tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post5038285772471845826..comments2024-03-04T17:54:32.559+00:00Comments on Iain Dale's Diary: Al Gore Can Kiss My ....Iain Dalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03270146219458384372noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-81273850872984621442007-02-28T12:28:00.000+00:002007-02-28T12:28:00.000+00:00Oh Ian. "So eloquent, and so concise". It was a jo...Oh Ian. "So eloquent, and so concise". It was a joke, not a coherent argument that the scientific concensus on global warming is wrong.<BR/>You're getting as bizarre as Mel Phillips on this one. Perhaps we should come up with a name for right wingers who label winter as "evidence" there's no such thing as climate change... perhaps "Earthbats" ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-92136749703682611732007-02-28T11:25:00.000+00:002007-02-28T11:25:00.000+00:00Production emissions, then, become part of the que...Production emissions, then, become part of the question of how far you have to drive to do better than an equivalent conventionally-engined car.<BR/><BR/>The point about diessl restrictions in CA is that the Oscars took place in CA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-27708126854055030352007-02-28T00:55:00.000+00:002007-02-28T00:55:00.000+00:00Well if you include production emissions I believe...Well if you include production emissions I believe that the Prius is only beaten by supercars in carbon output; it's up there with the Hummer H2. I'm not a big fan of carbon as an environmental indicator, but many are, especially Gore.<BR/><BR/>There is some very clean diesel technlogy noow, and in any case for people who really believe the man-made global warming myth surely the first campaign in California is to allow diesel cars - stop protecting the local environmnet at the expense of the global environment. The whole issue is the hypocrisy of current campaigns. It is therefore fair to compare the hybrids with a diesel. Also to compare their hybrid limos with, say, a petrol <I>or</I> diesel Jag they could perfectly well have arrived in!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88219867051765411292007-02-28T00:23:00.000+00:002007-02-28T00:23:00.000+00:00I don't know the truth about the Gore house thing,...I don't know the truth about the Gore house thing, but I do know that Drudge, who has been leading the 'Gore hypocrisy/lunacy' charge for ages, can't, in general, be trusted to be honest or admit mistakes. Anyhow, Gore is having a go back at Drudge: http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/26/gore-responds-to-drudge/<BR/><BR/>No idea what the actual facts are, myself. Neither Drudge and his ilk, nor Gore and his supporters, have much motive to tell the truth about Gore's carbon footprint unless it suits them.<BR/><BR/>Richard Dale: the comparison in this case would be between a petrol engined car and a hybrid. As I understand it, the bigger issue is whether the production of hybrids has a bigger carbon footprint than the savings from using them, ie, what mileage you have to drive before you get better than even. I believe that Caliifornia has some pollution restrictions on diesel-engined vehicles which tend to reduce the fuel economy, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-4451325184931061602007-02-28T00:17:00.000+00:002007-02-28T00:17:00.000+00:00Just imagine how much jet fuel Al Gore needs to fl...Just imagine how much jet fuel Al Gore needs to fly his super fat butt all over the planet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-91764917726832527112007-02-27T22:53:00.000+00:002007-02-27T22:53:00.000+00:00Al Gore is a dork. The inconvenient truth about h...Al Gore is a dork. The inconvenient truth about his film is that it's not truth.Joey Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06878070229092127628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-85117237995279361112007-02-27T19:55:00.000+00:002007-02-27T19:55:00.000+00:00Hybrids don't make that much difference. Jeremy Cl...Hybrids don't make that much difference. Jeremy Clarkson managed 48 mpg in a Prius, IIRC, and I used to get better out of an old Rover diesel. In fact if whole life environmental impact including build costs are taken into account then the Toyota is actually less environmetally friendly than many 4x4s.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-67680249975858452402007-02-27T19:36:00.000+00:002007-02-27T19:36:00.000+00:00The limos, I believe, were 'green'. Which I guess ...The limos, I believe, were 'green'. Which I guess just means that they were hybrids.