tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post7417270278571165192..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Afternoon Open ThreadIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-32203005007395488622009-06-07T19:41:24.641+01:002009-06-07T19:41:24.641+01:00OT: Pakistan 37/1 after 5 overs chasing 186 in the...OT: Pakistan 37/1 after 5 overs chasing 186 in the Twenty20.<br /><br />Anyone else think its strange that the BBC do a "live text commentary" basically some bloke in London watching Sky and text commenting on their commentary and we pay for that. They do it for F1 (ok that's now on the beeb) but also football, rugby, tennis, etc. <br /><br />They've run out of ways to spend money.<br /><br />And cricinfo is better.Bardirecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12167919762034389133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-7232170052384296502009-06-07T18:38:12.198+01:002009-06-07T18:38:12.198+01:00If you believed in a Government having a social an...If you believed in a Government having a social and welfare policy similar to that offered by the Labour Party led by Harold Wilson in the 1960s, if you felt the same way as Hugh Gaitskill did about Europe in the 1950s, if you believed in supporting lame duck industries such as coal and steel as proposed by Tony Benn in the 1970s. If you loathe Gordon Brown and whole nulab project as much as you loathe the Tories. If you are white, semi-skilled or unemployed or concerned about you job, then I can see how people voted for the BNP.<br /><br />Just for information, I loathe, old Labour, New Labour, the BNP and the equally National Socialist inclined Greens.Sandy Jamiesonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-87030321383013699212009-06-07T18:17:51.972+01:002009-06-07T18:17:51.972+01:00@ Norton
"Anyone who can make a statement li...@ Norton<br /><br />"Anyone who can make a statement like that is as narrow minded and bigoted as the BNP."<br /><br />Nonesense.<br /><br />A vote for a party that limit's it's membership by race is, by, definition, racist.<br /><br />Anyone who voted and did not know that is, by definition, stupid.Paul Halsallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602075031268155220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-8673980549312148832009-06-07T18:13:22.959+01:002009-06-07T18:13:22.959+01:00Mentioned this on another post, but it really shou...Mentioned this on another post, but it really should be here: I was talking to Nigel Farage on Friday. He was at the Westminster Arms and he gave me 2min. He said:<br /><br />1. Legal challenge over badly folded ballot papers in Yorkshire & Southeast<br />2. He think's Labour will get 18% of the vote<br />3. He thinks UKIP will definitely beat Labour, but wouldn't be drawn on figure<br />4. LibDems might save Labour from humiliation as they are hemorrhaging votes to the Greens<br /><br />There you go!Oberon Houstonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08347917387896412711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-83663480503613193102009-06-07T18:10:43.808+01:002009-06-07T18:10:43.808+01:00" Paul Halsall said...
@Norton Folgate
I r..." Paul Halsall said... <br />@Norton Folgate <br /><br />I realise this is a counsel of perfection, but people who vote should be able to identify who they are voting for. <br /><br />It would not happen in our system, but, I would have held my nose and voted for Chirac vs. La Pen (as did the vast majority of French leftists).<br /><br /><br /> Anyone who voted for the BNP was either Racist or Stupid, but most probably both." <br /><br /><br />Anyone who can make a statement like that is as narrow minded and bigoted as the BNP.Norton Folgatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03852825967140111979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-20601073730589235452009-06-07T17:39:04.180+01:002009-06-07T17:39:04.180+01:00For those caravan lovers out there wondering what ...For those caravan lovers out there wondering what happened to Margaret Beckett, aAccording to this morning's Observer...<br /><br /><i>It also emerged last night that Margaret Beckett, the veteran housing minister, was summarily sacked by Gordon Brown after also making clear that she wanted to become a full cabinet member. One former colleague said there was shock at the way Beckett, one of Labour’s most senior and well-respected women, was treated: “After Gordon begged her to come back last year, it is astonishing. It just seems so unnecessary.”</i><br /><br />But of course McMad proudly boasts how he is helping people to stay in their homes. A scheme which has been reported has helped exactly TWO families since around April of this year. <br /><br />So did he sack for being useless, or would her presence in the cabinet just have reminded him of how useless he is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63842067828375941532009-06-07T17:39:00.201+01:002009-06-07T17:39:00.201+01:00@Norton Folgate
I realise this is a counsel of p...@Norton Folgate <br /><br />I realise this is a counsel of perfection, but people who vote should be able to identify who they are voting for. <br /><br />It would not happen in our system, but, I would have held my nose and voted for Chirac vs. La Pen (as did the vast majority of French leftists).<br /><br />In our case, there were lots of options for protest votes. I am not fan of UKIP nor the (now openly anti-gay) English Democrats, but there were other options for votes on the left (Greens, perhaps Lid Dems), and on the right UKIP, ED, JT).<br /><br />Anyone who voted for the BNP was either Racist or Stupid, but most probably both.Paul Halsallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01602075031268155220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-41986601364338181552009-06-07T17:31:53.333+01:002009-06-07T17:31:53.333+01:00Paul Halsall said...
