tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post5357732103828681173..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Alex Hilton Treads The WireIain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-15329807254727776652009-08-31T22:22:23.922+01:002009-08-31T22:22:23.922+01:00A pedant writes:
I think most people are aware tha...A pedant writes:<br />I think most people are aware that homosexual means being attracted to people of the same sex and heterosexual means being attracted to people of the opposite sex.<br /><br />Homophobia is short for homosexualphobia.<br /><br />Some quibble with the 'phobia' root, meaning 'fear of', but in my experience much prejudice stems from fear, rather than hatred.Hamishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07401451754373118599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-41072469928297542072009-08-31T20:13:03.569+01:002009-08-31T20:13:03.569+01:00>Other Labour candidates are asking how he can ...>Other Labour candidates are asking how he can get away with going on TV and constantly calling for Gordon Brown to shape up or quit.<br /><br />Perhaps because hos chances of winning are roughly 0.0000000000000001%.Matt Wardmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04326720801362744582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-35913504578323648332009-08-31T17:25:37.861+01:002009-08-31T17:25:37.861+01:00Did Alex Hilton take a class in 'being a fcukw...Did Alex Hilton take a class in 'being a fcukwit' or does it come naturally to him?John Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-68973138158705391312009-08-31T15:36:00.851+01:002009-08-31T15:36:00.851+01:00re letters from a Tory
surely its a relative thin...re letters from a Tory<br /><br />surely its a relative thing. If the Tory candidate for Bolsover had done this would the BBC have hounded them? I doubt it<br /><br />and thats the comparison to make, this is a hopeless seat for Labour and Alex Hilton has as much chance of winning it as GB does of winning the election. zilcho.KPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06299707707433365538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-1467283633924778882009-08-31T11:35:32.475+01:002009-08-31T11:35:32.475+01:00Iain Dale said...
DL, you don't do irony ...<b>Iain Dale</b> said...<br /><br /> <i>DL, you don't do irony do you. Surely even with your blinkers on you can see that calling a gay man homophobic is slightly ridiculous.</i><br /><br /> August 30, 2009 6:22 PM<br /><br /><<<br /><br />It is completely possible for gay men to be homophobic Iain. I have no idea what the context was in your case ... but there are plenty of ways in which gay men get homophobic. Including ones who are subsequently outed by Tatchell, but also ones who are already out.<br /><br />Black people can obviously be racist and women can obviously be misogynist and so on and so forth.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-56261287035583248152009-08-31T11:30:58.896+01:002009-08-31T11:30:58.896+01:00Anonymous 4:17 shows a total lack of understanding...Anonymous 4:17 shows a total lack of understanding re election expenses and even if Harriet Harman were to grant Alex's request of 11 months ago o=f legalise cocaine inthe constituency if he wins Mr Monkee doesn't have huge prospects in this particular seat.<br /><br />It would be a good idea to move him to a winnable seat IMO ...<br /><br />On the spoof itself. It was so bleeding obvious that any offence should be confined to Grayling and to the fools who repeated it as stone fact.<br /><br />I'm not about to apologise for knowingly propagating this hilarious creativity and GSOH.Chris Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15679067503215414300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-785294265514603222009-08-31T11:22:11.781+01:002009-08-31T11:22:11.781+01:00If the infantile Alex Hilton is typical of the new...If the infantile Alex Hilton is typical of the new candidates Labour are going to field at the next election then they are in a worse state that even I thought.Blue Warriornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-82687938740303640582009-08-31T11:06:19.754+01:002009-08-31T11:06:19.754+01:00A couple of years ago a Guardian journalist fronte...A couple of years ago a Guardian journalist fronted for a hoax "global warming sceptic" scientific paper. By his own admission the conspirators spent 4 days putting it together. I was 1 of 4 bloggers who, for a few hours, was tasken in by it but sceptical scientists uniformly spotted it straight away. One of the advantages of being sceptical.<br /><br />When I found out I stated that I thought the fact of it being a hoax massively increased the chances of the BBC reporting it & indeed they did not fail to live down to my expectations. There has been no suggestion by anybody on the "left"/warming alarmist/politically correct that such hoaxes, even in matters of science, are in any way reprehensible. Any criticism Alex gets from that side is clearly personal rather than principled.