tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post6247698616398680482..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Cable Calls for Labour/LibDem Merger (Sort Of)Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-83160885523154782182008-09-15T18:39:00.000+01:002008-09-15T18:39:00.000+01:00That's pulling power for you Iain!You even get unr...That's pulling power for you Iain!<BR/><BR/>You even get unretrenched crypto communists like Senior over here! I never realised he came on here - maybe Mark is going to defect as it looks like his party has left him!<BR/><BR/>LOOoooooooooooooOOOL!<BR/><BR/>I need smilies!<BR/><BR/>Mark, say hello to Skeleton for me! I watched some folk who looked like you earlier on the telly!<BR/><BR/>Maybe Mark will tell Huhne and Clegg the game is up in there seats. They may as well roll-over and let the Tories steamroller them!<BR/><BR/>Obviously Mark still cares about the unemployed like the compasionate Liberal Democrat he is! He reminds me of that group of lad's in that 1970's film - the clockwork Orange - Attacking the old man in the subway! <BR/><BR/>Tut - Tut Mark! You should stick to coin collecting as your political views are as rare and antique as your coins. Your party is like pond slim in the political evolution stakes and will surely be suseptable to an early extinction!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-79847929086220779712008-09-15T15:43:00.000+01:002008-09-15T15:43:00.000+01:00It's nothing new. I remember attending a Labour co...It's nothing new. I remember attending a Labour conference fringe event where Polly Toynbee proposed that Labour and the Lib Dems merge and introduce proportional representation in a bid to ensure the "progressive left" stay in power for good. Her comments were met by nods of agreement from party delegates.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-46170580671075376132008-09-15T13:09:00.000+01:002008-09-15T13:09:00.000+01:00Martin Day ( not his real name , of course ) is an...Martin Day ( not his real name , of course ) is an embittered and twisted little man who seems to blame the LibDems for his permanent state of unemployment whereas it is clear to all from his posts here and elsewhere as to the real reason why noone will contemplate offering him a job .Mark Seniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06482009878893889107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-975263193162039352008-09-15T12:18:00.000+01:002008-09-15T12:18:00.000+01:00No, I am not Ian Oakley!I do not think the alleged...No, I am not Ian Oakley!<BR/><BR/>I do not think the alleged actions were prudent - It gave the Whingers and the babies in the LD's ammunition, that they do not deserve and given their behaviour in some areas of the country: Shows there rank duplicity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-71126335559897253032008-09-15T12:08:00.000+01:002008-09-15T12:08:00.000+01:00Big mistake how Clegg handled the EU referendum .....Big mistake how Clegg handled the EU referendum ..We are not stupid and will not forget come the next electionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-73657074829298806812008-09-15T09:47:00.000+01:002008-09-15T09:47:00.000+01:00Come on admit Martin, you're really Ian Oakley!Come on admit Martin, you're really Ian Oakley!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-60090963033638404572008-09-15T08:30:00.000+01:002008-09-15T08:30:00.000+01:00Perhaps the Lib dems and Brownites can join forces...Perhaps the Lib dems and Brownites can join forces in a libsoc party and the Blairites and Cameroonites get together to form a social democrat party - the majority of tories can join forces with UKIP to join a christian democrat group.<BR/>It all makes sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-73958077910890666962008-09-15T08:17:00.000+01:002008-09-15T08:17:00.000+01:00There are liberal Lib-Dems and there are socialist...There are liberal Lib-Dems and there are socialist Lib-Dems. Most of the members and activists are socialists, the MPs are split down the middle, those who vote for them are probably more liberal than socialist.<BR/><BR/>If this were to happen, we would probably see ten defections to the Tories, (the Orange-Bookers), and gain some of those seats where liberal Lib-Dems were in the majority. <BR/><BR/>We would also see a return to the straight fight between socialist liberalism and liberal conservatism which has historically been the structure of our politics.<BR/><BR/>It could be a good thing, but the left have usually had to gang up on us to beat us, so it might not be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-64481227775536174382008-09-14T23:08:00.000+01:002008-09-14T23:08:00.000+01:00Clarke says no? That's final then as he and GB are...Clarke says no? That's final then as he and GB are absolutely united on everything. I'd take Cable over Clarke these days for a place in cabinet, as many LP people would. CC is a clever man, and funny, but there seems to be a fundamental problem with nous.