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-45984961229277225372007-02-27T17:17:00.000+00:002007-02-27T17:17:00.000+00:00"Well Al Gore can kiss my frozen ass.""you may be ..."Well Al Gore can kiss my frozen ass.""<BR/><BR/>you may be able to convert him politically, Iain, I am not too sure about altering his sexual proclivities!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-61529534442580592242007-02-27T17:10:00.000+00:002007-02-27T17:10:00.000+00:00Peak oil has been put back by another couple of ge...Peak oil has been put back by another couple of generations, at least, by the fact that the Israelis have developer technology to mkae shale oil useable as $17 a barrel.<BR/><BR/>This is the umpteenth time it has ben put back by technological improvement since it was first predicted, in the 1850s, that oil would disappear when all the whales had been hunted.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-39555279883121273822007-02-27T16:55:00.000+00:002007-02-27T16:55:00.000+00:00And simply consider all that faux hot air being em...And simply consider all that faux hot air being eminating by the gobs of those so-called stars surely that is harming the enviroment as well.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01521305786798062391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-67896784873533926902007-02-27T16:39:00.000+00:002007-02-27T16:39:00.000+00:00Looking for further info I found a blog post (wizb...Looking for further info I found a blog post (wizbangblog.com look for 26 February). Apparently if we want to reduce carbon footprints we should follow Bush rather than Gore.<BR/><BR/>Interesting to note that the President's private residence is less than twice the size of an average US home (4000 sq ft compared to 2300 sq ft). Most importantly of course it is about as environmentally sound as it could be, using many different criteria not just the ridiculous obsession with carbon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-67860619951575860092007-02-27T16:08:00.000+00:002007-02-27T16:08:00.000+00:00SabretacheYou're still wrong about the meaning of ...<B>Sabretache</B><BR/><BR/>You're still wrong about the meaning of hypocrisy. Since we are talking about hypocrisy, your comment is irrelevant to the discussion! Please look the word up, it's a fairly simple one really.<BR/><BR/><B>jafo</B><BR/><BR/>Not to mention the fuel used to carry 3 first-class seats.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-34921309303433971012007-02-27T15:04:00.000+00:002007-02-27T15:04:00.000+00:00"But you can bet your sweet life the US (or anyone..."But you can bet your sweet life the US (or anyone else for that matter) will not be reigning in the excesses of its 'happy-motoring', hydro-carbon based, suburban lifestyle any time soon."<BR/><BR/>Correct, we won't. As well as the oil is there we might as well enjoy it while we can.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-7524158090585036322007-02-27T14:10:00.000+00:002007-02-27T14:10:00.000+00:00No shortage of petrobucks for the astroturfing fra...No shortage of petrobucks for the astroturfing fraternity by the look of it. You've made a Faustian pact my friends!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-63650909247130444302007-02-27T14:04:00.000+00:002007-02-27T14:04:00.000+00:00Johnathan.Do a little, rudimentary research on 'Pe...Johnathan.<BR/><BR/>Do a little, rudimentary research on 'Peak Oil'. Then maybe you'll understand my point rather than your false interpretation of it. If resources were infinite, you'd have a point. As it is North Sea Oil, for example, will be exhausted in 10-15 years time and global oil production will be well past it's peak. In other words, it is simply not possible for the rest of the world to achieve current US levels of oil consumption. But you can bet your sweet life the US (or anyone else for that matter) will not be reigning in the excesses of its 'happy-motoring', hydro-carbon based, suburban lifestyle any time soon . That's why the ME is important to them (and us) - and that's where the hypocrisy lies.<BR/><BR/>In fact it is the impending peak in global oil production that is the real epoch-changing issue right now - NOT global warming. Nobody talks about it but, at Privy Council level (and its equivalent in the US and elsewhere) foreign policy and geo-political aims are totally dominated by it.Sabretachehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11652655872639394084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-44394391860071719102007-02-27T13:31:00.000+00:002007-02-27T13:31:00.000+00:00"How about US hypocrisy? - They comprise 5% of the..."How about US hypocrisy? - They comprise 5% of the worlds population and use over 25% of its oil (70% of it imported) - and, of course 'The US way of life is non-negotiable'.'