@Anon 3:19
I agree there ma...Paul Halsall said... <br />@Anon 3:19<br /><br />I agree there may be a big BNP vote.<br /><br />If so, it's a shameful day for this country to vote for racists.<br /><br />June 07, 2009 3:41 PM<br /><br /><br />Perhaps if labour had run a campaign instead of telling people who not to vote for things may have been different.<br /><br />When someone you no longer trust tells you not to do something are you going to listen?Norton Folgatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03852825967140111979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-68391352633454503042009-06-07T17:25:56.530+01:002009-06-07T17:25:56.530+01:00Don't blame people for voting BNP, blame the i...Don't blame people for voting BNP, blame the incumbent politicians for failing the nation. <br /><br />Just exactly what kind of debate has there been in the run up to these EU elections? <br /><br />Just what effort has ever been made to educate the public about the role and purpose of the EU and how continued membership is to the benefit, or otherwise, of the UK? <br /><br />If you want your bin emptied one a week, forget it. It doesn't matter who you vote for locally, or centrally, because the EU dictates how waste management works in the UK.<br /><br />If you don't want your local Post Office to close, or RM to be split up, forget it. The EU is about to destroy our RM as we know it with the willing help of two of our main parties.<br /><br />People vote for the "others" out of desperation, not because the UK is suddenly become a bunch of racists. <br /><br />In case you're wondering, I took the Tebbit option and voted UKIP. Call me irrational if you like, and I certainly don't support much of UKIP's manifesto, but on this single issue of the EU I believe it is totally undemocratic and the same poisons spreads to its member states.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-57223066058422898172009-06-07T17:19:18.979+01:002009-06-07T17:19:18.979+01:00Shades of Nicolae Ceausescu in West Ham today.
A ...Shades of Nicolae Ceausescu in West Ham today.<br /><br />A grim performance from Brown and cronies which beyond the carefully chosen activist support, only amplifies Labour's desperation.<br /><br />No doubt its coverage will be curtailed when the real news of the day occurs later.<br /><br />Another PR disaster prime minister.jon deehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17354116589298046787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-17055152702054562662009-06-07T17:17:03.767+01:002009-06-07T17:17:03.767+01:00@ollybarratt
tell them he's just done a Lieb...@ollybarratt <br /><br />tell them he's just done a Liebour version of a Nuremburg Rally.<br /><br />'The primary aspect of the Nuremberg Rallies was to strengthen the personality cult of Adolf Hitler, portraying Hitler as Germany's saviour, chosen by providence.'Pam Nashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07371835641538430316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4300444961691818732009-06-07T17:15:09.001+01:002009-06-07T17:15:09.001+01:00Paul said...
I sincerely hope that the Conser...Paul said...<br /><br /> I sincerely hope that the Conservative Party makes an official complaint regarding what is effectively a free party political broadcast for the Labour Party. This is absolutely outrageous.<br /><br /><br />Absobloodylutely. This was just a propaganda exercise reminiscent of North Korea and Stalinist Russia. I couldn't see the bloke who was telling them to clap though. Beeb and Sky gonna get huge complaints over this. Beebn has done its chances of survival no good at all.Catosayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02885445175868379750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-48292455548340420372009-06-07T17:01:16.049+01:002009-06-07T17:01:16.049+01:00i'm going to be on radio new zealand and deuts...i'm going to be on radio new zealand and deutsche welle radio in germany talking about gordon brown tonight. <br /><br />what does everyone on here suggest i tell them? that brown's got days left? that he's made a rowsing speech in front of tens of thousands of jubilant, admiring supporters? <br /><br />http://fsn.typepad.com/blog/men'sfashionbloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10486596106266516929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-24863228118548299272009-06-07T16:59:55.339+01:002009-06-07T16:59:55.339+01:00If Labour crash ...
Lab manifesto was to have a re...If Labour crash ...<br />Lab manifesto was to have a referendum on Lisbon. They haven't and have got some stick for it.<br />Lab use dire result to u turn.<br />Then we have a political debate on Europe for 6 months keeping all busy, making current shambles look more like a Govt.Nigel Allerynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-83000844349056445532009-06-07T16:58:04.451+01:002009-06-07T16:58:04.451+01:00Paul Halsall said...