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-304652916431605062008-09-14T22:39:00.000+01:002008-09-14T22:39:00.000+01:00September 14, 2008 8:44 PM @ anon:Because I am sic...September 14, 2008 8:44 PM @ anon:<BR/><BR/>Because I am sick to death of posting on sites where you have to be ever so nice and step on egg-shells all the time. <BR/><BR/>The LD's are a nasty, vile party that spread smear and personalise politics at every turn, they are a bunch of spoilt middle class brats on the whole, who don't fight on the issues but on there own self-important perception and have the sensitivity of children when there failing brand is subject to critique.<BR/><BR/>I detest the way, the LD's pervert politics and their high and mighty elitist attitude, that they are all ways right and above the other two parties. The LD's are permeantly in the gutter and this would explain their obsession with cleaning pavements and dog excrement. <BR/><BR/>The LD's at the next election will be swept out of many seats in this country and I look forward to the bafoon's getting caught with their pants down as they lose seats hand over fist to the Tories and get nothing from Labour.<BR/><BR/>Far from being the master's in a hung parliament I can see the LD's retreating into their comfort zone: The Yellow Taxi!<BR/><BR/>Clegg and Huhne are the rear orifice of the Labour party and their politics are as dirty as this anology would imply.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-51975263638260320192008-09-14T20:54:00.000+01:002008-09-14T20:54:00.000+01:00Yep, that's great.. two parties can have their uni...Yep, that's great.. two parties can have their united front and champion belief-in-nothingism.<BR/><BR/>So, its a party that has proved it has a death wish and subsequently decided to take the rest of us with them...and a party of never wozzers who have suddenly sensed desperation and are bringing out the old lib/lab pact/coalition/mutual appreciation line.<BR/><BR/>It's disgusting!<BR/><BR/>They are two parties that are increasingly irrelevant. Why don't they just f f fade away.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-5759327034434155642008-09-14T20:44:00.000+01:002008-09-14T20:44:00.000+01:00Calm down Martin, you sound like a Watford PPC, it...Calm down Martin, you sound like a Watford PPC, it's not policy it's Iain's take on a comment at a conference fringe. If as you say the Liberals are a dying party, why bother posting your bile.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-21552343128266998082008-09-14T20:24:00.000+01:002008-09-14T20:24:00.000+01:00Speaking as a Labour supporter and as probably a m...Speaking as a Labour supporter and as probably a member of the next generation of labour politicians, i would say - lets get it on vince.<BR/><BR/>Cqan only happen if labour lose though. Libdems couldnt prop up a labour govt that had lost its majorityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-7315655146934671212008-09-14T19:58:00.000+01:002008-09-14T19:58:00.000+01:00Vince Cable said nothing of the sort.Cable's argum...Vince Cable said nothing of the sort.<BR/><BR/>Cable's argument about a possible realignment was basically the claim that, if the polls were true and Labour got stuffed, and then went into a civil war, then perhaps the LibDems would be the more powerful of two opposition parties. And then he said the LibDems could not do anything to bring this about, but that the plates of politics could shift.<BR/><BR/>Clarke then pointed out (given that the SDP/Alliance bid to overtake Labour happened after Labour defections), that there was absolutely zip chance of any defections.<BR/><BR/>There are quotes on the Fabian blog<BR/><BR/>http://www.nextleft.org/Sunder Katwalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06671411534003530927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-79915575404823797652008-09-14T19:06:00.000+01:002008-09-14T19:06:00.000+01:00Might be a good idea.The Labour party are too scar...Might be a good idea.<BR/><BR/>The Labour party are <A HREF="http://cybernat.blogspot.com/2008/09/so-where-are-numbers.html" REL="nofollow">too scared</A> to publish what the turnout and voting figures (not percentages) were for the Scottish Labour leadership contest?