tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post7106836440822929265..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Osborne Confirms Defection ApproachesIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-16401886423774668622007-03-23T20:33:00.000+00:002007-03-23T20:33:00.000+00:00Osborne: We are a big tent.More realistic: The Con...Osborne: <I>We are a big tent.</I><BR/><BR/>More realistic: The Conservative party is too big a tent and needs to be split up in two smaller tents, that can work together afterwards. What we should have learned from John Major's government and now from Cameron is that there is a good reason why there is a lot of infighting in the Conservative Party: the distance from the left and the right side is too long. And now they want to import more Lib Dimmies? I think not.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14734641936795234516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-89241938830070320162007-03-23T18:02:00.000+00:002007-03-23T18:02:00.000+00:00Observer-Inspired!Observer-Inspired!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-71061945921651194262007-03-23T17:50:00.000+00:002007-03-23T17:50:00.000+00:00Couldn't they tempt Shaun Woodward back by letting...Couldn't they tempt Shaun Woodward back by letting him have his old seat back ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-80053068915235449532007-03-23T17:38:00.000+00:002007-03-23T17:38:00.000+00:00Whoever could it be? Of course the place for Eurof...Whoever could it be? Of course the place for Eurofanatical, anti-family, pro-crime, pro-drugs Lib Dems is in party of the Eurofanatical, anti-family, pro-crime, pro-drugs Cameron and Osborne.<BR/><BR/>Unless I am very much mistaken, the only party ever actually to have been founded within Parliament, before attempting to spread itself outside to the country at large, was the SDP. And look what happened to that. It is we who should be taking the initiative. I am. Why aren't you?David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-11658680348511138672007-03-23T17:36:00.000+00:002007-03-23T17:36:00.000+00:00Since fair exchange is no robbery I wonder which C...Since fair exchange is no robbery I wonder which Cons should defect to Mings team?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-32251634265472765832007-03-23T17:29:00.000+00:002007-03-23T17:29:00.000+00:00Everytime I consider defecting (and I consider it ...Everytime I consider defecting (and I consider it regularly), something stops me. The Tories just aren't socially liberal enough.<BR/><BR/>When are you going to commit to letting people make their own decisions about their own lives? Will you reverse the smoking ban? Will you legalise drugs? Will you cut taxes and let people choose how to spend their own money? Etc, etc, etc...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-60062740883218706012007-03-23T17:22:00.000+00:002007-03-23T17:22:00.000+00:00Kate Hoey without a doubt, who is full of common ...Kate Hoey without a doubt, who is full of common sense, and was the best Sports Minister ever (sadly replaced by that know-nothing-about-sports twit Caborn when she bravely stood up for the many thousands of innocent law abiding target pistol shooter who lost their sport for nothing)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-83322972619402718852007-03-23T17:18:00.000+00:002007-03-23T17:18:00.000+00:00Frank Field and Kate Hoey are the obvious ones :¬...Frank Field and Kate Hoey are the obvious ones :¬)<BR/><BR/>I think they can probably keep Dennis Skinner, but then if we go any further to the left...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40446232555900273242007-03-23T17:06:00.000+00:002007-03-23T17:06:00.000+00:00Keith Vaizey would be my choice too. He's popular ...Keith Vaizey would be my choice too. He's popular and well known.The Daily Pundithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10897210727324532431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-27046976583812983232007-03-23T16:59:00.000+00:002007-03-23T16:59:00.000+00:00Frank Field and Kate Hoey are too conservative for...Frank Field and Kate Hoey are too conservative for the Cameroon Party. Cameron is the Leader of what is now the otherwise leaderless New Labour Project in all three parties, so that both the Blairite remnant and the Orange Book Tendency should defect to his gang, which conservatives (not Thatcherites, conservatives) should leave. Then THEY really could hook up with Field, Hoey, and actually quite a lot of the Labour Party and the trade union movement.David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-53441828997390576542007-03-23T16:37:00.000+00:002007-03-23T16:37:00.000+00:00I'm sure Shaun Woodward is ready to do another 'Ch...I'm sure Shaun Woodward is ready to do another 'Churchill'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-65784691669504444142007-03-23T16:36:00.000+00:002007-03-23T16:36:00.000+00:00I'd be quite happy for you to help yourselves to C...I'd be quite happy for you to help yourselves to Chris Davies and Jenny Tonge.<BR/><BR/>Their views may bear no resemblance whatsoever to conservatism - but as far as I'm concerned, they have nothing to do with liberalism either!Jonny Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07414994559548890103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-52707335946347704612007-03-23T16:14:00.000+00:002007-03-23T16:14:00.000+00:00What about Peter Mandelson?What about Peter Mandelson?