"I agree there may be a...Paul Halsall said...<br /><br />"I agree there may be a big BNP vote.<br />If so, it's a shameful day for this country to vote for racists."<br /><br />Maybe it's more a case of sheer bloody mindedness. So many officials have told us not to vote for them that many may choose to do so, just to stick one up 'em.JBWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-46992007520370876292009-06-07T16:55:12.519+01:002009-06-07T16:55:12.519+01:00Johnny Norfolk
You haven't been watching very...Johnny Norfolk<br /><br />You haven't been watching very often then. Hague, Spellman, Pickles and Cameron himself have all commented on election results amongst others.<br /><br />Anonymous - they only said his delivery was impressive. Sky also said many of the supporters were in a parallel world and BBC pointed out how extremely stagemanaged it was, with both saying it was unlikely to make a difference to Brown's situation.Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-25586877778940846272009-06-07T16:52:32.575+01:002009-06-07T16:52:32.575+01:00This is not on Euro, but a friend of mine has just...This is not on Euro, but a friend of mine has just told me that he was only given a Euro Ballot paper and not as well a County Council Ballot paper as he was entitled - for Derbyshire CC elections in an Ilkeston Ward (Labour were returned in Ilkeston). Can anyone throw any light on this?joecnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-14758461093760082212009-06-07T16:44:56.684+01:002009-06-07T16:44:56.684+01:00What do you expect from a West Ham Supporters rall...What do you expect from a West Ham Supporters rally? :)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13261568249907909203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-34517846867779377812009-06-07T16:44:36.522+01:002009-06-07T16:44:36.522+01:00I was going to complain to Ofcom about the BBC cov...I was going to complain to Ofcom about the BBC coverage of Mad Broon's love-in at West Ham - then I read the following on Ofcom's website. What the f&%$? So who DO we complain to??<br /><br />Ofcom's advice on your next step<br />Programmes on TV or radio -<br />A specific programme<br /><br />'Ofcom can consider complaints about programmes transmitted by all broadcasters licensed in the UK as well as the BBC and S4C.<br /><br />However, we cannot consider complaints about accuracy in BBC TV and radio news or complaints about impartiality in BBC TV and radio programmes. These complaints have to be dealt with by the BBC.'Pam Nashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07371835641538430316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63917200119789059362009-06-07T16:43:22.070+01:002009-06-07T16:43:22.070+01:00Seems to me the BBC and Sky are congratulating Bro...Seems to me the BBC and Sky are congratulating Brown on giving an "impressive" performance. Unbelievable.<br /><br />This man is unbalanced.<br /><br />Another "Brown bounce" narrative coming from the BBC very soon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-21247897518166565562009-06-07T16:37:35.894+01:002009-06-07T16:37:35.894+01:00@Victor
Lol - fair point. May be I am getting a l...@Victor<br /><br />Lol - fair point. May be I am getting a little obsessive.Siberian Torynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-58988579224233737892009-06-07T16:36:25.322+01:002009-06-07T16:36:25.322+01:00Is a trans parent a mother or father who has under...Is a trans parent a mother or father who has undergone gender reassignement?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-9775907591618762452009-06-07T16:34:59.882+01:002009-06-07T16:34:59.882+01:00Bloody hell. There is 20-20 World Cricket on the T...Bloody hell. There is 20-20 World Cricket on the TV and you guys are watching Brown talking to a crowd rented by Mandelson!<br /><br />Apart from that the sun has come out.Victor, NW Kenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14778890471547456396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63400021536558989512009-06-07T16:33:52.410+01:002009-06-07T16:33:52.410+01:00Steve Expat on Guido's blog reminds us of Dan ...Steve Expat on Guido's blog reminds us of Dan Han's speech.<br /><br />"And when you repeat, in that wooden and perfunctory way, that our situation is better than others, that we’re well place to weather the storm, I have to tell you, you sound like a Brezhnev-era Apparatchik giving the party line."<br /><br />Apt very apt.<br /><br />BBC complaints.<br /><br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complaints_stage1.shtmlSiberian Torynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-70361802045450633952009-06-07T16:30:54.607+01:002009-06-07T16:30:54.607+01:00The total coverage of Labour by the BBC at the exc...The total coverage of Labour by the BBC at the exclusion of all others is nothing short of a national disgrace.<br /><br />I have not seen a single Tory commening on the election results.Johnny Norfolkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16900659617233793880noreply@blogger.com