale coming out. It might not be all that fastmoving but the sight of aman motionless by a computer for ,say ,24 hours, would have an interesting Art event impact .<BR/><BR/><BR/>( Or is it all this just a "front" for your thrilling life of espionage and ...but then you wouldn`t say would you ...)Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-20767081130467110892007-03-19T23:01:00.000+00:002007-03-19T23:01:00.000+00:00I speak as someone who did his teenage homework un...I speak as someone who did his teenage homework under camping gas light thanks to the unions, the three day week and the weak Conservative government of Ted Heath R.I.P.<BR/><BR/>Margaret Thatcher re-defined political leadership in the post WWII period. As yet, no-one has managed to challenge that re-definition.<BR/><BR/>I met her once, when she was still in office and I was just another Conservative foot soldier. Despite her elevated status, she made me feel very special. Isn't that a measure of greatness?<BR/><BR/>Maybe it will only be when she is no longer with use, that people will be comfortable in referring her as "great"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-47165461566746902152007-03-19T22:22:00.000+00:002007-03-19T22:22:00.000+00:00"What I am waiting for is a full two, but preferab..."What I am waiting for is a full two, but preferably three, hour biopic!"<BR/><BR/>Iain - you're a sad sad manAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-15965160087319353492007-03-19T21:41:00.000+00:002007-03-19T21:41:00.000+00:00although being dead "we" wont see italthough being dead "we" wont see itThe Hitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17007793676288933155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-22275787373805518182007-03-19T21:40:00.000+00:002007-03-19T21:40:00.000+00:00Who on earth could play Lady T?NOBODY!It's a total...Who on earth could play Lady T?<BR/>NOBODY!<BR/>It's a total travesty.<BR/>She is unique in every way, spirit, voice,gravitas and eminence.<BR/>We have never seen her like before and it will probably be a long time after all our deaths before we see another .The Hitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17007793676288933155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87739035565967024832007-03-19T21:18:00.000+00:002007-03-19T21:18:00.000+00:00I still prefer the 2002 Archer spoof movie that ha...I still prefer the 2002 Archer spoof movie that had Greta Scacchi playing Madame.<BR/><BR/>"The Lady IS for turning" sex scene is the funniest piece of television in years, although I imagine our host rather disapproved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72960888624012777932007-03-19T20:43:00.000+00:002007-03-19T20:43:00.000+00:00I still think "The Falklands Play" was bloody bril...I still think "The Falklands Play" was bloody brilliant (http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/features/the_falklands_play.shtml). They'd have to go a long way to beat that. Patricia Hodge caught brilliantly Maggie's iron determination not to abandon the Falklanders in the face of aggression by that bully Galtieri, as well as her genuine anguish at what she was asking our boys to do on behalf of the nation.trinitylawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07106413502182893622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40840396878259156442007-03-19T20:17:00.000+00:002007-03-19T20:17:00.000+00:00It's a shame that the BBC is involved in the propo...It's a shame that the BBC is involved in the proposed film rather than it just being a US affair. (No doubt Maggie will be portrayed as slightly more evil than Hitler.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-68978776489330212272007-03-19T19:49:00.000+00:002007-03-19T19:49:00.000+00:00Off topic, but woth reading:http://www.guardian.co...Off topic, but woth reading:<BR/><BR/>http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2037860,00.html<BR/><BR/>"Brown as leader would be gift to Tories - The scale of the challenge facing Gordon Brown is underlined in a Guardian/ICM poll today, which shows he would hand the Tories a 15-point lead if he headed the party at the next election."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-42278279246456874122007-03-19T19:39:00.000+00:002007-03-19T19:39:00.000+00:00"What I am waiting for is a full two, but preferab..."What I am waiting for is a full two, but preferably three, hour biopic!"<BR/><BR/>That would very much depend on who made the film. Film producers here and in the States are not known for unobjective productions. There are millions of half-wits in Britain who still prefer Spitting Image's portrayal of Margaret Thatcher to the factual one.The Amazing Toadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04269683258775831265noreply@blogger.com