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-24336322627964360622007-03-23T16:11:00.000+00:002007-03-23T16:11:00.000+00:00You can have Alan Milburn, Stephen Byers, Hilary A...You can have Alan Milburn, Stephen Byers, Hilary Armstrong and Tessa Jowell. Charles Clarke you can have for free.<BR/><BR/>One thing - can we have Boris Johnson in return. Just for fun, really.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-73356258982192057942007-03-23T15:09:00.000+00:002007-03-23T15:09:00.000+00:00Take Liberal Democrats?You must be jokingGenuine c...Take Liberal Democrats?<BR/><BR/>You must be joking<BR/><BR/>Genuine change of heart - great. Back on the streets and work for ten years and we might believe you.<BR/><BR/>Opportunistic power-hungry creeps who have finally realised they are never getting into power with their own Party and want to broker their way into safe seats?<BR/><BR/>Never.<BR/><BR/>Reality Check - They aren't Tory so why would we want them? We have got too many SDP second-raters in the Party already.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88282032945109512402007-03-23T14:57:00.000+00:002007-03-23T14:57:00.000+00:00Integrity and Oaten aren't happy bedfellows are th...Integrity and Oaten aren't happy bedfellows are they?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17186090150450558899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-15567700406557347822007-03-23T14:47:00.000+00:002007-03-23T14:47:00.000+00:00I'd take Frank Field, Kate Hoey and probably John ...I'd take Frank Field, Kate Hoey and probably John Denham too. Can't say I'm interested in any of the Lib Dems at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-25930447818652108442007-03-23T14:46:00.000+00:002007-03-23T14:46:00.000+00:00If Browne was to defect to the Tories and make a g...If Browne was to defect to the Tories and make a good argument in his local area as to why it could make a massive difference to the political makeup of the West Country. Somerset County Council could go blue, it is too early to be talking about the death of the Lib Dems?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-49525809565628383062007-03-23T14:34:00.000+00:002007-03-23T14:34:00.000+00:00I was long ago told (by someone with good reason t...I was long ago told (by someone with good reason to know) that Frank Field belongs in a different party from the Labour party - the Frank Field party.<BR/><BR/>I cannot for the life of me see why any of the Orange Book Lib Dems are hesitating; it should be stark staring obvious for their own political survival and to help cement the Cameron changes in the Conservative party that they should be defecting. Whether the dry-as-dust right wingers would welcome that is another matter entirely.<BR/><BR/>I can't see many Labour MPs for whom it would make sense to defect, nor many whom it would make sense for the Tories to accept.antifrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17211299136528160895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-36167270210852226382007-03-23T14:32:00.000+00:002007-03-23T14:32:00.000+00:00I'd welcome all of the "usual suspects":Frank Fiel...I'd welcome all of the "usual suspects":<BR/><BR/>Frank Field<BR/>Kate Hoey<BR/>Mark Oaten<BR/><BR/>casting the net out rather ( very unrealistically) further and wider, it'd be good to get a one or two of these too:<BR/><BR/>David Heath<BR/>John Mann<BR/>Geraldine Smith<BR/>David Lammy<BR/>Vera Baird<BR/><BR/>anyone with a bit of integrity reallyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44737041362629406102007-03-23T14:28:00.000+00:002007-03-23T14:28:00.000+00:00I did detect a mood of "stuff them" from Kate Hoey...I did detect a mood of "stuff them" from Kate Hoey during the £20.12bln (c) debate.Roger Thornhillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01153744692290896812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-62331599628494489942007-03-23T14:24:00.000+00:002007-03-23T14:24:00.000+00:00Hope Eton Dave will read the history of Heath runn...Hope Eton Dave will read the history of Heath running after Thorpe in the 70's before he goes too far.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-81296853373620496922007-03-23T14:21:00.000+00:002007-03-23T14:21:00.000+00:00This is the sort of thing that if there were a rea...This is the sort of thing that if there were a real chance of it happening it would be sensible to keep quiet until the day. I assume those talking know this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-14958316973253462842007-03-23T14:19:00.000+00:002007-03-23T14:19:00.000+00:00Bring me dead NuLab scum not deserters, they are s...Bring me dead NuLab scum not deserters, they are shot at dawn.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88490050513177824492007-03-23T14:18:00.000+00:002007-03-23T14:18:00.000+00:00I thought he and his crew have been in the wrong p...I thought he and his crew have been in the wrong party for the last 10 years......I would like to defect to the OldTory Party.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com