<BR/><BR/>The reasoning of this commenter is wrong. The US uses so much oil, even though it accounts for 5% of the world's headcount, because it is so much richer than most other nations. As China, India, Brazil, etc, get richer, their share of energy consumption will rise, and that of the US will drop. The US does not need to give up anything for this simple mathematical fact to come through.<BR/><BR/>Talking about how wrong it is for the US to use x or y percent of a resource is utterly meaningless without taking account of the economic dynamics that brought that state about in the first place, such as markets, stable property rights - in short, capitalism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-62905974996549065462007-02-27T12:25:00.000+00:002007-02-27T12:25:00.000+00:00Al Gore is possibly the dullest man on the planet,...Al Gore is possibly the dullest man on the planet, he is a major source of "Global Boring" a new threat to the mental health of mankind.. We do need to take action to stop him now before the effects are irreversible and every country becomes Sweden, and every city is Brussels. The huge fees he commands are to pay the Boring tax imposed on Gore to reduce his travel rate, and help control Global Boring. Its good to see the US Government acting on this one....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-76534942082611874462007-02-27T12:21:00.000+00:002007-02-27T12:21:00.000+00:00Perception and reality in America is wider than th...Perception and reality in America is wider than the Grand Canyon.Wrinkled Weaselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291551539649118631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-37156130971084942612007-02-27T11:13:00.000+00:002007-02-27T11:13:00.000+00:00Ooh..Mr Dale even a sanctimonious boring old curmu...Ooh..Mr Dale even a sanctimonious boring old curmudgeonly git like me has to laugh at this. Hope you have packed an extra pair of Helly Hansen long johns and some Damart pants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-24503858253646348402007-02-27T10:44:00.000+00:002007-02-27T10:44:00.000+00:00I don't know how true this is, but recently I read...I don't know how true this is, but recently I read in the newspapers that a "green" charity invited Al Gore to come to London to speak at their seminar on global warming, but he wanted them to provide him with THREE first class air tickets AND pay a considerable sum for his valuable time, a cost of approx £85,000 for the charity. The charity couldn't afford it - he didn't come. <BR/><BR/>Obviously his desire to spread his message has a hefty price tag attached!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-20232792090137392182007-02-27T10:42:00.000+00:002007-02-27T10:42:00.000+00:00"How about US hypocrisy? - They comprise 5% of the..."How about US hypocrisy? - They comprise 5% of the worlds population and use over 25% of its oil (70% of it imported) - and, of course 'The US way of life is non-negotiable'."<BR/><BR/>Damn right it isn't. You can hardly expect them to give up wealth and freedom that they have earnt predominantly through innovation and trade. I for one will certainly not vote for any British Government that wants to confiscate half my wealth and send it to be squandered in Africa.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-21640360822099220682007-02-27T10:41:00.000+00:002007-02-27T10:41:00.000+00:00If you instinctively dislike An Inconvenient Truth...If you instinctively dislike <I>An Inconvenient Truth</I> I STRONGLY recomomend that you take a look at <A HREF="http://www.mineyourownbusiness.org" REL="nofollow">Mine Your Own Business</A>. It's a documentary which looks at the dark side of environmentalism as it tries to stop poor countries developing.Henry Whitmarshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01828633898052459961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-88982074563891866542007-02-27T10:32:00.000+00:002007-02-27T10:32:00.000+00:00SabretacheYou might like to look up the definition...Sabretache<BR/><BR/>You might like to look up the definition of "hypocrisy". It actually has a defined meaningl you can't just make one up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6214838.post-33525328664805952512007-02-27T09:40:00.000+00:002007-02-27T09:40:00.000+00:00Me thinks you hath been drinking too much from the...Me thinks you hath been drinking too much from the fountain of Neo-Conservatism since landing upon those foreign shores Iain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com