tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post564801812261758581..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Will I Ever Satisfy Richard North?Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1485360577650343582008-09-13T00:28:00.000+01:002008-09-13T00:28:00.000+01:00I'm not spartacus eitherI'm not spartacus eitherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-82662400198199280002008-09-12T22:42:00.000+01:002008-09-12T22:42:00.000+01:00So the chap calling himself plain "Richard" is rea...So the chap calling himself plain "Richard" is really called "Richard North" (one of the many). Is he too lazy to give this information directly, relying on us to click on the username of every random person who contributes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-33298024719903886552008-09-12T20:18:00.000+01:002008-09-12T20:18:00.000+01:00I am also a big fan of EUR and your diary Iain. Wh...I am also a big fan of EUR and your diary Iain. What you write on your blogs is your business, and our pleasure.<BR/>I'm sure you would have commented on it, but given the importance of the decision I'm surprised that more hasn't been made of it, in general. I would have thought it would be especially interesting to you, because of your links with the Conservative Party. It is important to try and understand what the Conservative position on this is.<BR/>Should you get a more lenient fine for slashing a 4x4’s tires because the owner is ‘killing the planet’? <BR/>If someone shoots the chief exec, of say, a 'polluter', do you think they should get a more lenient sentence, because they are ‘saving the planet’? <BR/>All this is under the assumption that AGW is proven beyond all reasonable doubt (which it isn’t if you take a balanced view)..., to have a significant effect on global climate. If AGW is not a significant factor in ‘climate change’, could the law-breakers be sued in retrospect? It’s just plain vandalism in my view.<BR/>This is what it boils down to - rule of law. If the law is unjustified, we should petition a change in the law, not take it into our own hands (well, try and change the laws we still have control of - most of our laws are now made by the EU... ).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-58307315637790552712008-09-12T14:27:00.000+01:002008-09-12T14:27:00.000+01:00On the subject of the court case (rather than the ...On the subject of the court case (rather than the subject of who is bitching at who) this is a black day for the rule of law. The law no longer seems to apply to the PC brigade & they have been given leave to do whatever they want in precisely the same way that previous politically correct thugs were given leave to destroy shops on the grounds that the Jews had been responsible for losing WW1.<BR/><BR/>From a radio interview this morning with one of these Greeshirts it is clear that the "prosecution" did not even attempt to dispute Hansen's perjury. It is a matter of record that when catastrophic warming has been publicly debated it has consistently failed to persuade the public.<BR/><BR/>http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results.html?artId=20938<BR/><BR/>This is why St Al has always refused to debate with any sceptic.<BR/><BR/>Had the prosecution done their duty & let a jury see all the evidence I suspect the result would have been different. Instead we saw a roll call of the "great & good" lying their heads off.<BR/><BR/>I don't know if an appeal is possible but if it is it should be done.<BR/><BR/>In particular Zac Goldsmith is a Conservative candidate. If Conservatism stands for anything it is that freedom requires the rule of law not of mobs. Mr Cameron cannot honourably support his continued standing for Parliament.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-8209844672590468602008-09-12T12:51:00.000+01:002008-09-12T12:51:00.000+01:00Oh come on Iain.Richard North was, rightly, having...Oh come on Iain.<BR/>Richard North was, rightly, having a go at not just you, but Guido and ConHome as well.<BR/>You all purport to be political blogs, yet not a peep from you on one of the most important court cases in English history.<BR/>Guess Tory Tottie matters more than a court condoning property damage, or Windmill Dave failing to discipline the prospective Tory candidate for Richmond Park for his shameful part in the proceedings.<BR/>He wasn't so slow to fire that bloke who DIDN'T make a racist comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-59429852268583926662008-09-12T11:49:00.000+01:002008-09-12T11:49:00.000+01:00Arrogant! You forgot Arrogant!Stupid boy!Arrogant! You forgot Arrogant!<BR/><BR/>Stupid boy!Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02561483930556493363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4720145839266965162008-09-12T10:21:00.000+01:002008-09-12T10:21:00.000+01:00If Richard North didn't spend most of his time say...If Richard North didn't spend most of his time saying how brilliant he is and how stupid everyone else is he might achieve something. On the other hand, he's not as ghastly as your friend Helen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-48288860663154776882008-09-12T00:18:00.000+01:002008-09-12T00:18:00.000+01:00The man's a snob who thinks he's better than every...The man's a snob who thinks he's better than everyone else and never got over not becoming a UKIP MEP which is why he constantly has a go at them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-49589984945352974322008-09-11T21:20:00.000+01:002008-09-11T21:20:00.000+01:00Martin, how very nice of you. Feel free to say hel...Martin, how very nice of you. Feel free to say hello at the LibDem conference. I'll decide on my response at the time.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-14593298358637977312008-09-11T21:15:00.000+01:002008-09-11T21:15:00.000+01:00None of us LIKE you Iain, you are just a fact of l...None of us LIKE you Iain, you are just a fact of life, like measles...Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05589409310709797194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-19919683831980884832008-09-11T20:54:00.000+01:002008-09-11T20:54:00.000+01:00"Perhaps if the Tories were devoid of these monoma..."Perhaps if the Tories were devoid of these monomaniacs and engaged with real Britain rather than pandering to these whingers they might not have got smashed at the last three elections. Just a thought..."<BR/><BR/>I suppose it's of little consequence that a substantial majority of real Britons wanted a vote on the, "Treaty" just as the Irish actually did. Hmm, I wonder what the result would have been?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2747790735455164232008-09-11T20:19:00.000+01:002008-09-11T20:19:00.000+01:00Neither am INeither am IAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-89187429502738254782008-09-11T19:58:00.000+01:002008-09-11T19:58:00.000+01:00Dale,North does kinda have a point. No offence in...Dale,<BR/><BR/>North does kinda have a point. No offence intended but the tory blog network can be insufferably inane and insipid to the point of dispair and while you're all conkers deep in Camerons backside, some of us are actually shitting a brick at how we're going to pay our bills and whether we will still have electricity in the next decade. <BR/><BR/>This is a situation the tories have utterly failed to engage on and in many respects they are making the situation immeasurably worse and yet you give blog inches to some real witless drivel, more often than not these days.<BR/><BR/>You are obsessed with politicians but not politics. Here's a news flash... most of us are utterly sick of the lot of them.<BR/><BR/>Steve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-20521894759066234042008-09-11T19:42:00.000+01:002008-09-11T19:42:00.000+01:00OLIVER L. NORTH IS A COMBAT DECORATED MARINE, A #1...OLIVER L. NORTH IS A COMBAT DECORATED MARINE, A #1 BEST-SELLING AUTHOR, THE FOUNDER OF A SMALL BUSINESS, AN INVENTOR WITH THREE U.S. PATENTS, A SYNDICATED COLUMNIST, AND THE HOST OF “WAR STORIES” ON THE FOX A CHANNEL. YET, HE CLAIMS HIS MOST IMPORTANT ACCOMPLISHMENT IS TO BE “THE HUSBAND OF ONE, THE FATHER OF FOUR AND THE GRANDFATHER OF ELEVEN.”<BR/><BR/>NORTH WAS BORN IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS, GRADUATED FROM THE U.S. NAVAL ACADEMY IN ANNAPOLIS, MARYLAND, AND SERVED 22 YEARS AS A U.S. MARINE. HIS AWARDS FOR SERVICE IN COMBAT INCLUDE THE SILVER STAR, THE BRONZE STAR FOR VALOR AND TWO PURPLE HEARTS FOR WOUNDS IN COMBAT.<BR/><BR/>ASSIGNED TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL STAFF IN THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION, LIEUTENANT COLONEL NORTH WAS THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT’S COUNTER-TERRORISM COORDINATOR FROM 1983-1986. HE WAS INVOLVED IN PLANNING THE RESCUE OF 804 MEDICAL STUDENTS ON THE ISLAND OF GRENADA AND PLAYED A MAJOR ROLE IN THE DARING CAPTURE OF THE HIJACKERS OF THE CRUISE SHIP ACHILLE LAURO. AFTER HELPING PLAN THE U.S. RAID ON MUAMMAR QADDAFI’S TERRORIST BASES IN LIBYA, NORTH WAS TARGETED FOR ASSASSINATION BY ABU NIDAL, THE INFAMOUS TERRORIST FOUND DEAD IN BAGHDAD IN AUGUST, 2002. PRESIDENT RONALD REAGAN DESCRIBED HIM AS “AN AMERICAN HERO.”<BR/><BR/>SINCE 2001, NORTH HAS BEEN THE HOST OF “WAR STORIES” – THE AWARD-WINNING MILITARY DOCUMENTARY SERIES ON FOX NEWS CHANNEL. HE HAS ALSO AUTHORED ELEVEN BOOKS – ALL OF THEM NEW YORK TIMES BEST SELLERS. HIS NEXT BOOK, AMERICAN HEROES, BASED ON HIS EXTENSIVE COVERAGE OF U.S. MILITARY UNITS ENGAGED IN AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ AND THE PHILIPPINES WILL BE PUBLISHED IN APRIL 2008. <BR/><BR/>NORTH IS A LIFE MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION AND A MEMBER OF THE NRA BOARD OF DIRECTORS. HE IS ALSO THE FOUNDER OF FREEDOM ALLIANCE, A FOUNDATION THAT PROVIDES COLLEGE SCHOLARSHIPS FOR THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF SERVICE MEMBERS KILLED IN ACTION.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-9920137282398854222008-09-11T19:20:00.000+01:002008-09-11T19:20:00.000+01:00I am not a Richard North . . .I am not a Richard North . . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-15645067262600957542008-09-11T19:07:00.000+01:002008-09-11T19:07:00.000+01:00Ah well Iain, this is what happens when you keep c...Ah well Iain, this is what happens when you keep company with swivel-eyed right-wing loons (Europhobe obsessives, climate change deniers, tax-cuts-at-all-costs freaks, und so weiter ad infinitum) wrapped in their cosy microscopic worlds blowing their bugbears out of all proportion.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps if the Tories were devoid of these monomaniacs and engaged with real Britain rather than pandering to these whingers they might not have got smashed at the last three elections. Just a thought...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-75269848034814145392008-09-11T18:55:00.000+01:002008-09-11T18:55:00.000+01:00Iain, I saw the title and thought of the story (Ma...Iain, I saw the title and thought of the story (Mae West?) ...<BR/><BR/>"Do you think you could kill a man?"<BR/><BR/>"How long have I got"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-67131324382965424782008-09-11T18:44:00.000+01:002008-09-11T18:44:00.000+01:00If I owned that power station I would go round and...If I owned that power station I would go round and torch the local hippy hang out in order to protect my property from future criminal damage which now seems to be legal.Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15755490516141328662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-23156579221021006142008-09-11T18:39:00.000+01:002008-09-11T18:39:00.000+01:00I read the EUReferendum blog every day and reckon ...I read the EUReferendum blog every day and reckon it's indispensible. Richard North is sometimes his own worst enemy with his sharp retorts to readers on the blog forum. But I prefer a tetchy putdown from the old curmudgeon than a silkily spun compliment from Mr Mandelson or others of his EU ilk. He's got his heart in the right place.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06358349301959327747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-40344439662350383562008-09-11T18:35:00.000+01:002008-09-11T18:35:00.000+01:00Can't satisfy everyone, Iain.Can't satisfy everyone, Iain.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-35787620061186055312008-09-11T18:32:00.000+01:002008-09-11T18:32:00.000+01:00Is he any relation to Peter North, he of the "mons...Is he any relation to Peter North, he of the "monster facial"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-6122338248799702592008-09-11T18:17:00.000+01:002008-09-11T18:17:00.000+01:00Sorry, but this is going to get complicated.I am R...Sorry, but this is going to get complicated.<BR/><BR/>I am Richard D. North and I am not Richard North (that is: I am not the anti-EU colleague of Christopher Booker). I am not as cross about the climate change lobby as plain old no-"D" Richard North. <BR/><BR/>All that said, I do agree with Iain and RN that Greenpeace should never have been allowed to get off a criminal damages charge with its spurious and disingenuous legal wrinkle.<BR/><BR/>May I beg anyone who's interested to look at www.livingissues.com, where we discuss this very matter?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-69717130055308238072008-09-11T18:12:00.000+01:002008-09-11T18:12:00.000+01:00IainHugely entertained, and it all makes blogging ...Iain<BR/><BR/>Hugely entertained, and it all makes blogging rather fun - what is the point of having friends if you can't slag them off?<BR/><BR/>You now have the distinction of adding your view, as opposed to the Telegraph, which rather perversely, finds the issue not important enough to report on!<BR/><BR/>Mind you, if we are to listen to arch europhile Jon Worth, then hush your mouth, we shouldn't be talking about energy at all.<BR/><BR/>Thankfully, we are not judged by those who comment on our blogs - otherwise I for one would be in prison.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02561483930556493363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-35004068444450730462008-09-11T17:56:00.000+01:002008-09-11T17:56:00.000+01:00Iain, beachhutman and loophole are both correct, N...Iain, beachhutman and loophole are both correct, North is just jelous of the sucess of your site,and is just try to add gravitas to his by slagging you and yours off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-38692283320491039682008-09-11T17:45:00.000+01:002008-09-11T17:45:00.000+01:00His joint book on the EU "The great deception" is ...His joint book on the EU "The great deception" is a well-worth-it read. However since part of his proposition on Monnet's little scam is that others in the Commission want to tell you what to do, think, write, it is a bit rich for him to try to do the same.<BR/><BR/>It's your blog after all.<BR/><BR/>However sorry to disappoint you but I am pleased the jury thought the way they did. The growth of authoritarian government edicts - usually supporting cartel business - needs kerbing.<BR/><BR/>And as others have mentioned, just because it is the law does not mean it is correct. If we had a truly representative Parliament we would have far fewer such actions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com