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-47005808718836559532009-08-31T09:56:48.693+01:002009-08-31T09:56:48.693+01:00It's the banner waving party politics, from bo...It's the banner waving party politics, from both sides I should add, that have got this country into the state it is today.<br />Allowing another extreme party to hijack the flag all our politicians should unite under.Barnacle Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17257546424880537005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-2534397047951288982009-08-31T09:46:24.633+01:002009-08-31T09:46:24.633+01:00It's amusing how the press seem to focus their...It's amusing how the press seem to focus their attention on Conservative 'renegade' PPC who might rock the boat, when Labour already have someone mouthing off at any opportunity and getting away with it time and time again.<br /><br />Like you said, if a Conservative PPC had been caught making up news to spite an opponent, the BBC would have hounded them to resign.Letters From A Toryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14612766550608940053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-45596605669332925322009-08-31T09:19:47.847+01:002009-08-31T09:19:47.847+01:00Yes Alex you should stop it now - leave all the ch...Yes Alex you should stop it now - leave all the childish stuff to the Tory boy bloggers.<br /><br />Re the point raised by Luke Akehurst about spending by PPCs not counting to candidates individual expenditure limits until the lection is called he is absolutely right. However, expenditure by a party's accounting units does count towards its national expenditure limits in the 12 months prior to a General Election (or a European election), i.e now, if it is promoting a particular party or attacking one of its rivals. One trusts that the Tories are recording all such expenditure diligently - since all the expenditure has to be audited and every single invoice will be made publicly available.tory boys never grow uphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11172736984147732661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-50413431340947320142009-08-31T08:36:28.583+01:002009-08-31T08:36:28.583+01:00Fair play to him - Kensington & Chelsea!!! It ...Fair play to him - Kensington & Chelsea!!! It wasn't his fault that people are suckers, didn't do their research and that EVERYONE is just soooo bloody angry that fatigue has set in. On the grand scale of what to have for breakfast, it's a storm in a teacup - and, let's face it - if I was tribal Labour, it may be possible that i'd despise Brown more as there'd be no hope (doubtful tho)<br /><br /> Homophobic Iain? How rude!Dick the Prickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02683095612320513712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-80757651456302061012009-08-31T07:33:22.206+01:002009-08-31T07:33:22.206+01:00Politics does seem to attract attention seeking lo...Politics does seem to attract attention seeking loose cannons, don't you think?<br /><br />Thankfully this chap Hilton is only a candidate, his moment of glory may be past already.True Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16296161522047947133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-77281184733821436852009-08-31T07:13:33.822+01:002009-08-31T07:13:33.822+01:00Thought it was vaguely amusing as a prank - have t...Thought it was vaguely amusing as a prank - have to disagree with everyone shouting 'smear! smear!' - the Midsomer Murders comparison gave me pause to smile for a moment. I think, per capita, they must have more crime than ANYwhere.<br /><br />As for his behaviour in terms of being a PPC, he should probably cut it out. As someone else here commented, it does no good to alienate the press, and it doesn't really present a particularly grown-up image. You can bet it will come back out come the election...Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06677238644602042467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-47572541457893324752009-08-31T03:22:35.169+01:002009-08-31T03:22:35.169+01:00@Osama
There's a big difference in respectabi...@Osama<br /><br />There's a big difference in respectability between thinking independently and pissing off a major US city. <br /><br />Over here cities and states cannot run deficits. If revenues drop they have to introduce cuts or raise taxes immediately. <br /><br />I don't think the Mayor of Baltimore is looking too kindly at having to pass on the cost of Hilton's stupid prank onto their taxpayers. Lawasuit and large legal bill awaits methinks.Dual Citizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05688872768973943522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-42827932941491135612009-08-31T01:37:09.238+01:002009-08-31T01:37:09.238+01:00Osama, so basically you agree with me and then try...Osama, so basically you agree with me and then try to disagree. unbelievable.<br /><br />I too believe candidates should be able to think independently. They do not have to be party slaves. But they do owe some modicum of loyalty to the party under whose banner they stand. I can't see how anyone can disagree with that.Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-20133346331450186032009-08-31T01:33:01.812+01:002009-08-31T01:33:01.812+01:00My first reaction when I heard his little spoof wa...My first reaction when I heard his little spoof was one of amusement. Now I know that he is a parliamentary candidate it is one of "he should grow up". For some reason I feel our parliamentary representatives should display the appropriate gravitas.<br /><br />Your reaction seems to pander to everything that electors dislike about the party system. It seems to want everyone to subordinate their personal views to those of the party apparatchiks. I really couldn't care less about Liebor's problems but thank heavens for independent thinking representatives like Dan Hannan who don't fear to speak their minds.Osama the Nazarenenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-69613672805670493262009-08-31T01:09:28.891+01:002009-08-31T01:09:28.891+01:00I thrive on hyperactivity!I thrive on hyperactivity!Iain Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-32044120415936942652009-08-30T23:40:16.459+01:002009-08-30T23:40:16.459+01:00Iain,
Apologies for going off topic but
I would...Iain,<br /><br />Apologies for going off topic but <br /><br />I would just love to know how you manage to go on 11.30pm and then get up so early to blog/work/tv appearances.. how you have not died of exchaustion yet is beyond me.DMCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-56360881708449881942009-08-30T23:20:39.404+01:002009-08-30T23:20:39.404+01:00"When you become a party candidate you have t..."When you become a party candidate you have to recognise that you owe your Party some loyalty."<br /><br />That's the fundamental problem in a nutshell. Your Party; not your constituency, not your principles.<br /><br />Such "Respectability" is a false front, a lie people tell to get selected and to gain advancement. Some lying is of course necessary in life as much as in politics, but it becomes a habit. The culture of perfection that makes any error unacceptable soon turns into risk-averse paralysis; a stilted disconnection with humanity, a fatal tendency to conceal rather than to correct.<br /><br />That any politician can take such a minor faux-pas seriously shows once again their fundamental lack of understanding of how the voters feel. When politicians do things so incredibly, mind-blowingly <i>stupid</i> as to vote themselves expense allowance rises in the middle of the biggest expense scandal of the decade, one both Parties must have known about, and genuinely see nothing wrong with that, but then to get all wound up over spreading some silly internet joke as not the sort of behaviour we expect of a Parliamentary candidate... Well, it's just beyond words.<br /><br />I vote for a bit less Party loyalty, and a bit more basic honesty and good humour. We don't want yet another batch of cowed "yes"-men, thanks.In Contempt of Parliamentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-33664420901182696482009-08-30T23:16:26.420+01:002009-08-30T23:16:26.420+01:00Re. the meaning of homophobia:
the homo- part is ...Re. the meaning of homophobia:<br /><br />the homo- part is from the Greek <i>homos</i> (the first vowel is short) meaning "the same". It is the same root as that of homeopathy or homogenous.<br /><br />Some people assume, completely incorrectly, that the homo- part is from the Latin <i>homo</i> ("man" or, more generally, "human"). It is not.<br /><br />In Greek, homophobia literally means "fear of sameness" or "fear of that which is the same as you". Effectively, this is what happens when people who've never studied Greek start indulging their love for neologisms - you end up with gibberish words that make no sense being parroted by a public that's too stupid to analyse their underlying meaning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-36144862310088318352009-08-30T22:35:33.009+01:002009-08-30T22:35:33.009+01:00Anonymous 7.19, Iain Dale is hardly in the closet!...Anonymous 7.19, Iain Dale is hardly in the closet!!!Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15252054403352395221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-43151360710100246712009-08-30T22:29:10.455+01:002009-08-30T22:29:10.455+01:00@Stronghold Barricades
"Is Chelsea and Fulha...@Stronghold Barricades<br /><br />"Is Chelsea and Fulham a safe seat?"<br /><br />New seat, but very safe.<br />Notional Tory majority of 28% in 2005.<br /><br />(Electoral Calulus)Dual Citizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05688872768973943522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-61774085337292932592009-08-30T22:21:30.917+01:002009-08-30T22:21:30.917+01:00John M. Euthanisia Ward must be about the most bor...John M. Euthanisia Ward must be about the most boring and ponderous contributor to your blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-65558493428206334722009-08-30T22:03:12.540+01:002009-08-30T22:03:12.540+01:00I personally can't stand him and frankly he ha...I personally can't stand him and frankly he has not made a very good name for his self. Ofcourse, I have not met him so this is only from this medium. I think Greg Hands will swoop the victory quite easily.Einy Shahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04338118115297504799noreply@blogger.com