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-18856239437525955362008-09-14T18:06:00.000+01:002008-09-14T18:06:00.000+01:00What did I say some time ago? The remaining 2 part...What did I say some time ago? The remaining 2 parties will both split - libdems into a hard left that will join the rump of labour and the rest will join the Tories. Labour will disintegrate into a hard left and..... nothing.kinglearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10252474133821652670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-27168314607953063242008-09-14T17:58:00.000+01:002008-09-14T17:58:00.000+01:00"If Labour suffer a heavy defeat, if the arrival o..."If Labour suffer a heavy defeat, if the arrival of a Conservative government, ensures Scottish indpendence, a merger is on the cards."<BR/><BR/>You can count on it, labour will be unelectable in England/Wales without their block of Scottish MPs. Which is why they are so fond of promoting the union and "britishness" at the moment.Kevin Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985944772086267601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-54554374300377541182008-09-14T17:52:00.000+01:002008-09-14T17:52:00.000+01:00the liberal dummiecrats are an irrelevance, they w...the liberal dummiecrats are an irrelevance, they will be put to the sword at the next election. No wonder cable is shitting himself and I bet he isn't the only one.Kevin Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985944772086267601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-53512602875891256892008-09-14T17:40:00.000+01:002008-09-14T17:40:00.000+01:00So Charles Clarke told Vince to (metaphorically) s...So Charles Clarke told Vince to (metaphorically) sod off.<BR/><BR/>That might come back to bite him on his rather large a***!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-14080960569444881542008-09-14T17:36:00.000+01:002008-09-14T17:36:00.000+01:00I know we have been here before but if you asked s...I know we have been here before but if you asked somebody 15 years ago who would be insisting on ID cards and going to war here there and everywhere how many would have answered "Labour" ?<BR/>Freedom to Prosper<BR/>PS Bring back John PrsecottAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-18974197272353040812008-09-14T16:16:00.000+01:002008-09-14T16:16:00.000+01:00That will go down well in the South where they are...That will go down well in the South where they are busy pretending they are almost the same thing as the Conservative Party. Thanks lain , I `ll use that <BR/>It was not that long ago Lib Lab merger was in the news as a possibility in the Independent and it was only when it looked like a bad idea that it went quiet.<BR/>Meanwhile Clegg is talking the most meretricious codswallop about being a tax cutting Party. They seem to have no idea what they are up to . Great post Iain.Newmaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11922161971821380803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44368298110067208662008-09-14T16:15:00.000+01:002008-09-14T16:15:00.000+01:00Its is always clear that Vince Cable's politics ar...Its is always clear that Vince Cable's politics are essentially anti-Tory ( hence the BBC's love of him ).<BR/><BR/>Nick Clegg is the only Lib Dem politician I've yet seen who takes a view that the Lib Dems have something unique to offer. The rest behave like the socialist B team.Man in a Shedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00990902055642035293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-74978537430647557642008-09-14T16:06:00.000+01:002008-09-14T16:06:00.000+01:00I look forward to the day David Cameron will win 1...I look forward to the day David Cameron will win 100% of votes cast with a sly laugh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-72820062296830722892008-09-14T15:50:00.000+01:002008-09-14T15:50:00.000+01:00If Labour suffer a heavy defeat, if the arrival of...If Labour suffer a heavy defeat, if the arrival of a Conservative government, ensures Scottish indpendence, a merger is on the cards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-22998289362783169732008-09-14T14:51:00.000+01:002008-09-14T14:51:00.000+01:00The Lib-Dems have a history of working with Labour...The Lib-Dems have a history of working with Labour. There was the Lib-Lab pact in Westminster between March 1977 and October 1978 when they were still the Liberal Party.<BR/><BR/>Between 1999 and 2007 the Lib-Dems and Labour worked in a coalition for eight years in the Scottish Parliament and the only reason that the the Lib-Dems failed to form a coalition with the SNP after the 2007 elections was that Ming Campbell and Gordon Brown had such a close political relationship that Ming didn't want to upset Gordon.<BR/><BR/>To be honest I can't see the strategic advantage for the Lib-Dems in forming an alliance with a party that has just taken a kicking in the polls which will be the situation after the next GE.<BR/><BR/>Their status as Junior Labour in Scotland did them no favours in the 2007 Scottish Elections but if they decide to go down the suicide route them I'm all for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com